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joeb33050
01-29-2010, 11:30 AM
Somewhere here I just read about a case lube made with liquid lanolin, castor oil and alcohol,,spray it on the cases in a plastic bag, roll them about,. let the alcohol dry off the cases in a cardboard box.
I just bought lanolin, castor oil, denatured alcohol and a sprayer---but I can't find the post telling about how to mix them. Could somebody tell me where that post is?
Thanks;
joe b.

Calamity Jake
01-29-2010, 02:01 PM
I don't know about the post your looking for but you don't need the caster oil, the lanolin and alcohol works just fine with out it, add about 10% lanolin to your alcohol and try it adjust amount of lanolin to your likeing.
I use anhydrous lanolin and 99% iso. I warm the alcohol(1 Cup) and melt the lanolin
(1.5 tablespoon) then mix in spray bottle.

MtGun44
01-29-2010, 02:50 PM
I believe that the Dillon pumper spray type case lube is alcohol and lanolin only.

Just be very careful when heating the alcohol, no open flames! Have a fire extinguisher,
or at least a bucket of water available if there is any chance of a fire. Alcohol burns almost
invisibly, but is easily extinguished with water.

Bill

monadnock#5
01-29-2010, 02:57 PM
http://www.frfrogspad.com/homemade.htm#Sizing

Here you are Joe.

Flinchrock
01-30-2010, 09:53 AM
The absolute best case sizing lube that I have ever tried is mink oil from track of the wolf!
Just a tiny amount applied with your fingers as you size cases is enough. Smooth operation and easy to clean. A five dollar can is a lifetime supply and you can use it for other things as well, like your frontstuffer or your boots.

I know that this does not address the original question, but I was very impressed with how well that stuff worked. YMMV

44man
01-30-2010, 02:01 PM
Lanolin is sticky but works great. A little hard to clean off the brass though.
I like Hornady Unique and Young Country lube. After sizing I toss a pile in an old towel and roll them around in it. That removes the lube very nicely.
I got tired of the greasy stuff long ago, like RCBS case lube which I think is STP or something like it.

Sprue
01-30-2010, 02:46 PM
Depending on what alcohol you use will depend on whether or not you will have separation once the mixture has set for a spell. Its not an issue though. But to rid your formula of separation use no less than 99% Isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol).

I haven't heard of using Caster Oil either but what do I know.

Here is what I use exclusively for case lube:

4 or 5 parts of Iso-Heet View it here (http://www.amazon.com/28202-Iso-HEET-Fuel-line-Antifreeze-Injector/dp/B000V4HC7Y)
1 part Liquid Lanolin Here is what I buy locally (http://www.vitacost.com/Home-Health-Liquid-Lanolin?csrc=PPCADWLT-liquid_lanolin&mtp=smHrI3or5|pcrid|4371069431)

Iso-Heet can be found in the local Mart stores in the Auto Section. Its in a RED bottle and should be found the gas treatment supplies. Make sure its the RED bottle !

I buy Liquid Lanolin at the Drug Emporium store. It comes in a 4 oz bottle and runs about $7.00 Its pure 100%. I use it for both case lube and boolit lube recipes. I just bought a new bottle this past summer althoug I still have a little left from my first purchase. It goes a long way for me.

Once I have sized my brass I easily clean it off with Laquer Thinner.

I've never had a stuck case with this recipe but can't say the same for the Hornady spray.

** Be careful of the plastic spray bottle that you use for this mixture. I would first suggest that you only place a very small amount into a TEST bottle before thinking about going off an leaving the case lube setting for any period of time. My experience has been that if the test bottle is not deformed or eaten up within a couple hours or less, minutes even, it should/might be okay. YMMV

Ed Barrett
01-30-2010, 10:46 PM
I read about that formula in the latest "Fouling Shot". I've used stright alcohol and lanolin for years with excellent results. Unless you were doing extreme case forming I don't see how castor oil would help. Just my opinion.

lead Foot
01-31-2010, 04:04 AM
I've been using straight Sorbolene Cream for 13 years. Ingredients ~ light mineral oil, cetyl stearyl alcohol, glycerine BP petroleum jelly, cetomacrool 1000, germal plus, vitamin E. It's soft on your hands and cleans your cases too. Only use a little and don't put any on the neck and shoulder.
Lead foot;

joeb33050
01-31-2010, 06:44 AM
I read about that formula in the latest "Fouling Shot". I've used stright alcohol and lanolin for years with excellent results. Unless you were doing extreme case forming I don't see how castor oil would help. Just my opinion.
Thanks, I read about it in the Fouling Shot, not here. I bought the ingredients, made the lube, lubed, dried and sized the cases, and I'm completely sold. Denatured alcohol from the paint dept. has no water. Liquid lanolin and castor oil from the local health food store. The lube and the method both work perfectly, and my hands are looking younger!
joe b.

Blacksmith
01-31-2010, 09:42 PM
Here is a link to a report on Bag Balm which mentions it's use as case lube:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100131/ap_on_re_us/us_bag_balm


Sticky, smelly Bag Balm: Problem-salving for all
Associated Press Writer John Curran, Associated Press Writer – Sun Jan 31, 10:51 am ET
LYNDONVILLE, Vt. – Winter is most definitely here. It must be. The phones are ringing at Bag Balm headquarters.

Everyone wants a new tub of the gooey, yellow-green ointment. And all have a story about its problem-salving — they use it on squeaky bed springs, psoriasis, dry facial skin, cracked fingers, burns, zits, diaper rash, saddle sores, sunburn, pruned trees, rifles, shell casings, bed sores and radiation burns.

Everything, it seems, except for cows.

"Some, you don't really even want to hear, but they're gonna tell you anyway," said accounts manager Krystina McMorrow, who is half the office staff.

"I've been here 14 years," said accounts-receivable clerk Shawna Wilkerson, the other half. "The oddest one I've heard was somebody who reloads his ammunition. He puts Bag Balm on the bullet casing and it makes it easier to reload 'em."

Developed in 1899 to soothe the irritated udders of milking cows, the substance with the mild medicinal odor has evolved into a medicine chest must-have, with as many uses as Elmer's glue.

According to Bag Balm lore, the stuff went from barns to bedrooms when dairy farmers' wives noticed how smooth their spouses' fingers were after using it on cows' udders. The wives were jealous.

Bag Balm went to the North Pole with Admiral Byrd, to Allied troops in World War II, who used it to keep weapons from corroding, to Ground Zero for the paws of cadaver-sniffing dogs searching the World Trade Center rubble, and to troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sold off pet care shelves and at farm stores for $8.99 per 10-oz. green tub (with cow's head on the lid), it's made of petrolatum, lanolin and an antiseptic, 8-hydroxyquinoline sulfate — substantially the same formula used since John L. Norris bought it from a Wells River druggist before the turn of the century.

It is made in a one-room "plant" by the family owned Dairy Association Co., Inc. — six employees, two officers and no sales force — operating in a cluster of converted railroad buildings in this small (pop. 1,215) northern Vermont town.

Petrolatum is shoveled from 50-gallon drums into a large vat and blended with lanolin from Uruguay, then heated to 95 degrees. A machine quickly squirts the goop into metal cans that are cooled, capped and packaged.

The plant is inspected annually by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, though the product is marketed for use by animals, not humans.

Distributed by wholesalers and sold retail in farm stores, national drugstore chains and general stores, its popularity has grown largely with word-of-mouth advertising as converts becomes users and then devotees.

Imitators through the years have included Udderly Smooth Udder Cream and Udder Balm.

The Dairy Association won't divulge sales figures.

In a 1983 report, the late CBS News journalist Charles Kuralt said upward of 400,000 units were shipped annually. Norris' granddaughter, company President Barbara Norris Allen, won't say how today's shipments compare.

"The colder the weather, the better our business," said Ron Bean, production manager at the plant, which is open for tours but not photographers.

To call the operation old-fashioned is an understatement.

The plant operates with one shift, Monday through Friday. The Dairy Association doesn't take credit cards ("Send us a good ol' check," says Allen). And the names of individual stores that buy directly are kept on index cards in file cabinets.

Long-distance bicyclist Andy Claflin says he started using Bag Balm on a cross-country race last June, when a teammate turned him on to it for saddle sores.

Claflin, 37, from Dayton, Minn., was suffering from saddle sores as he competed in the Race Across America. A teammate told him it was good for the sores, a bane of long-distance biking. So he slathered some on, down below.

"I was sitting there in Arizona, it's 110 degrees, the air conditioning wasn't working, the crapper in the RV wasn't working, I gotta' bike 100 miles in this heat and great, I've got to deal with this," he said. "It was nasty and filthy and it felt weird ... But I didn't have saddle sores from then on, riding 130 miles a day. When you're on the bike, you're like 'Oh, this stuff is great.'"

Marge Boyle, 62, a quilter in Paducah, Ky., keeps a tin by her sewing machine.

"It's really a wonderful product when you're sewing, because of all the pinpricks you get. It soothes and heals your fingers. Quilters are always pricking their fingers. We wash our hands constantly to keep them free of dirt, and you need something to soothe them," she said.

And it's still de rigeur in barns, where it all started.

Dairy farmer Willie Ryan has used it since the '70s, to soothe the chapped teats of cows. And more.

"The cows get frostbit sometime, so we use the Bag Balm," said Ryan, 60, of Craftsbury, Vt. "Any open wound with swelling, you just put some of that in and put a pack bandage on it and it does wonders. Don't ask me how, but it does," he said.

For all its myriad uses, there's one place its makers say never to use it.

"Never put Bag Balm in your hair, because you will not get it out," said Wilkerson.