30-30 and the lee fcd....

[mike in co]

ok new to 30-30 and bought the lee fcd....was that a mistake or not ?
any issues with it resizing boolits while crimping ?
(i can always trim all to length and then just crimp in a seating die in a seperate operation)

thanks
mike in co

[Larry Gibson]

Mike

I use the LFC die with my 311041, 311291 and the 150 WFN GB bullets in my two 30-30s. Works fine and both bullets have a larger crimp groove so there is no sizing of the bullets during crimping. I load a lot of them on the Dillon 550 and use the LFC die in station 4.

Larry Gibson

[mike in co]

thanks larry....dont think i will shoot enough to set it up for the dillon.....just a total of 50 rds or so for some plinking....with the 311407 group buy

mike in co

[dragonrider]

There is no sizing issue with the rifle FCD's.

[kbstenberg]

Has anyone checked what the bullets are sized down to with the LFCR
I am having prob. with my 30/30 and i am just starting to figure out what i have to do to make it useable.
Kevin

[Larry Gibson]

thanks larry....dont think i will shoot enough to set it up for the dillon.....just a total of 50 rds or so for some plinking....with the 311407 group buy

mike in co

Mike

You mean your 30-30 ain't belt fed:bigsmyl2:

Larry Gibson

[Jon K]

Kevin,

the FCD is usually not an issue. Boolit design and fit is critical.

Jon

[kbstenberg]

I'm finding out how tight the throat on my 94 is.
The barrel slugs out at .3085. The outside dia. of a fired case measures .330.
I have been sizing my boolits to .309. I cant use winchester brass because the necks are too thick at .011. I can only use Rem P. at .009 even then my loaded rounds measure .328 to .329 in the neck
Heck the gun is only 60+ years old an probably only shot 6 boxes of shells.
Kevin

[mike in co]

Mike

You mean your 30-30 ain't belt fed:bigsmyl2:

Larry Gibson

you mean pulling the next round from a ( cartridge) belt ?

i'm gonna fireform some brass without measring my bbl.......just plink some loads down range and then do some load development with the once formed cases neck sized...hopefully...if that does not work i will go for min case sizing for function.
with the gb 311407 i'm right at 2.535 with the boolit kissing the lands.

mike in co

[Jon K]

[QUOTE=kbstenberg;1000252]I'm finding out how tight the throat on my 94 is.
The barrel slugs out at .3085. The outside dia. of a fired case measures .330.
I have been sizing my boolits to .309. I cant use winchester brass because the necks are too thick at .011. I can only use Rem P. at .009 even then my loaded rounds measure .328 to .329 in the bneck

Kevin,
Now measure the bore diameter....looks like it will be .2995-.300". Measure your boolit and see if the bore rider section(nose) is not too big for the bore, cause it may hurt accuracy.

Jon

[Larry Gibson]

mike in co

you mean pulling the next round from a ( cartridge) belt ?

That works for me;-)

Neither of my M94s or my Contender Carbine barrel will take bullets over .311 or with a nose over .300 so I just pay head to those, crimp in the crimp groove and let the accuracy be what it is (pretty darn good at that!). With the 311407 you don't have the nose problem and can reach the leade by crimping in a required groove. Are you lubing all the grooves?

Larry Gibson

[mike in co]

apache blue in all three gooves and crimping in the crimp groove..

[miestro_jerry]

I use the Ranch Dog bullets that I cast for my 30-30 Marlin 336 and my Contender Super 14. They are much more accurate for my shooting.

Jerry

[jlchucker]

There is no sizing issue with the rifle FCD's.

Absolutely right. I wish that Lee made the 38 Spl and/or 357 mag the same way, for those of us that shoot those calibers out of leverguns.

[Larry Gibson]

apache blue in all three gooves and crimping in the crimp groove..

Sounds good to me, let us know how she shoots.

Larry Gibson

[higgins]

When I started loading cast in .30/30, one of the mistakes I made that caused difficult chambering was belling the mouth of the case too much with the M-die. I didn't have a good micrometer at the time, but I suspect the FCD would crimp the mouth of the case OK, but there would still be a partially-crimped area below the fully crimped case mouth. Bell the case just enough to start the bullet; on my setup, that's belling it enough to let the gas check enter the case mouth.