looking at building up a 416 Taylor ...

[abob]

Anyone familiar with the 416 Taylor? It's one of the shorter cartridges in .416 and still is close in performance to the Rigby etc. Brass is usually made from necking down 458 WM. Already have lots of .458 WM brass -- have a .458 WM. Even Lee makes dies as per their web site.

Will cast and PP for it, also there is a few bullet mfgs that have .416 in their lineup. Have not found much reloading data online yet. Any favorite loads, tips or comments appreciated.

Bob.

[rob45]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=72565

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=72554

We have a guy here that goes by Hardcast416taylor. I'm willin' to bet that he might know a thing or two about your cartridge.

[Baron von Trollwhack]

The Ken waters Pet Loads book has a section on it. BvT

[abob]

Thanks guys for the links and comments. Also hoping to hear from those paper patching. Wondering if full speed 2300 - 2400 '/sec loads PP will still stand up. Should be fun trying.
Bob.

[The Double D]

Thanks guys for the links and comments. Also hoping to hear from those paper patching. Wondering if full speed 2300 - 2400 '/sec loads PP will still stand up. Should be fun trying.
Bob.

I can help you with part of your problem. I have an unfired Shilen barrel that is chambered in .416 Remington and threaded for P14 Enfield.

The chamber end could be shortened about .300 and a .416 Taylor reamer ran in to open the chamber up.

The barrel threads could be used for a 1917. The Tenon would have to be lengthened.

For Winchester 70, Remington 700 or Ruger 77 the tenon would have be turned down.

For 98 Mauser you proably need to cut the current barrel tenon off and make a new one. No problem as there is plenty cylinder left to do that.

If you were careful you wouldn't even need to reblue.

I'm not really trying to sell the barrel, it would be cheap. I will just eventually build a .416 Taylor myself. If I did get rid of the barrel, it would get one more project off my plate and that wouldn't hurt anything.

I have a .404 Barnes Jones Express. Have no idea why they called it .404 because it is .416. It is close to but not the same as a Taylor-predates the Taylor and Taylor Chatsfield. A few thousands difference in shoulder diameter. I just use Taylor load data.

I have fired WW lead bullets in it. Gas checked. When I pushed them over 2000 FPS they would shatter on impact on a plywood target board and pass right through cardboard.

It's a good shooting cartridge, very accurate. I have also used it as a jump gun for whitetail deer and it worked good!

I haven't shoot it much lately as I am pretty wrapped up in Martini's. But I will be watching your work. Good luck and keep us updated.

[Uncle Grinch]

I had a 416 Taylor built on a Mark X Mauser and really enjoyed running my RCBS 416-350 FNGC boolits thru it. It's an excellent cartridge, easy to load and fun to shoot.

Go for it!

[Hardcast416taylor]

ABob, Drop me a PM and we can jaw about my namesake round. As the above guys said I "might" know a little about this round.Robert

[abob]

Thanks again guys for posts - comments. PM's sent to Doug and Robert, check your mail boxes. Thanks.....Bob.

[abob]

Hardcast --- What make of barrel do you have in your 416 Taylor ? Or is it factory?

Bob

[pdawg_shooter]

Thanks guys for the links and comments. Also hoping to hear from those paper patching. Wondering if full speed 2300 - 2400 '/sec loads PP will still stand up. Should be fun trying.
Bob.

For me, all my cast rifle rounds are paper patched. Why fight leading, low velocity and poor accuracy with bare cast? Jacketed performance is easy to get with paper. 2300/2400 is childs play with paper.