452-230gr HP Group Buy is Here.

[SciFiJim]

452-230grHP Group buy is Now Open.


This group buy is from the interested generated in this thread started by 2 Dogs.
A Different 45 ACP Hollow Point (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=70594)

This Group Buy is for a 452-230gr Hollow Point Round Flat Nosed plain base boolit designed by 45 2.1 (a member here) for the 45acp and 45 revolvers. It should also work in 45 carbines. The weight without the hollow point should be about 249gr. The molds will be produced by Night Owl Enterprises (NOE) in their standard 1-5 cavity molds AND the RG Hollow Point molds.

The 452-230grHP Group Buy will be scheduled for production once we reach 15 orders. The group buy will run until two week before production. I will give a last call several days before closing.

Hollow Pointed Boolit

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=170&pictureid=2020


Moulds will be machined from 2024 Aluminum
Used for high strength structural and aircraft applications.
Tensile strength range 30,000 to 63,000 psi
Sprue plate (blued), alignment pins, and hardware will be
carbon steel.



The cost will be as follows:

Standard Molds
Single cavity mould $68.00 Ea.
Double cavity mould $72.00 Ea.
Three cavity mould $79.00 Ea.
Four cavity mould $85.00 Ea.
Five cavity mould $92.00 Ea.
Hollow pointing one cavity and furnishing a double ended pin would be $35.00 extra.
If you want to fashion different HP profiles, an extra blank pin would be $1.50

RG Molds
Two cavity RG2 HP mould $96.00 Ea.
Includes one set of hollow point pins
and one set of flat nose pins.
If you want to fashion different HP profiles for the RG2 an extra blank pin set of two (2) would be $4.

Four cavity RG4 HP mould $126.00 Ea.
Includes one set of hollow point pins
and one set of flat nose pins.
If you want to fashion different HP profiles for the RG4 an extra blank pin set of four (4) would be $8.

Shipping and handling will be $10 per order and shipped priority mail. If you live outside the United States contact me, and I will work with you.


Lead time is 4-5 weeks after Group Buy closes.

Instructions for using the Group Buy order system page are HERE (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=56550).

Use the Group Buy order system HERE (http://www.groupbuys.dnsalias.com/login.asp) to place your order. Use the link provided or use the link at the bottom of the page. Print two copies of the order sheet and mail both to me with your payment. Once we are ready to go, I will place the order with NOE. The molds will be shipped to me and I will distribute them. I will accept bank check, money order or PayPal + $4.50. If using PayPal contact me first.

The mold is machined to use LEE Commercial 6-Cavity handles (not included).
A Lyman, RCBS type top punch is furnished with each mould as well as a sample of Bull Plate sprue plate lube.

Visitors from other forums are welcome to participate in this group buy.
Email me at scifijim - at - gmail.com
Do the normal voodoo with the address to make it work, I don't want spambots to skim for my address.

Please leave a post here or PM me when you order and I will add you to the list.

I will post a running list of confirmed orders with username and options and a list of zip codes that payments have been received from in the next post.
Thanks
Jim

[SciFiJim]

Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. fivegunner - RG4
7. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
8. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
10. AnthonyB - RG4 + blank pin set
11. archmaker - RG2
12. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
13. mold maker - RG4
14. Russ68 - RG2
15. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
16. Butler Ford - RG2
17. hicard - RG2
18. 2 dogs - RG4
19. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
20. Bob J - RG4
21. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
22. zuke - RG2




Zip Codes of payments received
29720
99588
91106 x2
34232
77316
28613
96055 x2
78413
02171
42728
07208
P4N 8R7

[GLL]

Jim:

I will take:

1 @ single cavity HP + 3 extra pins+ 1 extra pin holder
&
1@ four cavity

I love the great big hole up front on this design ! :)

Jerry

[SciFiJim]

Jerry, It's good to see you first in line in one of my group buys again. I added you to the list.
Thanks,
Jim

[Rickk]

Jim,
Thanks for handling this one.

I would like a
Two cavity RG2 HP mould $96.00 Ea.
Includes one set of hollow point pins
and one set of flat nose pins.

Would like to pay using paypal please.

RickK
rick.kenyon.sr at gmail dot com

[SciFiJim]

GLL - PM sent

Rickk - PM sent

Thanks,
Jim

[bushwaker]

I would like a RG2 hp mold. and i would like to pay with paypal. my email is sprayman2007@comporium.net Thanks

[SciFiJim]

bushwaker, I added you to the list. PM sent.
Thanks,
Jim

[2 dogs]

I will be sending a check shortly! Thanks!

[SciFiJim]

2 dogs - I will PM you when it arrives.
Thanks,
Jim

[timbuck]

I'm in. RG4 w/2 blank pin sets.

[harley45]

I'd be interested in a single cavity hp mold but where can i find details on the differences between standard and rg?

[SciFiJim]

timbuck - I added you to the list.

Harley45 - I am currently working on a write up that explains the difference. In the meantime check out this thread. It was when SwedeNelson introduced them.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=56593&page=2
(http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=56593&page=2)
Check out post #22

[SciFiJim]

I have been asked many times about the difference between a standard Night Owl Enterprises (NOE) mold and the RG molds they produce. I’ve created this write up to explain.

NOE’s standard molds come in a selection of one to five cavities. With a few rare exceptions, any of these molds can have a single cavity hollow pointed. See the following pictures as examples. Thanks to SwedeNelson for the pictures.

Standard Molds
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=294&pictureid=2026

Standard Molds with hollow point pin and holder knob
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=294&pictureid=2028



The RG series of molds that NOE produces have either two or four cavities. All cavities are hollow pointed. The RG molds come with a set of pins for hollow points and a set of pins for flat points. The pins are attached to the mold blocks with a system that resembles the Cramer hollow point system. However, in the RG system the pins are retained by steel slides attached to the bottom of the mold block instead of sliding pins that go through one of the mold halves. This system allows aluminum mold blocks to have multiple hollow points. The Cramer system is usually reserved for harder metal mold blocks like steel or brass. See the following pictures for examples of the RG system.

RG4 exploded view
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=294&pictureid=2029

Actual RG4 mold
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=294&pictureid=2027

[dutch41]

I would like a RG4 w/2 extra sets of blank pins.

Thanks.

[OLPDon]

Order placed, Check will be in the mail today
Zip 07208
Don

[SciFiJim]

Thanks Don, I will add you to the list.
Jim

[archmaker]

Sorry for the delay, I been on the road for the past three weeks. Check was mailed today.

[SciFiJim]

No problem archmaker, I will PM you when it arrives.
Thanks,
Jim

[bushwaker]

i changed to a RG4 mold. but i would like to add extra set of pins and pin holder.PM me and let me know how much for extra pins and holder thanks.

[SciFiJim]

bushwaker - I added it to your order. PM sent.
Thanks,
Jim

[jon5544]

I have a Saeco Lubri-Sizer and am new to reloading. Question regarding the top punch. Should a punch design for a round nose bullet be used? If not, what top punch is recommended?

[SciFiJim]

Jon5544 - Your mold comes with a top punch designed to fit the boolit.

[jon5544]

The die mentioned is a Lyman, RCBS...either I need to find an adapter for the Saeco or will a Saeco style punch be provided instead of the Lyman, RCBS?

[SciFiJim]

Jon,
I had to do a bit of googling to find out that Saeco top punches are threaded. I learned something new today.

The top punch that is provided with the mold has a straight shank designed for the Lyman/RCBS type lube sizers.

After looking at the Saeco mold charts, it looks like a close fit would be a 45424 top punch.

[jon5544]

Thanks! Your help is appreciated...
Jon

[SciFiJim]

Jon, A bit more googling and I found that hollowpointmold.com sells an adapter.


Top punch adaptor-fits Lyman or RCBS top punches to Saeco lubri-sizer press. $20 each shipped. (http://www.hollowpointmold.com/forsale/viewimage.php?type=sale&item=100&image=100&display=+Saeco+%3A+Top+punch+adaptor-fits+Lyman+or+RCBS+top+punches+to+Saeco+lubri-sizer+press.+++%2420+each+shipped.)

That way you could have an exact fit for the top punch.

[SciFiJim]

We are at 13 molds ordered. A couple more and we can add this one to the production schedule.
Jim

[Russ68]

Order for 1 RG2 made with the group buy order system. Payment will go out tomorrow.

Thanks!

[jon5544]

Very cool! Thanks for the extra effort. I've sent them an email to order one which saves me about $20.

thanks again.....now I can't wait to get the mold....just one more order to go !

[kahrman]

Order for 1 RG2 with extra pin set sent by order system. How would you like your PayPal?

Kahrman

[SciFiJim]

Kahrman - I added you to the list. PM to follow.
Thanks,
Jim

[SciFiJim]

That make 15 molds ordered. I need to get with SwedeNelson to get this one on the schedule. We are probably looking at September.
Jim

[Butler Ford]

Two cavity RG2 HP mould $96.00 Ea.


Funds on the way this weekend.

[hicard]

Two cavity RG2 HP mould $96.00 plus $10 shipping.

Funds on the way tomorrow.

[SciFiJim]

I added you guys to the list.
Thanks,
Jim

[2 dogs]

I sent payment today!

[SciFiJim]

2 dogs,
I added you to the list and will PM you when payment arrives.
Thanks,
Jim

[keilo9er]

what is the total diameter of the meplat on this design?? definitely interested!!!

[hicard]

I would like to order one more RG2 for a friend of mine. A total of 2 RG2 moulds please. Will send payment for second mould in a few days. Funds sent 3/29/10 for 2nd mould.

[SciFiJim]

Hicard, I will add it to the list.
Thanks,
Jim

[Bob J]

In for an RG4.... Jim, would like to pay with Paypal if I can.....

[Oldslabsides]

I'm in for a RG3. Would like to use Pay Pal if possible.

[SciFiJim]

Oldslabsides, PM sent.
Jim

[hicard]

Oldslabsides, I don't believe an RG3 is available. Correct me if I am wrong.

[SciFiJim]

Nope, only RG2 and RG4.
Jim

[timbuck]

A May bump for a worthy boolit

[zuke]

Sign me up!
Two cavity RG2 HP mould $96.00 Ea.
Includes one set of hollow point pins
and one set of flat nose pins.
If you want to fashion different HP profiles for the RG2 an extra blank pin set of two (2) would be $4.

Do you take descreet Paypal?

[SciFiJim]

zuke, PM sent.
Thanks,
Jim

[hicard]

Jim, you show me only paid for one RG2 and I have sent in 2 payments for 2 total. Could you update that for me please?

hicard

[SciFiJim]

Hicard - PM replied to
Jim

[jon5544]

when will this mold go into production???

[SciFiJim]

It is currently scheduled for production in October.

[X-man]

Man, temptation, temptation! I want one of these!!! Have to check the piggybank and see if I have any "mad money" left! :)

[gunstocl]

I will take a 4 RG with one set of Hollowpoint pins and one set of Flatnose pins.
PM sent

[SciFiJim]

gunstocl - PM replied to.
Jim

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 6/1


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. fivegunner - RG4
7. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
8. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
10. AnthonyB - RG4 + blank pin set
11. archmaker - RG2
12. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
13. mold maker - RG4
14. Russ68 - RG2
15. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
16. Butler Ford - RG2
17. hicard - RG2
18. 2 dogs - RG4
19. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
20. Bob J - RG4
21. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
22. zuke - RG2
23. gunstocl - RG4




Zip Codes of payments received
29720
99588
91106 x2
34232
77316
28613
96055 x2
78413
02171
42728
07208
P4N 8R7
N0H 2L0

[bootsnthejeep]

Damn, ok, its just money, I guess I'll make more. Someday.

I'll take an RG4 with an extra set of pins. Its just too nice a bullet to pass up.

[AnthonyB]

Jim:
Please take me off the list for this one; I bought two of the BD45s and don't need another design so similar.
Thanks,
Tony

[lonewelder]

If it's not to late I'd like a RG2

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 6/16


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316
07208
28613
53546
75602
42728
96055 x2
78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932

[SciFiJim]

bootsnthejeep - PM sent
lonewelder - PM responded to.
AnthonyB - I took care of it for you.

[Rickk]

Jim,
Do we have a production schedule on this one yet?
Rick

[SciFiJim]

Rick,
Not yet, other than some time in the fall.

[Landric]

I'm in for a RG2!

[SciFiJim]

Landric - I will add you to the list. PM sent.
Jim

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 6/17


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set
24. landric - RG2




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316
07208
28613
53546
75602
42728
96055 x2
78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932

[joecool911]

Why are people ordering extra pins? I want to order, but need to understand why and if I will need extra.

[timbuck]

Why are people ordering extra pins? I want to order, but need to understand why and if I will need extra.

If you want to fashion different HP profiles for the RG4 an extra blank pin set of four (4) would be $8.

[Echo]

OK, Carrumba, I don't know why, but I guess I REALLY need an RG2!

Carrumba...

Jim, PM me your address and I will send a cashier's check - can't see giving PayPal $2.50 for the privilege when .44 will get the bucks to you pretty soon.

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 6/20


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set
24. landric - RG2
25. Echo - RG2
26. DaveD - RG4




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316
07208
28613
53546
75602
42728
96055 x2
78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932
85748

[DaveD]

Jim,
Put me down for an RG-4. Group Buy site is down. Can I send info with payment or how are you handling this?

Thanks,
Dave

[SciFiJim]

Dave - I added you to the list. PM sent.
Thanks,
Jim

[Highland Drifter]

Jim,
Can't resist this one any longer. Please PM me where to sent payment.
I'm in for an RG2.

Brian

[SciFiJim]

Highland Drifter,
I added you to the list. PM sent.
Jim

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 6/29


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set
24. landric - RG2
25. Echo - RG2
26. DaveD - RG4
27. Highland Drifter - RG2




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316
07208
28613
53546
75602
42728
96055 x2
78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932
85748
85205

[SciFiJim]

Scott Bowes, Please send me a PM.
Jim

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 7/29


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set
24. landric - RG2
25. Echo - RG2
26. DaveD - RG4
27. Highland Drifter - RG2
28. TechNomad - RG4 + blank pin set
29. 500ASquare - RG4




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316
07208
28613
53546
75602
42728
96055 x2
78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932
85748
85205
84003

[zuke]

Are there different pin profile's we can get such as the hex shape?

[SciFiJim]

NOE only provides the standard round shape profile shown in post #1 and pins for a non hollow pointed boolit. However, you can order blank pins and create your own profiles.

[Steel185]

I'm in for a RG4 mold with 1 extra set of pins. awesome!

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 8/30


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set
24. landric - RG2
25. Echo - RG2
26. DaveD - RG4
27. Highland Drifter - RG2
28. TechNomad - RG4 + blank pin set
29. 500ASquare - RG4
30. Steel185 - RG4 + blank pin set
31. M1 Tom - RG4
32. taminsong - RG4
33. X-man - RG4
34. 2003viper - RG4 + blank pin set




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316
07208
28613
53546
42728
96055 x2
78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932
85748
85205
84003
79424
98332
67664
72712
4506 Philippines

[M1 Tom]

Jim,

I'd like to get 1, RG 4, Hollow point mold.

Please PM me.

Thanks,

Tom

[SciFiJim]

M1 Tom - PM sent.
Jim

[2003viper]

is it to late to get in on this one? if not, i would like a rg4 with a extra set of pins and pin holder.

[SciFiJim]

2003viper, The pin holders are built into the mold. PM sent on the rest.
Thanks,
Jim

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 9/23


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2 + blank pin set
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set
24. landric - RG2
25. Echo - RG2
26. DaveD - RG4
27. Highland Drifter - RG2
28. TechNomad - RG4 + blank pin set
29. 500ASquare - RG4
30. Steel185 - RG4 + blank pin set
31. M1 Tom - RG4
32. taminsong - RG4
33. X-man - RG4
34. 2003viper - RG4 + blank pin set
35. sourceofuncertainty - RG4




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316
07208
28613
53546
42728
96055 x2
78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932
85748
85205
84003
79424
98332
67664
72712
4506 Philippines
91901
85018

[sourceofuncertainty]

Interested in an RG4 but the payment system won't seem to let me create an account. PM sent to wiljen as per instructions.

[SciFiJim]

the payment system won't seem to let me create an account

What a lot of people have had success with, is to try logging in with the information that you used for the setup. Seems a lot of people get the error, but the info goes in anyway. Give it a try and see if it works.

[sourceofuncertainty]

Yep, that did the trick. Thanks too, to wiljen for a quick response to my PM.

[2 dogs]

Whats the status of this buy? When will we be seeing these molds? Thanks!

[SciFiJim]

The group buy is currently scheduled for January.

[jon5544]

25-Feb The 452-230grHP Group Buy will be scheduled for production once we reach 15 orders. The group buy will run until two week before production.
19-Mar That make 15 molds ordered. I need to get with SwedeNelson to get this one on the schedule. We are probably looking at September.
19-May It is currently scheduled for production in October.
10-Jun ....some time in the fall.
23-Sep The group buy is currently scheduled for January.

Wow ! , how certain is the January schedule?

[SciFiJim]

Jon, We are at the mercy of the shop that manufactures them. The schedule was changed to three group buys a month to allow time for things that come up during the group buys that precede it (hopefully without throwing the schedule off any more).
I understand the frustration of everyone that has been waiting on these. If anyone is unwilling to wait, I will cheerfully send a refund along with an apology for not being able to get it done sooner. I think the schedule will work as configured, but I cannot give a guarantee.

[AaronJ]

do i still have time to place an order for a RG4 mold?

[SciFiJim]

Aaron, The group buy is still open. PM sent.
Jim

[SciFiJim]

Orders and Payments as of 12/22


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2 + blank pin set
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set
24. landric - RG2
25. Echo - RG2
26. DaveD - RG4
27. Highland Drifter - RG2
28. TechNomad - RG4 + blank pin set
29. 500ASquare - RG4
30. Steel185 - RG4 + blank pin set
31. M1 Tom - RG4
32. taminsong - RG4
33. X-man - RG4
34. 2003viper - RG4 + blank pin set
35. sourceofuncertainty - RG4
36. AaronJ - RG4
37. shdwlkr - RG4
38. Dutch4122 - RG2




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316
07208
28613
53546
42728
96055 x2
78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932
85748
85205
84003
79424
98332
67664
72712
4506 Philippines
91901
85018
A0A4J0
62864
15401
N0H 2L0

[zuke]

A bump for old time's sense.

[bootsnthejeep]

Any chance of ordering these with extra hollow point pins of the different designs, such as http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=93293&highlight=NOE+313640+stock?

Just curious.

[Highland Drifter]

Bump back to the front.
Any news on this mold?

[SciFiJim]

Bump back to the front.
Any news on this mold?

Now big news. Still taking orders and waiting for its turn in line. There is a delay while the shop adds more mills, then things should start moving faster than previously.

[shdwlkr]

my order is going in the mail today for an rg4 thanks

[Okie2]

gc available for extra $$$$ please. Scott

[zuke]

Any word on this buy yet?

[SciFiJim]

Got word today that the group buy may be produced next week.
So, This group buy is CLOSED!

If you missed out, there will be extras manufactured. Watch for the posting in the Vendor sponsor section.

PMs will be sent this evening on molds not paid yet.

[SciFiJim]

Group buy is closed. Waiting on final payments.

Orders and Payments as of 1/30/11


Orders
1. GLL - Single cavity w/HP + 3 blank pins + 1 extra pin holder
2. GLL - 4 cavity
3. dominicfortune00 - RG4
4. jon5544 - RG4 + blank pin set
5. Rickk - RG2
6. bushwaker - RG4 +blank pin set
7. timbuck - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
8. dutch41 - RG4 + 2 blank pin sets
9. archmaker - RG2
10. OLPDon - RG4 + blank pin set
11. mold maker - RG4
12. Russ68 - RG2
13. kahrman - RG2 + blank pin set
14. Butler Ford - RG2
15. hicard - RG2
16. 2 dogs - RG4
17. hicard - RG2 (for a total of 2)
18. Bob J - RG4
19. Oldslabsides - 3 cavity
20. zuke - RG2 + blank pin set
21. gunstocl - RG4
22. lonewelder - RG2
23. bootsnthejeep - RG4 + blank pin set
24. landric - RG2
25. Echo - RG2
26. DaveD - RG4
27. Highland Drifter - RG2
28. TechNomad - RG4 + blank pin set
29. 500ASquare - RG4
30. Steel185 - RG4 + blank pin set
31. M1 Tom - RG4
32. taminsong - RG4
33. X-man - RG4
34. 2003viper - RG4 + blank pin set
35. sourceofuncertainty - RG4
36. AaronJ - RG4
37. shdwlkr - RG4
38. Dutch4122 - RG2




Zip Codes of payments received
91106 x2
34232
99588
29720
77316

07208
28613
53546
42728
96055 x2

78413
02171
P4N 8R7
78932
85748

85205
84003
79424
98332
67664

72712
4506 Philippines
91901
85018
A0A4J0

62864
15401
N0H 2L0
83704
48415

53132
27317

[Rickk]

That's good news, Jim. It has been a while!!!

[hicard]

Jim, I just got notice of a package coming from you. Is this mould it?

[SciFiJim]

No, it is the 311165 group buy. It took me a week to get 70 packages ready to mail (and kids off to college, etc.)

The 452-230 is due to be manufactured this next week, so it will probably be a couple of weeks yet before you see it in your mailbox.

[SwedeNelson]

Proofed the form tool.
Looks great, its on the mill.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/452230GrHP002.jpg

Swede Nelson

[archmaker]

Looks good, can't wait to get it and start playing with it. I have a wonderful problem, however, to many new molds and not enough time to cast with them all. :)

May have to take a few days off, when the weather turns nice to take care of my problem.

[taminsong]

Wow, I'm so excited!

Can you post a pic with HP?

[hicard]

That flatnose bullet would put the smack on anything it hits.

[Blammer]

MAN I wish that was 44 cal... :)

[SwedeNelson]

Got the moulds in and QC is done.
Weight 223.4Gr. with my WW material
Dimensions on.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/452250GrRF.jpg
Nice big hollow point.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/452250GrRFMould002.jpg

Going to the mail tonight.

Swede Nelson

[dutch41]

Looks great.

"Christmas" is here again!!

[hicard]

I'll go out and turn my pot on right now.

[AaronJ]

Looks like i need to start smelting more WWs down

[archmaker]

The question is . . . how many HP full of Tequilla does it take before you get drunk?

Brings a whole new meaning to the term "Shooter" :D

I really need to take some days off from work and get to casting, especially when this baby shows up!

[hicard]

I wonder what load it'll take to get those babies to mushroom?

[OLPDon]

That is craftmanship at its best. The mould looks almost to good to dirty with lead...... However.......................

Thanks for all the legwork.
Don

Looks like Groundhog Day won't be the same when Pucksetauny Pet see a HP

[bootsnthejeep]

Sweet! Watching the mailbox!

[zuke]

So these ARE made and being shipped?

[SciFiJim]

So these ARE made and being shipped?

Yes, I shipped some of them today. The rest will be mailed tomorrow.

[zuke]

[smilie=p:
Now I have to dig up some lead from a 5 foot snow bank, but hey it's for a great cause!

[shdwlkr]

Now I have to watch my mail and then wait for warm weather before I can begin casting might even have to get more lead
thanks for honchoing this group buy

[zuke]

It was -30 here last night, -40 this morning with the wind.
If it get to -10 we'll all be happy walking around in sweatshirt's!

[X-man]

It was -30 here last night, -40 this morning with the wind.
If it get to -10 we'll all be happy walking around in sweatshirt's!

That's Celcius for our American cousins. :grin: Was just shoveling off the back deck after another foot of snow last night. It warmed up to -15C and I started sweating so had to strip down to the T-shirt to finish the job.

I too am looking forward to the new mould. Got the E-mail notice yesterday that it was in the mail. Keeping my fingers crossed USPS/Canada Post don't drop the ball!:grin:

[SciFiJim]

I got the rest of them mailed today.

It was 65º here today. Supposed to be 68º tomorrow. It's nice this time of year, but the summers can get up to 110º.
The problem with nice winters it that I have already mowed the grass twice in the last month.

[DukeInMaine]

I hate you guys! My lawn is somewhere under 3 feet of frozen snow!!!!
Last time we had a winter like this, it was early JUNE before I had to mow the lawn. In fact, that year, we had snow on the roof until end of April, and snowbanks on the shady roads until the first of May.


I got the rest of them mailed today.

It was 65º here today. Supposed to be 68º tomorrow. It's nice this time of year, but the summers can get up to 110º.
The problem with nice winters it that I have already mowed the grass twice in the last month.

[SciFiJim]

I hate you guys! My lawn is somewhere under 3 feet of frozen snow!!!!

Yeah, but when it is nice there, it will be 100+ here. In the summer, I take a towel with me to the range and make sure to cover anything metal or it gets too hot to hold comfortably.

[bootsnthejeep]

I knew Valentine's Day wouldn't be a complete waste! My mould turned up!

And for you temperature bickerers, it was a whole 37 degrees here today. People walking around in t-shirts! It's balmy out there! Hopefully the clubs can get the snowmobile trails groomed down a bit to fill in the low spots and if it cools off again and firms up, another couple great weeks of sledding!

[archmaker]

My mold showed up today! but I am away from the house! :(

[hicard]

Both of mine showed up today. Will try to cast some up tomorrow. They look like they will do great.

[Rickk]

Mine came today. Thanks Jim. Minus 30F here tonight.

[AaronJ]

just got mine in today already started the heat cycling hoping to have a big pile of HPs later tonight

[mold maker]

Mine was in the mail today. It will be about 70 tomorrow and my back is already telling me to stop splitting wood. Guess I'll just have to cast some as therapy for my back. I'm putting handles on it now.
Thanks Jim and Swede

[jon5544]

Received mine...time to heat up the lead...

Thanks Jim, the wait was worth it !!

[OLPDon]

Recieved mould Monday Nice Valentine Gift. Thank You for the work. Will be heating up the RCBS very soon. The mould is a work of art.
Don

[shdwlkr]

Got mine in the last few days just no time to do much but open package and see it was there.
thanks for honchoing this group buy Scifijim

[timbuck]

delivery confirmation:
Just got mine.
Thanks Jim for for being an uber honcho.

[Steel185]

i got mine yesterday also, thanks to all, it looks great

[DaveD]

delivery confirmation:
Just got mine.
Thanks Jim for for being an uber honcho.

+1 Thanks again Jim!

[hicard]

Has anyone cast and weighed the solid flatpoints to see what they weigh?

[gunstocl]

Thanks Jim,

Mine arrived Thursday. I really appreciate the effort you put into Honcho'ing this mold.

Best regards, Gunstocl

[zuke]

Well I just checked my mail and there was a package in there!
I shook it and it rattled and part's were loose in it,checked the label and it was my mold.
When I got it home and was wondering what in the world could be so loud.
When I opened it I was shocked!
The mold itself is in a little cardboard box but everything else was loose!
No packing, no bubble wrap, no newspaper nothing!
I AM NOT IMPRESSED!
For what I payed and the time i waited could he not have put it all in a small plastic bag?
He took the time to but the bottle of lube in one,and there was enough room to put all the misc part's in the same bag. If not use another bag!

Here's a pic of what I saw when I opened it.

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy356/zuke_bucket/mold.jpg

If anyone what's to buy it it's up for sale.
All I ask is for what I have into it which is $120.00 and you pay shipping.

[SciFiJim]

All of the parts were in the plastic bag when it was mailed. Three layers of packaging (a box or bag inside of a box inside of an envelope) has to this point been sufficient. Of the hundreds of molds that I have shipped to numerous countries and all over the US, there hasn't been a problem until now. I will see if I can find a solution to keep the parts in the bag.

[bootsnthejeep]

Mine did the same thing, but all the parts were there and it doesn't affect the mould.

I don't care. Certainly not the end of the world. :veryconfu

Think I'll keep mine.

[dutch41]

hicard wrote.

Has anyone cast and weighed the solid flatpoints to see what they weigh?

246 with lube.

Scott

[zuke]

Thank you Al Nelson for solving my problem.

[hicard]

Thanks Scott. I did finally get some cast. Think they will work great for what I want to do with them.

[Doby45]

Well I just checked my mail and there was a package in there!
I shook it and it rattled and part's were loose in it,checked the label and it was my mold.
When I got it home and was wondering what in the world could be so loud.
When I opened it I was shocked!
The mold itself is in a little cardboard box but everything else was loose!
No packing, no bubble wrap, no newspaper nothing!
I AM NOT IMPRESSED!
For what I payed and the time i waited could he not have put it all in a small plastic bag?
He took the time to but the bottle of lube in one,and there was enough room to put all the misc part's in the same bag. If not use another bag!

Here's a pic of what I saw when I opened it.

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy356/zuke_bucket/mold.jpg

If anyone what's to buy it it's up for sale.
All I ask is for what I have into it which is $120.00 and you pay shipping.

I fail to see what the problem is. Are you missing parts? Doesn't look like it. Is your allen wrench dented or dinged? Jim is an awesome honcho and has come through on NUMEROUS group buys. I would tend to believe him when he says the other items came out of the little bag with the lube. Hope you find a buyer quickly for your box of loose parts and super hot NOE mold.

[zuke]

I fail to see what the problem is. Are you missing parts? Doesn't look like it. Is your allen wrench dented or dinged? Jim is an awesome honcho and has come through on NUMEROUS group buys. I would tend to believe him when he says the other items came out of the little bag with the lube. Hope you find a buyer quickly for your box of loose parts and super hot NOE mold.

Thank you Al Nelson for solving my problem.

[X-man]

Jim has shipped several moulds to me here in Canada. Zero problems or issues, and I'm in the boonies of Newfoundland, including for this particular mould. Mould halves were secured together with thick rubber band and al extra small parts arrived in a small plastic baggie.

[taminsong]

Delivery confirmation:
Got it yesterday afternoon, went home too early to start the pot.
I started casting maybe before 8PM, end past 12 midnight but never got a handful of
quality boolits!

I've been tossing around in my bed why on earth my new mold is not casting nice 45HP bullets! So I wake up again early, maybe before 6AM today and start the pot again. As I was looking at the mold and trying to figure out what's wrong, I noticed my other molds were smoked, while this one is so shiny! So I start to smoked it right away, and when the temps looks okay, fill it with lead. My goodness, the result was beautiful looking 45 hollow points boolits!

I hate to smoke it because I really like the way it looks, its so shiny! The craftmanship is so beautiful, the fittings are so nice and its really nice to hold!

Wow, I was really in awe everytime I looked at those hollow points!

Thanks a lot and am so grateful for all the people who make this thing happen!

[taminsong]

Here's the result of my effort last night:

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff346/taminsong/10032011236.jpg

[DaveD]

Taminsong,
That sure is purty. What did you coat it with?

[SciFiJim]

I am also curious on how you lubed the boolit without scraping off the coating in the sizing die.

[taminsong]

Hehehehehe, I know this will create curiosity!

Actually the technology to coat that bullet is already there in your backyard! It is called "Powder Coating" and if you research it, you can for sure find a lot of info.

I just paint it, then bake it in the toaster oven and when its cool, resized it in my Lyman 4500!

I'm just curious, will you pay 0.50 cents for that bullet?

My friends are really interested and we test some rounds this morning, and my, the bullet mushroom well!

[kentuckycajun]

If there's an extra mold in the order or someone decides they don't want to keep theirs, I'd really like to have one of these in an RG-4.

[Blammer]

if you powder coat it I thought that took the place of lubing?

so why lube too?

[Russ68]

Looking for some help with casting hollow points. This is my first attempt at casting any HP bullet, and I'm having a heck of a time. I've tried on three separate occasions to get this mold to throw at least one good bullet - with no success.

I did follow the directions included with the mold - to heat up and cool down, degrease, etc...

I have a PID controller for my pot, so I am positive my temp is accurate (I calibrate gages and transmitters at work for a living) and consistent. I've tried casting all the way up to 780F and they still come out wrinkled and shiny. I've preheated the mold with a hot plate, edge of pot and immersion in the melt for up to a minute, all with no success. I cast as fast as humanly possible, no success. I am all ears for any tips or pointers.

The only thing I haven't tried is a ladle poor. I have tried with my bottom pour to vary the distance and speed of flow into the mold, up to touching the spout to the sprue plate and wide open valve...

This same melt (92/6/2 from Rotometals) casts perfect 452-255-FN from my Lee mold.

Thanks

[hicard]

Russ68 I try to keep my pot at 700-750 degrees and once the mold is heated to approx. 500+degrees, I'm good to go.

[zuke]

Looking for some help with casting hollow points. This is my first attempt at casting any HP bullet, and I'm having a heck of a time. I've tried on three separate occasions to get this mold to throw at least one good bullet - with no success.

I did follow the directions included with the mold - to heat up and cool down, degrease, etc...

I have a PID controller for my pot, so I am positive my temp is accurate (I calibrate gages and transmitters at work for a living) and consistent. I've tried casting all the way up to 780F and they still come out wrinkled and shiny. I've preheated the mold with a hot plate, edge of pot and immersion in the melt for up to a minute, all with no success. I cast as fast as humanly possible, no success. I am all ears for any tips or pointers.

The only thing I haven't tried is a ladle poor. I have tried with my bottom pour to vary the distance and speed of flow into the mold, up to touching the spout to the sprue plate and wide open valve...

This same melt (92/6/2 from Rotometals) casts perfect 452-255-FN from my Lee mold.

Thanks

I did a write uin the Group Buy Result's about my NOE 460 330Gr. RF HP.
Have a look there and see if anything help's.
You can alway's call NOE,I did on a Sunday afternoon and he picked up and talked to me about how to use the mold's.

[taminsong]

Blammer,

Sorry for late reply, I got sick for a week.

I resized the boolit to be sure its round and I don't mind the wax. Yeah, shooters here in my place use boolits like that without wax. But I think wax will help a bit, I'm not really sure.

One thing that I found out, when I resize it in the star, powder coated ones just glide thru, you don't need a lot of effort to push the star handle compared to sizing just plain lead. Maybe this is what also happens when you shoot it.

[Steel185]

I'd be interested to see if a powder coated boolit limits the expansion of these HPs. Powder coat is a pretty tuff shell, I was thinking it might resist expansion. Just a thought.