Hornady 148 gr HBWC

[Eagles6]

I've always cast my own using a Lyman #357443. I was given a box of Hornady 148 gr HBWC. I assume that these are to be loaded close to flush but there is no crimp groove. I use RCBS dies which has a roll crimp. How do I crimp these?

[dudel]

I seat them flush with the case mouth over a light load of BE and apply a medium roll crimp. They are amazing accurate in my Contender.

Speer makes the same projectile, which drives tacks.

[BLTsandwedge]

Emphasis on "light load." As in 2.8g BE. It's a pure lead HBWC- the skirt will deform with too much pressure.

[Eagles6]

Thanks BLTsandwedge. I'm shooting them out of a Ruger .357 mag and thought I'd use 3 gr BE to start. Can I load them to regular OAL? I've shot .38 spl wadcutters found accuracy poor.
If I seat the Lyman #357443 and crimp in the crimp groove I also get poor accuracy. If I seat and crimp at the forward end of the top lube groove It improves greatly. Less bullet jump I assume.

[Edubya]

I have a mould for my .38 HBWC boolits and if I use 3.0BE, they will tumble and keyhole at 25 yds. The 2.8 is about as high as I go anymore and they are accurate as I can shoot, even with my 2" S&W642 at 25 yds. I feel like a real shooter with the HBWCs.
EW

[knifemaker]

The standard load for those bullets in PPC matches is 2.7 gr. of Bullseye powder. Seat them flush and a very light crimp. 3 grains may proove to be to much and accuracy will suffer.:lovebooli

[TCFAN]

This is a 5 shot group that I shot a few days ago. Bullet was Speer HBWC with 2.7gr. of Bullseye distance 50 yards. Gun is my S&W 14-6 with a 1x scope that has a dot about the size of the orange dot on the target.

I like the HBWC real well. I have never used the Hornady but have used a few of the Speers. The 5 shot on the target and the one loaded round in the photo was the last ones I had.
I used a pistol perch to shoot this group...........Terry

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx200/TCintheOzarks/Cast%20Boolits/DSCN8242.jpg

[Eagles6]

Thanks for the replies guys. Now I'll have to load some up and work my way through the thigh deep snow on the range to see how they work.