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Linstrum
01-01-2010, 06:39 AM
Back when I was a kid 50 years ago I used to see gigantic flower pots on street corners made out of old car tires that were turned inside out.

I tried it using 3/8" trucker's chains, my 30-ton log splitter, and my Cat D4D bulldozer to try pulling the bead through the rim hole, but couldn't get them to roll inside out.

Anybody know how on earth it is done?


rl697

Cap'n Morgan
01-01-2010, 06:55 AM
A Google search brought this up:
http://mercer.extension.psu.edu/Agriculture/TirePlanter.htm

stubshaft
01-01-2010, 08:21 AM
You take a tire mounted onto a rim. Cut the sidewall about half way from the bead to the tread. Grab the portion of the cut you just made and pull it toward the uncut side of the tire/rim assy.

Usually the rim portion is buried into the ground leaving the tire portion exposed.

WickedGoodOutdoors
01-01-2010, 02:43 PM
Americans dont do that anymore. Just send your old Tires to these guys and they will take care of it for you.


"Abdul the Shoemaker"shows an apprentice lad named Shami the art of crafting quality footwear from discarded American Infidel Automobile Tyres.
These fasionable qundara flooys will be sold under the Jazmah Brand Lable at finer Souoks everywhere.

http://www.kagnewstation.com/scrapbook/moulton/mekelle1.jpg

Marvin S
01-01-2010, 03:06 PM
WickedGood that is FUNNY! I would think gutting the bead out and the rim thing would sure do it.

shooterg
01-01-2010, 03:30 PM
I remember folks doing this on the rim when 50 years ago myself - was probably much easier before steel belted radial tires !

bohokii
01-01-2010, 04:13 PM
http://www.hollowtop.com/sandals.htm

WILCO
01-01-2010, 07:29 PM
Americans dont do that anymore.

Just wait. Plenty of Americans will be doing all kinds of things "that they don't do anymore" just to survive................

DLCTEX
01-01-2010, 09:57 PM
Some one was using tires for making salt and mineral feeders ( for livestock) and bolting plywood bottom in it. They were really durable an economical.

Charlie Sometimes
01-02-2010, 12:40 AM
They still got plenty of them tire planters in these parts- WV is full of them!

Linstrum
01-03-2010, 10:25 PM
Thanks, guys!

The inside-out tire flower pots I saw back 50 years ago didn't have one bead cut off like the Pennsylvania State University Extension article shows, the ones I saw a long time back were totally intact tires turned inside-out and stood about two feet tall. They looked exactly like ancient Greek wine amphoras and were much better looking than the one showed in the extension article, which looks kinda like a crappy old tire turned inside-out. I did see plenty of that kind with one bead cut off down in Tijuana, Mexico, back in the mid 1960s.

During the Vietnam War I had a buddy who was serving in-country in the U.S. Naval Construction Battalion as an electrician. One time on a night patrol around the compound perimeter where their hooches were, his patrol was shot up by VC. They returned fire, my buddy Carl had a selective fire M2 .30 carbine and he unloaded a full 30-round clip at one unlucky VC who showed himself. They cleaned up the mess to retrieve VC ordnance and Carl found one guy was carrying a K-Bar copy made from a Jeep spring and extra sandals made from Jeep tires with inner tube straps, which he brought home and showed to me. The sandals were very cleverly made and I made a pair for myself.

There is a method to my madness, I am trying to find a good way to utilize old tires to make outdoor storage for small size things like paint cans, weed killer, sacks of lawn fertilizer, and other supplies that just waste valuable space in my small workshop but can't be put directly outside without some protection from the sun and rain/snow. Old tires turned inside-out have lots of room inside and are easy to put a lid on made out of cement board or concrete stepping stones.


rl699

zuke
01-04-2010, 08:51 AM
I think the modern tire's are built a lot better now and with all the belt's and stuff inside them that's there to go only one way, you might be S.O.L.

richbug
01-04-2010, 09:21 AM
Some, if not all tires are made inside out, Through the tire companies have machines for turning them.

phaessler
01-04-2010, 09:55 AM
Some, if not all tires are made inside out, Through the tire companies have machines for turning them.


Worked in the tire industry close to 15 yrs in R&D/ Prodcution Engineering and Testing , never saw one made inside out and turned.

peter nap
01-04-2010, 10:08 AM
Loan it to my son and tell him NOT to turn it inside out!

richbug
01-04-2010, 12:18 PM
Worked in the tire industry close to 15 yrs in R&D/ Prodcution Engineering and Testing , never saw one made inside out and turned.

I toured a few plants when I used to sell tires. I clearly remember inside out tires. Are they inspected that way?

shotman
01-10-2010, 01:02 PM
Am I missing something??? how is an inside out tire any larger?? the bead will not get any bigger if both are intact. I am not from MO but I want to see one rick
This is about 12in deep and rim is under ground

Uncle R.
01-10-2010, 01:46 PM
When I was a young man I watched two guys turn a tire inside out. They used a big vise on a post and big pipe wrenches with cheater bars and pure wrasslin' muscle power. It was near 35 years ago and I wasn't really interested so I can't tell you much - just that they was a lot of grunting and cussing and pure gritty determination but they finally managed to do it. Why? They did it just because they were wondering how people made those planters - and if THEY could do it too.
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Uncle R.

RP
01-10-2010, 02:10 PM
i was thinking of the same thing but I did see a childs swing made out of a old tire cut all up to lool like a horse main body was the side walls. Oh when my brother was overseas he had a pair of boots made the guy measure his foot and hand sewed the leather use a tire for the soles. But as far as the turning one inside out I feel you age going to have to cut the bead on one side its steal and you need a saw saw and cable cutter well thats what I have used.

lead-1
01-10-2010, 05:43 PM
Loan it to my son and tell him NOT to turn it inside out!


Kind of reminds me of my oldest son, I always told him he could mess up a crowbar in a sandbox, LOL.

bohica2xo
01-10-2010, 05:59 PM
I suspect 40 years ago it was a damn bit easier to turn a tire inside out. Todays radial tires are much stronger.

Size matters a lot on something like this. It might be possible to turn an 1100-22 inside out, but I think trying the same trick on a 5.70x8 would be damn near impossible.

The OP's reason for wanting to do this puzzles me. I can buy clean poly open head drums locally for about 20 bucks. I simply store my stuff in regular old building space, but if I wanted dry outdoor storage I could move with a hand truck the poly barrel would be my first choice.

Old tires are just an all-around pain to me, and if you collect too many of them where I am at the county will be on your *** about it as well.

B.

Linstrum
01-13-2010, 07:55 AM
Here's a quick pen and ink drawing I just made from memory that shows the approximate shape of the planters I saw as a kid. I think they looked prettty nice.

My 1972 Caterpillar D4D bulldozer has got right around 15,000 pounds drawbar pull according to the performance graph Cat supplied in the owners manual, and that's plenty to turn a tire inside out IF, and a BIG IF, I can get all that OOOMPH going in the right places, which I haven't been able to do yet with several logging chains, chain binders, two 16-foot long 4" x 8" 'I' beams, two 4-foot long 4" x 4" 'I' beams, and my 30-ton Guillotine log splitter all working in various combinations of pulling and twisting. The photo is my Caterpillar D4D dozer with me standing next to it, I'm 6' 2" tall, so you can see it isn't exactly a Struck backyard mini-dozer. I tore up a few tires with it trying to get them inside out, too!

As far as appearance goes, the turned inside out tires I saw when I was a kid would not attract negative attention at all, like I mentioned in a previous post way up above, they looked just like ancient Greek wine amphoras and like the ancient containers they were painted an earthenware reddish brown and you couldn't tell that they were made from tires unless you looked inside one with the potting soil far enough down to expose the tread and something like "GOODYEAR 7.75-15 MAX INFLATION PRESSURE 32 PSI" on the sidewalls. They stood up about two feet tall on their own because of the stress of the rubber wanting to turn them back right-side-out.

Linstrum
01-13-2010, 08:31 AM
Yup, the poly drums, like the 35 and 60-gallon kinds that Roundup weed killer comes in, I used to get for free when I lived in Southern Cali-forlorn-ia in the Citrus Belt of Ventura County, but alas, here in New Mexico there aren't too many places around here that use weed killer in those amounts since weeds don't grow well in the gypsum that the White Sands of the Tularosa Basin are composed of. At $20 bucks a pop for containers, spending that would very quickly ruin paying for propane at $450 per month that this cold spell just yesterday afternoon took out of my lonely bank account (lonely for more $ to keep it company) and diesel fuel I need to survive; and worn out tires are, of course, FREE! I also think that a bunch of old, intact, right-side-out tires looks like one step removed from steaming heaps of horse apples and Obama's mindset, so if what I am after looked terrible I'd find another low cost alternative for exterior storage.


rl701

scrapcan
01-13-2010, 11:21 AM
Linstrum,

I sent you a pm with contact info for a guy in my area that does this. he may be willing to help you but i have not talked to him personally about this.

bohica2xo
01-13-2010, 02:25 PM
Linstrum:

There is no doubt you have enough force to do the job - you probably have enough to tear a tire in half.

Find a soft kid's toy with a tire on it. Start turning it inside out with your fingers. You will see immediately what you need. Or if you have one, a 20" or larger bicycle tire.

Do you have some big beam clamps / HD "C" clamps? Plenty of chain?

You need to pull the opposite side bead surface through the near side bead. On an angle. Without letting it get away from you & taking your head off...

Good luck & be safe.

B.

Linstrum
01-14-2010, 02:26 PM
Hey, thanks, bohica2xo, a scooter tire of the same proportions as a car tire is probably what I have on hand.

That would be the pits after all these years of shooting to get my head taken off by a tire!


rl704

bcp
02-10-2010, 02:29 AM
They make it sound easy. I can't understand it.
http://allgardenplanters.com/how-to/tire-planter-garden-wont-flat/

Youíll need to remove any leftover air from the tire. Next, youíll need to turn the tire inside out. You can do this by planting your foot on the bottom and pulling at the top from the far side. Next, place your other foot on the tire and hold down the flattened edge at the bottom with this foot. Now, push the tire over and pull from the opposite side. If your tire is soft enough, it should turn inside out fairly easily. Believe it or not, thatís all it takes!


These are better looking than the usual ones. They seem to be seamed.
http://shop.theurbangarden.co.uk/recycled_and_eco_friendly/107_0c.html
http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/02/10/recycled-tire-planter/

Bruce

Bullshop Junior
02-10-2010, 03:17 AM
Do you want it on or off of the rim?

Note - If you can use 1-3 Ply tires. 10 ply are hard to do.