soy wax for bullet lube?? can i use it

[whitetailsniper]

hello
my wife makes candles,soy to be exact,,she has over 50 lbs of it in flakes,,..can i use this for a bullet lube? id like a simple recipe that will work in rifles,and handguns. percentage of this and that dont help, i need to know what else ill have to use to mix in with it,,and how much,,1/2 cup of this,or tablespoons of that would make it easyier. anybody?? help,, thank you kindly. she said if it will stop me from paying over 4;00 per stick of spg shes ok with it. so all you homemade fellas give a fellow shooter a hand and help me out here,i need something simple yet will work for my sons rifle,and my handguns.

[geargnasher]

First off, I read your post three times and I can't tell for sure you're only talking about a lube for Holy Black or if it will be used for smokeless, too. I'm not much help with your question, but have wondered the same thing with regard to soy wax as a base for smokeless lube. One of our mods, WilJen IIRC, was going to do some experimenting with soy late last year but I'm not sure he found the time to mess with it.

Somebody will weigh in......

Gear

[whitetailsniper]

hi am planning on using her soy wax to make lube for smokless powder cast bullets. ben was nice enough to give me some data on how to make, going to get the stuff this wk,and start trying to make it, i have been using my supply of spf for all my guns,as i was paying 2.00 per stick,my source is gone,and dried up i guess,so i have to do something,and i refuse to pay 5.00 per stick. thats just silly.

[crabo]

You can buy Lar's, at the bottom of the page, for less than what you were paying for the SPG and have a better lube for smokeless.

[sagacious]

Looks like you have a recipe.

Yes, soy wax works fine for a lube base. Soy wax is hydrogenated soy oil. Melts easily and at low temp. Smokes less than paraffin. Easy to work with. Harden with carnauba if needed, as when used as a base it makes a fairly soft lube that does not require heating to flow in a lubrisizer. I like a softer lube anyway.

I've been using a homemade soy-based lube for both rifle and pistol bullets. I haven't loaded it past 2200fps, but so far it works great. I've been using it for several years now. No complaints about it at all. Good luck.

[geargnasher]

See? I knew someone here had worked it out with soy, all you had to do was ask!

Gear

[JSH]

Will the soy leave a "tar" or "asphalt" residue? I am curious as there are a lot of grades of the stuff.
My FWFL is working to my expectations as always. I just like to keep my options open, for future use.
jeff

[sagacious]

No "tar" residue. Soy wax is hydrogenated soy oil, same as Crisco is partially-hydrogenated soy and cottonseed oil.

[wiljen]

I made a version of felix lube with soy wax that worked just fine. It is messy however.

[6bg6ga]

So to ask a stupid question here...:smile: are you guys using straight soy flakes melted down for lube or are you mixing something else into the mix?:lovebooli

[Shiloh]

Can't see why it wouldn't work. Make up a batch and post the results. What are the other ingredients??

Shiloh

[Ben]

I bought this Soy Wax a few months ago( see photo below ) for $2.00 a block ( and no...I'm not selling any of it right now ).

I've already made bullet lube with it using the " Ben's Lube " recipe :

50% beeswax
30% Red, Tacky Lucas High Temp Grease
10% Johnson's Paste Wax
5% Dexron II Trans. Fluid
5% STP

Those are approximations, you may have to adjust the percentages a little to suit your own needs, some prefer a harder lube, some like a lube that is softer.

Here is the thread that I posted some time back if you'd like to look at it :

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=81031

I really can't tell any difference in accuracy or performance in my lube recipes .....soywax vs. beeswax. I've fired the " new soy based lube " in .30 cal. rifle and .35 cal. rifle in the 2,000 fps zone with great performance from the lube. Zero leading, fine accuracy.

When you compare the cost of this wax vs. the current cost of beeswax, it is hard not to use this in your lube.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/Beeswax/DSCN0479.jpg

If you follow the link above and use those ingredients ( in those ratios ), this is what the lube looks like after it has cooled and has been cut into strips for storage in heavy clear poly reseal bags.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/PICT0002-29.jpg

[Elkins45]

I made a soy wax-based lube back in the spring, but I haven't tried it out yet. I added a couple of green crayons just so I could label it Soylent Green :D

[6bg6ga]

I read thru this thread and I and wondering if a 50/50 mix of beeswax and soy wax would work for lube in my handguns mainly 45acp. I would like a bullet lube that will harden up unlike the 50/50 beeswax/ Alox that I have been using. I have heaters on both lubesizers so heat isn't a problem. Any help would be appreciated and please do not tell me to purchase commercially made lube.

[Nobade]

I have been using Dick Dastardly's "pearl lube" mix for some time now with black powder ammo. Soy flakes, toilet bowl ring, and Crisco in equal parts. I add a touch of beeswax to harden it slightly for warm weather and it works quite well. Never tried it with smokeless though, might have to do that in the future...

-Nobade