Interest in 9.3 mould

[BPCS]

Has there ever been any interest in a group buy of a 9.3 rifle bullet, about 250grains in a double cavity mould?

[9.3X62AL]

I don't recall seeing any "Group Buy" conversations regarding this caliber. Over the years, I'm not sure that 25 posters have even mentioned owning one of the 9.3 calibers.

Don't forget that sizing dies of .366"-.368" don't grow on trees, either.

[Nrut]

Has there ever been any interest in a group buy of a 9.3 rifle bullet, about 250grains in a double cavity mould?
I was just fire forming some 9.3 X 62 cases from 30-06 cases for low pressure cast boolits loads this afternoon.........Just got a CZ550FS a few weeks after Dan at MT. Molds quit taking orders till this fall....Anyway on 6/04/06 CaptDave posted on this board looking to stir up some interest on a 9.3 mold.....did'nt get to far unfortunately.......hope more interest perks up with your thread...

[StarMetal]

Deputy Al,

Those sizer dies you mentioned in the hard to get sizes grow on Buckshot Trees, not to be confused with Buckeye Trees. [smilie=1:

Joe

[onceabull]

BPCS: absent evidence/experience to the contrary I expect to be happy with NEI #174,once it works it way to the top of the buy list...might look over CBE's offerings,too... :roll: Onceabull

[Nrut]

BPCS: absent evidence/experience to the contrary I expect to be happy with NEI #174,once it works it way to the top of the buy list...might look over CBE's offerings,too... :roll: Onceabull
Onceabull....I have been looking at both of NEI's molds and CBE molds plus others......I'm thinking that a .366 copy of the RCBS .375 at around 270 grs. would be a good one to go with....what 9.3 are you shooting?.....a 9.3 X 57 would be almost perfect for cast bullets but I have never seen one for up north of the border....

[Frank46]

Nrut, I have a husquvarna 98 mauser in 9.3x57mm that is waiting for a bullet mold. There are a few others out there as well. If interested try sarco's web site as they have been selling them like hotcakes. Frank

[Nrut]

Nrut, I have a husquvarna 98 mauser in 9.3x57mm that is waiting for a bullet mold. There are a few others out there as well. If interested try sarco's web site as they have been selling them like hotcakes. Frank
Frank ....It would cost me around $335.00 to import a rifle not encluding the cost of the rifle.....I can see why they are selling like hot cakes they a very nice looking rifle.....I should'nt have looked at them!

[45 2.1]

Onceabull....I have been looking at both of NEI's molds and CBE molds plus others......I'm thinking that a .366 copy of the RCBS .375 at around 270 grs. would be a good one to go with....what 9.3 are you shooting?.....a 9.3 X 57 would be almost perfect for cast bullets but I have never seen one for up north of the border....

I've tried the RCBS 250 sized down to 0.367", the bearing surface is to long and shoves the gas check and groove down into the case too far. Deputy Al has a MM that does fit the cartridge very well.

[brayhaven]

An expedient for 9.3 bullets is to make an upsetting die to upset 35 cal bullets to 9.3. I know it's not casting :o) but works great. I couldn't find the lighter 9.3's that usually work better in the 9.3X72R . I made a die to upset Speer 180 gr 35 rem bullets to .366. Works great & very accurate in my drilling.
Greg

[dragonrider]

I also have a 9.3X57 Huskvarna. I got a mold from NEI, 4 cavity, two 240GRn and two 304 grn. Both are GC'ed. the larger do not shoot well from my rifle. The smaller do well but there is work to do with it.
Rapine has three 9.3 molds, 195, 200, and 250 grns. all are plain based. I am considering the 195 mostly because it is plain based and also it is $10.00 less than the 200grn.
I would be very interested in a group buy for this caliber, anything less than 250 grn.

[Nrut]

I've tried the RCBS 250 sized down to 0.367", the bearing surface is to long and shoves the gas check and groove down into the case too far. Deputy Al has a MM that does fit the cartridge very well.


Yes 45 2.1 I have been stalking Deputy Al's 9.3 adventure's.....he said the design was developed by Eirik on the Accuratereloading forum....have'nt seen the demensions yet after a search on that forum .....will PM Deputy Al or Eirik after I do a throat impression as it seems quite long... the Speer 270gr. bullet does'nt touch the lands seated to an OAL of 3.431 leaving the bullet only around .190 in the case neck....The Speer and Nosler manuals say the OAL should be 3.290......While looking at the RCBS 250/.375 I got the idea a short nosed long bodied bullet mite be the ticket(lube grooves would be exposed)......a throat impression will get me closer to what the rifle needs....thanks for the heads up on your experince with sizing down the RCBS 250/.375...was considering doing that also....I must admit designing a bullet to fit your rifle is all new to me and I appreciate what can be learned at this forum...oddfellow not withstanding (the devil made me do that Buckshot)
dragonrider...I did'nt think to check Rapine...I would like to load a 250-280gr GC cast bullet to around 2000-2200 for an open site hunting rifle.......that would shoot flat enough to just over 200 yds. to suit me....I would also go with a lighter bullet if thats what the group decides how ever.....
brayhaven....that sounds neat... can you use a regular reloading press or do you need a swaging press?....if so would you consider making a die for sale?....I have a bunch of Rem. 200gr. bulk .35cal bullets and a RCBS 213gr/.358 mold

[9.3X62AL]

I do like the work done by the 270 grain Mountain Mold castings in my CZ-550 Lux in 9.3 x 62. Nrut--I looked at a FS in a gunshop a couple years ago, those are gorgeous rifles.

Just some comments on stuff I've learned and read about the 9.3mm's in general and my rifle in particular........the twist rates in most rifles run about 1-14", actually 3 turns in a meter (about 1-13.3"). This is the twist in my rifle, and I have read (but not confirmed) that more recent CZ-550's are being made with 4 turns/meter twist to accomodate longer/heavier bullets--to 320 grains or so.

My rifle does fine work with 250 grain and 286 grain j-words and the 270 grain castings. Its throat form is fairly deep--about .300" from chamber mouth to rifling leade. Its rifling is tall--about .007", with 4-groove Mauser form. Throat is .367", and grooves are spot-on .366". I think a 250 grain boolit would be fine, and I could be talked into a plain-base 250 grainer, with a smaller meplat than the 70% nose on the MM castings. The MM's hang up once in a while during feeding. Gas-check .366" boolits use .375" checks. Nominal .358" boolits paper-patch nicely to 9.3mm using 9# bond/2 wraps.

It looks like there is more interest in the 9.3's than I first thought.

[9.3X62AL]

Nrut--

Our texts crossed in the mail, it seems. I used Eirik's design, and adapted it slightly to my rifle's dimensions. Using MM's software, I had the boolit shank portion a bit over .600", which enabled seating to the bottom of the case neck (.290") plus shank length to slightly engrave the leade upon chambering (.310"). Boolit length minus check is 1.010", weight is 269 grains in 92/6/2. Nose including front band (.100") is .500", giving tangent ogive length of .400" and 70% meplat of about .260".

[Nrut]

Deputy Al, would you post the demensions of your bullet?Regarding the CZFS I saw an article in the May 2004 issue of the Accurate Rilfe by Robert Boatman and have lusted after one since....Mine is not as highly figured as his but it is starting to come around with tru-oil and a lot of elbow grease....something I enjoy doing anyway.....Paper patching!.. must have my head up my fart hole as I have a RCBS 213gr/.358 mold and a friend has some paper as he has been playing with patching bullets for his 45-70.....think I'll try Verl Smiths idea of using computer stick on labels first.....

[45 2.1]

Deputy Al, would you post the demensions of your bullet?Regarding the CZFS I saw an article in the May 2004 issue of the Accurate Rilfe by Robert Boatman and have lusted after one since....Mine is not as highly figured as his but it is starting to come around with tru-oil and a lot of elbow grease....something I enjoy doing anyway.....Paper patching!.. must have my head up my fart hole as I have a RCBS 213gr/.358 mold and a friend has some paper as he has been playing with patching bullets for his 45-70.....think I'll try Verl Smiths idea of using computer stick on labels first.....

Any soft 0.358" pistol or rifle boolit with adequate bearing works fine for PP. Too time consuming to plink with though.

[Nrut]

Nrut--

Our texts crossed in the mail, it seems. I used Eirik's design, and adapted it slightly to my rifle's dimensions. Using MM's software, I had the boolit shank portion a bit over .600", which enabled seating to the bottom of the case neck (.290") plus shank length to slightly engrave the leade upon chambering (.310"). Boolit length minus check is 1.010", weight is 269 grains in 92/6/2. Nose including front band (.100") is .500", giving tangent ogive length of .400" and 70% meplat of about .260".
Thanks!... that'll get me to where I want to go...looking at Dan's site had to laugh at 475/480's thread Mold Order's....~~~Is it late summer Yet?~~~ I feel the same way...

[9.3X62AL]

My paper-patching involved Lyman #358430, a 195 grain RN. The critters shot well, but 45-2.1 makes a point about time-consuming......it is that.

NEI Handtools makes a few different 9.3 designs, too. If you like trivia pursuits, Lyman once made #366408, a plain based design that shot well in my rifle.

[BPCS]

I've been looking for that Lyman 366408 for the past 4 years. With the new Ruger #1 in 9.3x72, CZ's 9.3x62 and all the custom rifles being built in this caliber, perhaps Lyman could be induced to make this mould available again.

[9.3X62AL]

A re-dux of Lyman #366408 would be very nice indeed. Some samples sent by a board member shot VERY well in my CZ.

The 9.3 x 74R in the strong #1 action could really be hot-rodded, if its owner were so inclined. I would think that 9.3 x 64 or 375 H&H energies would be very safely achieved.

[AkMike]

Along the 9.3 line of thinking...
Does anyone make or have a mold that tosses a 193 grain boolit? I jest bought a twin tubed rifle that's old. Black powder proofed and I'll be needing to feed it soon.
Since it's still in transit I can't guess the size of the pipes or even the caliber. (Guessing 9.3X72R) I will have to cast the chamber and slug it after it gets here.
I'm just trying to get my homework done ahead of time