short eval of 2 lee 45acp boolits

[mike in co]

i had mentioned on an earlier post that i was not happy with the lee 228 boolit. this was a simple issue in that the oal had to be 1.200 to work in both of my guns(cz97b and a para 1911 gi). so i tried this load and got reasonable /predictable results, but i think it is silly to load this short for the 45acp. i was sent some additional boolits to try, the 230 truncated cone and the 230 tl rn bb.
the truncaated cone ended up having the same issue as the 228 rn....short oal to work. the 230 tl rn bb is a bit heavy in the alloy i rec's(237), but has the reduced dia nose that allows loaded at 1.250 oal....i just "feel" better witht the longer oal...what can i say.

so all functioned well . i will be selling my like new lee 6c 228 rn, replacing it with the lee 6c 230 tl rn bb.

as a side note i cut my felix lube 50% with bee's wax, and the formula worked well with a ton less chamber/action residue.

mike in co

[Shiloh]

My LEE .452 TLTC mold works fine, no functioning issues at all. It doe drop a boolit at 238 gr. It is one that I will have the Bevel Base machined off of.

Shiloh

[HammerMTB]

Something I have noticed about my Lee TC boolits:
Both (.40 and .45) taper the TC to full diameter. Thus, they need to be seated all the way to the TC taper to feed right. Otherwise, the full diameter will interfere in the bbl throat, and the slide/bolt won't close.
It would be great if they had a small diameter change right at the seating depth, kind of like a SWC, so the OAL would be closer to SAAMI max.
But they seem to work, just shorter than the max OAL's called for in the books. :Fire:

[35remington]

I suppose it depends upon the throating you have. My 1911's will allow 1.220" with the Lee 228-1R, and about 1.230" with the Lee truncated cone 230. I load my 230-2R's to 1.265."

My Ruger P97's a bit shorter throated, and I have to take ten to fifteen thou off the OAL of the first two bullets but nothing off the 2R.

[mike in co]

yes...all three work..but at different oal's and its just me i want a long oal....that works in both guns.

mike in co

[35remington]

Can't say as I blame you there....that 228-1R has to be seated fairly deeply in the case at 1.200."

I bet you get a pretty fair velocity with only a modest charge of powder. With the lesser amount of case space and all.

Maybe it's throatn' time?

[tactikel]

The lack of SWC "shoulder" on the TC boolit means if feeds perfectly in my XD-45. An idosyncracy of the XD-45 is that the boolit shoulder hangs up on the rim of the case being ejected and jams the pistol. The gun feeds any non shouldered boolit (JHP, ball, TC) flawlessly. I had a Lee 230gr RN mold and gave it to a friend with a 1911.

[mpmarty]

+1 on the XD problem tacktical. This is a known idiosyncrasy of all the XD pistols, they don't shoot semi wad cutters worth a darn. I happily shoot mine with a LEE 230gr TL TC boolit shot as cast with LLA and no sizing. They work great and no leading at all. I load them at a 2.68 oal.

[mike in co]

+1 on the xd problem tacktical. This is a known idiosyncrasy of all the xd pistols, they don't shoot semi wad cutters worth a darn. I happily shoot mine with a lee 230gr tl tc boolit shot as cast with lla and no sizing. They work great and no leading at all. I load them at a 2.68 oal.

2.68 ????

[Bloodman14]

Marty, I think you may want to recalibrate your micrometer! Or put your glasses on the right way!

[sdelam]

The lack of SWC "shoulder" on the TC boolit means if feeds perfectly in my XD-45. An idosyncracy of the XD-45 is that the boolit shoulder hangs up on the rim of the case being ejected and jams the pistol. The gun feeds any non shouldered boolit (JHP, ball, TC) flawlessly. I had a Lee 230gr RN mold and gave it to a friend with a 1911.


I had the same problems with my Glock 36. Anything with a shoulder will not work. I tried the 228-1R and did not like how short it was. I use the 230-2R for my 1911's and switched to a 452-374 for the glock (with after market barrel, calm down). I still have some issues but the are minor. I just cant seem to get the case bouth to bell enough to keep from trimming a bit of lead during seating. evan after sizing to .452, oh well

[mpmarty]

OOPS[smilie=b:
Sorry for the recto cranial inversion on the OAL of my 45acp reloads.
How 'bout 1.268?

[Marlin Hunter]

Something I have noticed about my Lee TC boolits:
Both (.40 and .45) taper the TC to full diameter. Thus, they need to be seated all the way to the TC taper to feed right. Otherwise, the full diameter will interfere in the bbl throat, and the slide/bolt won't close.


That is good to know