CZ - 75 Infatuation

[earlytom]

Haven't shot in years, 4 or 5. Gave all my guns to family members. Recently at a gun show and the urge hit me. Like seeing an old flame... I was at a CZ booth and picked up CZ 75BD 40 S&W. It felt a lot like my old Browning 9mm only better.

Long and short, I bought one used (slightly) for a good diccount and took my new baby out for a spin. I usually shot a pistol left handed but shot well right handed too. I thought I would put her to a good test measured out 80 feet and shot right handed.

1st shot was 1 3/8" low left...Infatuation has struck!

Now I have to get reload gear, the 22 conversion, one in a 9mm, now I've bought a shot gun probably start shooting skeet and trap again...

That ten dollar gun show ticket sure was expensive...

earlytom

[Jack Stanley]

C'mon Tom , admit it ........... you're happy to be shooting again ain'tcha :D


Jack

[9.3X62AL]

A CZ-75B in 40 S&W was instant infatuation here, too. A bonus for this pistol is that it might be one of the lead-friendliest 40 S&W pistols available, owing to its 1-16" rifling twist rate.

Subjectively, it is a lot like a Browning HP in the hand.

[johnly]

CZ 75s and its clones are my favorite centerfire pistols. I even went so far as fitting a comped 9mm barrel to 40 slide and punched it out to 357 SIG. 124 grain bullets at 1400 fps and 1.5" groups at 50 yards with AA9C and Lil'Gun. [smilie=w:

John

[Buckshot]

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............I bought this Witness in 38 Super (blue slide) and then later bought the 45 ACP conversion (10 rnd magazines). The mags in 38 Super hold 18 but I only load 16 as the last 2 are real killers to fit. I haven't done a whole lot of experimenting with the 45 version yet, but the 38 Super (slugs sized to .357") is excruciatingly accurate.

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It even feeds SWC's just fine. This is the RCBS 38-162 SWC-GC and 7.4grs surplus WC820 ball. If you're gonna loade'em hot you need the Wollf 22 & 24 lb springs!

..............Buckshot

[Bret4207]

Yupper! Bought the wife a Witness in 40SW, love it!

[mike in co]

lol...you guys are all late but at least your eyes are open.

cz's have a very natural point of aim for me..fit my hand well and in an 85(ambi controls) i'm in heaven.

the 10mm i just bought is an eaa witness. this is a 75 on steroids. they change the profile of the slide and bulk the frame to feed 15 rd mags.

one cz 82, three cz83's, three 75's, 2 85's, a 97, witness's in 9, 40( older small frame) and the new 10mm.


nawwwww these guns suck..........LOL


mike in co

[StarMetal]

Now what you need for those CZ's is a 30 Luger conversion. [smilie=s:

[Cactus Farmer]

Mike in Co,
Now you need a Model 24 in 380. Mine is just prewar made in 1937. Rotary locking barrel and a better hand fit is hard to find. Shoots very well with J words and cast. It's my car gun when I'm traveling light. The Nazis made a few during the war but not nearly as nicely finished.

[Mk42gunner]

I like the CZ-75 and its Italian cousins. If I ever buy another 9mm or .40 S&W with my own money, odds are that is what it will be.

Robert

[mike in co]

Mike in Co,
Now you need a Model 24 in 380. Mine is just prewar made in 1937. Rotary locking barrel and a better hand fit is hard to find. Shoots very well with J words and cast. It's my car gun when I'm traveling light. The Nazis made a few during the war but not nearly as nicely finished.

actually i have passed on several early models.

i use a p64 as a travel gun..amd have an un-id'd 32 auto out of spain that is a nice pocket pistol.


ohhh and the fi ind original colt pony......that they backed out of.
a 380 size 1911......

i had some 52's and 50's....some day maybe again.


mike in co

[Shepherd2]

My CZ75 BD in 9mm is my favorite handgun. I have other 9mms but they don't get shot much. I've put 30,000+ rounds through mine so far. Cast, of course. The only breakage I've had is a slide stop at about 20,000 rounds.

I bought it because it felt so good in my hand and pointed so well. I've been shooting it in IDPA for about 10 years now.

[Combat Diver]

I've owned a bunch of CZ pistols over the years. Used to pick them up new and cheap in Germany in the late 80s.
cz27 in .32
cz50 in .32 (4ea)
cz75 in 9mm (4 ea, thou had dozens in Iraq)
cz85 in 9mm
cz83 in .380

All mine were built before 1988 however.

CD

[robertbank]

CZ 85 Combat
CZ SP-01 with Night Sights
CZ SP-01 Shadow
CZ 75D Compact PCR
CZ 97B .45acp
Tanfoglio "L" Model with 9MM & .40S&W tops

Did I say I like CZ's. Accurate beyond reason and super reliable, tight and well made. The Shadow is the winningest pistol in IPSC Production right now.

I primarily shoot lead bullets (124 gr & 156 gr) along with plated 124's and FMJ 124. Factory ammo like Win White Box or their HP ammo feeds like poop through a goose.

You buy one CZ and they are like rabbits they just multiply.

Take Care

Bob

[Crash_Corrigan]

One day my gunnie at his shop stuck a 10 MM EAA Witness pistol into my hand.

It is a huge hunk of metal. But it felt right. The trigger was glorious. I have never felt a better trigger on a pistol in my life. It was light and crisp with almost no overtravel at all. He had a few in 10 MM and 38 Super.

Neither calibre trips my trigger and I asked him to get me one in 9 MM. It took six months but one day I get the phone call...."Your gun is here".

I run down there and snap it up. I already had a Browning Hi Power but it is almost too pretty to shoot. I took it home and lubed it up and to the range we went.

This is a EAA Witness Match Elite model with the two tone finish. All steel but the slide is Blued and the frame is Stainless Steel. I bought another 4 magazines that needed to be tweeked before they worked reliably.

This is one sweet pistol. 16 rd magazines and a wondeful trigger and an excellent set of adjustible sights. After I ran about 4 boxes of ammo thru it I cleaned it up and removed all the copper from the bore and tried some cast boolits.

They shot even better than the factory fodder. This is a heavy gun and the recoil is soaked up with the weight and the rubber grips. A CCW it is not but for target or home defense use or in a car it is a fine weapon.

I once ran 10 boxs of ammo thru it and it shot as well at the end as in the beginning. Cleaning is a breeze and I love the gun. It just seems to fit my hand really well and points very well and is accurate as can get 1/2" groups at 25 yds from a sandbag and two inches from 50 yds. At 100 yds the boolits really drop some but I still can get 7" groups at 100 yds from a sandbag.

It is a keeper.

[mike in co]

CZ 85 Combat
CZ SP-01 with Night Sights
CZ SP-01 Shadow
CZ 75D Compact PCR
CZ 97B .45acp
Tanfoglio "L" Model with 9MM & .40S&W tops

Did I say I like CZ's. Accurate beyond reason and super reliable, tight and well made. The Shadow is the winningest pistol in IPSC Production right now.

I primarily shoot lead bullets (124 gr & 156 gr) along with plated 124's and FMJ 124. Factory ammo like Win White Box or their HP ammo feeds like poop through a goose.

You buy one CZ and they are like rabbits they just multiply.

Take Care

Bob

so when are you going to get serious about these ??

(ps..the serial number on my 97b is under 500........)

[yarro]

My CZ75 with the cadet conversion is a tack driver. Too bad I let my dad borrow it. He said I can have it back in the will. Need to buy another one now. Won't find one as cheap as I offered a reasonable amount for a used one to a private party who had inherited it, and he accepted and said that he would give to my buddy who work with him. When it showed up, it had a cadet conversion with 4 mags and 5 9mm mags with it along with 2 holsters. I about fell over. I felt bad about it until I found out from my buddy that he thought I had paid too much and he had bragged to others at work about shafting me on the price.

-yarro

[mike in co]

Mike in Co,
Now you need a Model 24 in 380. Mine is just prewar made in 1937. Rotary locking barrel and a better hand fit is hard to find. Shoots very well with J words and cast. It's my car gun when I'm traveling light. The Nazis made a few during the war but not nearly as nicely finished.

well i have made some progress......i will trade a p64 for a cz70 today.......

he is getting the better deal as the p64 is full of wolff springs and 70's are nowhere near as nice a 64......but i get ato add to my collection.


mike in co

[bowfin]

Our household has 4 tanfoglios in .41 Action Express and two in .38 Super, plus an extra 9mm barrel. They all shoot well, and the Elite Match in .38 Super is fantastic.

I wouldn,t mind an EAA Hunter 6" barrel in 10mm...

[bowfin]

How did this thread survive in the factory rifles section?

[robertbank]

Mile an old thread but I picked up another 85 Combat over the summer. They do breed like rabbits as do M&P's I am finding out....

Take Care

Bob

[9.3X62AL]

I have yet to fire a S&W M&P. They feel good in the hand, for certain.

[robertbank]

Hi Al

IMHO it is a huge improvement over the Glock. I have two. The FS and the PRo 5" model. I have around 4K on the FS and have yet to have any FTF or FTE using factory and my own reloads. I have to say from a bench my CZ's are more accurate but for IDPA and combat accuracy the guns are certainly capable and far more accurate than i can hold. I just bought a PRO for IDPA SSP Division. My CZ 85 Combat or Shadow will still work for me in ESP.

I see S&W just won the contract for the Belgium Federal Police with their M&P right under the nose of Glock. I hope the RCMP get the pistol when we get around to ditching the 5946 the Force uses. The RCMP Emergency Response Team get the SIG 226 SRT as their standard issue gun. I had an opportunity to shoot one of their SIGs at the club and I wsn't impressed with the trigger but then I don't use a gun the same way the police are asked to. Too, the Canadian Army is putting out tenders to replace the Inglis Hi-Power. S&W will be in the hunt for that contract to be sure. The Conservative Gov't is about to start cutting expenses to balance the budget so replacing the Inglis might not happen soon.

Take Care

Bob

[PB234]

Next you will be trying CZ rifles. Very nice.

[seagiant]

Hi,
If you really want to turn the heat up try the CZ 97B!!!

[9.3X62AL]

I'll mention in passing--to keep the thread on topic--that I own 2 CZ rifles, and both are GREAT.

That done, back to Freq Drift Central. The CZ-97 is a heck of a pistol. Already having 2 large, heavy 45 ACPs on hand, the 97 isn't calling to me. But it's still a great pistol.

[ebner glocken]

CZs are great. Here's a pair of 97s. One is in bright blue and the other is in polycoat. BTW both of them will shoot tit for tat with the cold gold cup above. I'm afraid to say that the two CZs cost me almost as much as the colt.

Ebner

[mstarling]

Must admit to being a cheap fella ... I picked up two Tanfolio TZ75s in 40 S&W just as the importer was transiting to the new guys and the old stock was being fire saled. Got two 9mm complete top ends when Springfield stopped selling their P9s. Also bought a P9 World Cup in 9x21 at the same time ... cheap.

Along the line I did buy one very nice 9x21 race gun based on the TZ.

Latest project is putting a Briley 9x19 match bbl in the World Cup ... had it recontoured to fit the bushing in that pistol, shortened and threaded for a user serviceable oh can. Should be a hoot to shoot.

I really like the CZ75. Best buy in a reasonably priced auto pistol!

... oh yes ... I have two CZ rifles. One is a 9,3x62 550 American. Has gone to Africa and works wonderfully well on larger game and yet does not destroy too much meat on deer and piggies. The other is a CZ 550 Safari Mag in .416 Rigby. That one has been to Africa twice and has taken a Cape Buffalo!

Both are wonderful rifles that group are user friendly in the field.

Ain't no flies on the CZs!

[MtGun44]

Is it just me or is this pretty weird to be in the "Factory Rifles" section?

Bill