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closebutnocigar
04-09-2010, 08:19 AM
I got a new mold I want to use for my 1917 / 30-06.

Until now I donīt now a person using this mold but Iīm rather curious about it and wanted to try.

Is here someone who uses this mold?

What are your experiences ??

http://lymanproducts.com/includes/img/lyman/bulletcasting/rifles/311644.jpg

mrbill2
04-09-2010, 09:22 AM
I use that bullet in my 308 and get great results, with IMR4227 and AA5744. One inch groups at 100 yds. when I do my part. I did have to beagle the mold to get a .300 nose.

closebutnocigar
04-09-2010, 09:47 AM
Thank you for your information.

Please, can you use another word for "beagle".

My translator says this is a dog and I really donīt understand what you want to say.

sqlbullet
04-09-2010, 09:53 AM
beagle cast bullets (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beagle+cast+bullets)

Second link, scroll down about 1.5 pages to the heading "How to beagle a mold"


Edit - Not trying to be a jerk, just in the mindset of 'teach a man to fish'.

JDL
04-09-2010, 10:30 AM
My Winchester M.70 Target loves this boolit with 12 grains of Unique and 1 MOA is quite common with this combination. Second place is 17 grains of 2400 which runs 1.5 MOA.
JDL

fourarmed
04-09-2010, 12:36 PM
That bullet has worked better in my 1917 Remington (a 2-groove JA) than any other I have tried.

JDL
04-09-2010, 05:52 PM
Just returned from the range testing this boolit in my .308 Savage 99. Only had enough for 2 groups but, got 1.8"and 1.18". Accurate 3100 was the propellant @ 41 grains, almost a case full. More testing to come.
JDL

Maven
04-09-2010, 06:19 PM
cbnc, I've tried #31644 in both my .30-06 and 7.5 x 55mm (K-31) and was quite pleased with its performance (m.o.a. accuracy in both cals.). Loads for the '06 were 21 - 22 grs. WC 820 (AA #9); 21 - 23 grs. 5744; 23 - 24 grs. H/IMR 4198; 28 - 30 grs. IMR 3031; 46 - 49 grs. WC 860 + LR mag. primers.

Doc Highwall
04-10-2010, 11:47 AM
The nose on mine come out at .298" or .002" too small.

mrbill2
04-10-2010, 06:25 PM
The nose on mine come out at .298" or .002" too small.
You need to do a beagle job and get the nose up to .300 or more. :smile:

Doc Highwall
04-10-2010, 10:35 PM
When I get around to it I plan on machining it to the proper diameter.

dominicfortune00
04-11-2010, 10:02 PM
closebutnocigar

Make sure your mold matches the picture you posted.

IIRC, somebody posted earlier this year that Lyman changed the shape of the 311644 to do away with the tapered area.

I have one that matches the picture, but haven't had a chance to cast any yet.

1Shirt
04-12-2010, 12:13 PM
It is an odd looking blt, maybe even ugly, however, that said, it shoots very well in my 06's, and 308's. Like it best over 2400.
1Shirt:coffeecom

Maineboy
04-12-2010, 05:59 PM
I have one and it works good in everything I've tried, but the mould just doesn't want to drop the boolits. I have to beat and pound the hinge pin for half a minute at times. Does anyone else have that problem with this design? I've tried all the easy fixes except Kroil.

mrbill2
04-12-2010, 07:38 PM
If you buy a 311644 mold today, this is the bullet it will cast.

The new bullet still has the tapered section just in front of the first driving band, the lube groves on the bullet nose are no longer there.

excavman
04-12-2010, 07:55 PM
Maineboy, have you tried the spray stuff sold at Midwayusa from Franklin Arsenal? I think it's called mold release or something like that. It does seem to help sticking molds.

Larry

Maineboy
04-13-2010, 01:50 PM
Maineboy, have you tried the spray stuff sold at Midwayusa from Franklin Arsenal? I think it's called mold release or something like that. It does seem to help sticking molds.

Larry

No, I haven't tried any mould releases but then I don't have any on hand. Smoking helped a little. If Kroil doesn't work I'll try the release stuff.

MaxJon
10-19-2016, 10:29 PM
This mould is my next purchase for my M98 308

Doc Highwall
10-20-2016, 11:18 AM
I have the old style with the grease groove on the nose.

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MaxJon
10-20-2016, 05:37 PM
What's it shoot like in the .308?? Lyman lists it as a .308 design capable of 1 Moa!

Doc Highwall
10-21-2016, 01:16 PM
I have not been able to get the Lyman 311644 with the undersize nose to shoot much better then 2" out of a 30-30 singleshot rifle. On the other hand my best bullet mould I have is the SAECO #315, here is the best 5 shot groups at 100 and 300 yards.
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MaxJon
10-22-2016, 01:05 AM
Nice work there doc!

waco
10-22-2016, 01:31 PM
I have the old style with the grease groove on the nose.

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Not sure I understand the point in having grease grooves on the nose.

Doc Highwall
10-22-2016, 02:57 PM
waco, that is the way the the bullet was designed by a cast bullet bench-rest shooter.

Doc Highwall
10-22-2016, 02:59 PM
Thanks bullbarrel033.

Nice work there doc!

waco
10-23-2016, 01:36 PM
waco, that is the way the the bullet was designed by a cast bullet bench-rest shooter.

Interesting....I've never seen that one before.

Doc Highwall
10-23-2016, 06:56 PM
I had the Lyman catalog that showed it with the shallow grease groove on the nose, then they changed it to the new style without the groove.