finally puttin together a surplus powder buy, need suggustions

[redneckdan]

I need suggestions for .30-06, 8x57, .45acp and .38 special; I'll be ordering from bartlett. I want a powder that i can use for full power circa 2200fps loads in 8x57, .30-06 Ideally, a powder that is similar to 4895 for use in the garand. I also want a powder that I can use for reduced loads in the rifle cartridges.

[RayinNH]

Dan, Bartlett has 4895. For reduced rifle I would say either WC680, which is in the SR4759--4198 burn range territory or WC820. For .45 ACP and .38 Special maybe AL8 which Bartlett says to use Blue Dot data. Just my thoughts...Ray

[Junior1942]

Dan, here's my results in my 20" barrel 8x57 Turk 38 with surplus 4895 from Hi-Tech. Your results will vary, so reduce and work up. Cases = neck-sized R-P; primers = CCI 200.

Speer 200 gr SP: 44.5 = 2340 fps

Rem 185 SP: 45.0 = 2395

Sierra 175 Spitzer: 47.5 = 2537

Hornady 150 SP: 49.5 = 2765

[Junior1942]

Here's the same rifle, same cases, same primers BUT with WC 860 & Lyman #323471 @ 220 grs RTL:

Range = 50 yards.

49.2 grs/3.4cc WC 860 = 3 shots = 3/4"

AV = 1554 fps; ES = 39; SD = 19

Over 1600 fps and it shot all over the target. Groups grew progressively worse as powder charge/velocity increased from 49.2 grs/3.4cc 1554 fps.