View Full Version : Moulds on clearence at Midway
Catshooter
04-21-2010, 11:35 PM
Just FYI gentlemen, MidwayUSA(.com) has some Lyman moulds on clearence.
Can't have too many now, can we.
Cat
Matt_G
04-21-2010, 11:44 PM
A lot of people have been sending back Lyman moulds because they are dropping under sized boolits.
Could be those returns are what is on clearance. Just sayin...
Don't take this wrong, but I wouldn't buy a new Lyman mold if it was on CLEARANCE. I'm finished with new Lyman's !
They are ok.............................................if you need an undersized mold :lol:
Catshooter
04-22-2010, 06:50 PM
The last three Lyman moulds I bought new were from Midway. All were just fine, right on spec.
Cat
What cal................all 45 molds were undersized for me.
anachronism
04-22-2010, 09:48 PM
Personally, I prefer Ideal moulds to Lyman. Ideal moulds were made when companies cared more about quality than production schedules. I have yet to find an Ideal mould that was out of spec. It really is worth looking for the older moulds as long as you can find really clean ones.
lavenatti
04-23-2010, 06:33 AM
No thanks, just returned the last Lyman I bought to Midsouth.
More than just Lyman. RCBS and Saeco.
Catshooter
04-23-2010, 08:17 PM
The last three new Lyman I bought were a 375449, 429421 & a 452424. All were excellent.
Cat
Well I'll be.......................over the last year I purchased 4 or 5 and they have all been undersized. I stopped buying about 6 months ago so maybe Lyman has their act together.
Catshooter:
When did you purchase those three molds. I'm trying to see if their molds are just spotty on quality control or if it was a certain time frame where they didn't check their molds prior to leaving the factory.
Catshooter
04-24-2010, 05:50 PM
RobS,
The 375 about six months ago, the 45 about three or four months, and the 44 two weeks.
In fact, the .45 cast a beautiful boolit and both would fall out when the mould was opened.
Cat
Catshooter:
From your experience Lyman molds from midway over the past 6 months have cast out on spec which is great for others to know. I ordered over six months ago and ended up with two different 452374 molds, one a double cavity and one a 4 cavity, that both dropped at .450, a double cavity 452651 that cast out at .451, a double cavity 311299 which was .30755-.308 and a 314299 at .311. I used the 314299 sized to .309 with good results for my 30 cal rifle which had a groove diameter of .308.
A friend who doesn't cast for a 375 any longer just recently gave me a 375449 mold and it cast bullets at .377 and works well for my 375 H&H. I don't have the production dates on the other molds that were undersized, but the 375449 is dated 11/09 so fairly recent.
Maybe others that have molds that cast in spec can chime in and give the production dates and those who have undersized molds can supply the rest of us those dates as well and we can figure out what is going on. Although I have a feeling Lyman quality control goes further than just a simple time frame as it could very well be caliber specific too. Anyway knowledge can't hurt and this is good info for people should they be looking at Lyman molds.
Charley
04-24-2010, 11:15 PM
#311008 that I got on this clearance dropped today at .313, just about perfect for my intended uses. Rather have oversized than undersized...
c3d4b2
04-25-2010, 01:12 AM
I was able to pick up a Saeco 315 mould that I have been lusting after and with uncharacteristically good luck I found a coupon for an addition $10.00 off.
I just ordered the 429421 from them I'll pick it up Tuesday so I'll let y'all know that night. Hopefully, it will be good to go.
Ia.redneck
04-25-2010, 09:50 PM
Bought a Lyman 314299 from Midway last month, it casts undersize as well.
Tinbullet
04-29-2010, 03:42 PM
I just cast two different lead mixes from a new Lyman 311041 173 gr flat nose.
The first mix of "range lead" at 6-7 BHN dropped from the mold at .310 ish and 178 gr.
The second mix of lino and lead mix at 13-14 BHN dropped at a .311 ish and are 10 grains lighter. I like the thicker sprue plates.
bootsnthejeep
04-29-2010, 04:20 PM
Just ordered a 375 gr 500 S&W mould. Hopefully it casts up to snuff, I've got a lot of work lined up for that baby. Too bad its just a one banger.
bootsnthejeep
05-07-2010, 08:20 AM
Just got it the other day, casted with it last night. Does seem a tad undersized and a bit out of round. But this was just the first attempt, and not the right alloy. We'll see what happens. Worst case scenario I send it to Erik and have it evened out. Just a 1 cavity.
JohnH
05-12-2010, 09:46 PM
Just a heads up for ya Catshooter. First wanted to say thanks for the notice here. I read it last Friday and ordered a Lyman 452460. I had that mold some 20 years ago but traded it off with some other stuff too long ago to remember when or for what. I bought one, as the earlier version performed most admirably, and with another 1911 in the house, I needed something to feed it it might like.
It came in today. It was inspected and packed by Cathy L on 11-16-09. I cast up some 200 boolits and spot checking about 20 of them got readings from .451 to .453 Loaded up 10 rounds, everything went bang and fed perfectly. Did that 2 more times and got the same results. The resultant 30 round group was 4". Discount 4 rounds, and the group shrank to 3" with 17 rounds in 1.5" Not bad for old eyes and the fading light of evening (shooting was between 6:00 and 7:15 pm CST in Eastern Alabama) Thanks again for your post.
The 429421 I got drops WW right at .429 and look real pretty. I'm pleased
bootsnthejeep
05-13-2010, 08:07 AM
Wouldn't it be nice if Lyman could get their act together and either make ALL good moulds or ALL junk moulds. It's the inconsistency that's frustrating.
The tag inside my mould box had a "Made on" date, I believe it was late last year, I'll have to find it. I wonder if all the undersized moulds have similar dates? Bad machines, third shift?
Matt_G
05-13-2010, 08:27 AM
The tag inside my mould box had a "Made on" date, I believe it was late last year, I'll have to find it. I wonder if all the undersized moulds have similar dates? Bad machines, third shift?
Could very well be. Could be lots of reasons for it. Maybe a new guy who just didn't care, worn out cherries, heck who knows...
It is nice to see folks getting decent moulds of recent manufacture though. I thought I was going to have to write Lyman off as a source of moulds and I wasn't real happy about that.
Looks like that isn't the case now.
Now if we could just convince them to bring back some of their old, proven designs!
Catshooter
05-13-2010, 08:51 PM
Johnh,
You're welcome. That's why I posted. I've bought four or five new Lyman moulds from Midway in the last six months, all were good as far as size.
They also, to a man, needed at most just a tap to release, or just opening the mould. Of course they have to be fully warmed up. I really enjoy opening the mould and having two boolits just drop out.
I'm sorry some have had bad luck with some new Lymans, it's a shame. I hate the fact that they are just another entity that makes up the heartless, uncaring and irresponsible group we call corporate America. Oh well.
Cat
jameslovesjammie
05-16-2010, 04:14 PM
The ONLY Lyman I purchased new was a 4 cavity 401638. Supposed to drop at .401. They all drop .403x.406. I purchased it new in December 2008 and it was cut in August 2008. It came in the new "black box" style mould box. I kept it because they size down, but if it had been undersized I would have sent it back in a heartbeat.
I have Ideal moulds made back to 1926 and newish Lymans up to the late 90's purchased used that are right on the money. Hopefully, as Catshooter mentioned, they have gotten their act back together again.
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