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Wally
12-23-2009, 10:37 AM
Was wondering if anyone has compared these two .44 Caliber gas check bullets and determined how they perform in the .44 Spl & .44 Mag. Was looking to use it for plinker loads of 900 FPS in the .44 Spl and 1,000 FPS in the .44 Magnum using Bullseye or HP-38 powder. As I now can make my own gas checks, I want to use them more than I had in the past.

Eutectic
12-23-2009, 11:36 AM
Wally,

I've cast and shot both boolits quite a bit. I prefer the heavier #429244. This said, I have always used them full power because of the gascheck and also having several .44 molds in plain base for lighter loads. With you making your own gaschecks, I see #429215 being a good choice with your lighter loads as it is accurate and lead would go farther with recoil more pleasant.

Eutectic

Blammer
12-23-2009, 01:43 PM
for the lighter velocity I'd go with the 429215, uses less lead, easy on the recoil dept and should be pleanty accurate enough.

Wally
12-23-2009, 02:03 PM
Wally,

I've cast and shot both boolits quite a bit. I prefer the heavier #429244. This said, I have always used them full power because of the gascheck and also having several .44 molds in plain base for lighter loads. With you making your own gaschecks, I see #429215 being a good choice with your lighter loads as it is accurate and lead would go farther with recoil more pleasant.

Eutectic

Great---as it is accurate, that is all I need...I am weaning off the full power loads to save powder and my wrists..thanks...

Wally
12-23-2009, 02:03 PM
for the lighter velocity I'd go with the 429215, uses less lead, easy on the recoil dept and should be pleanty accurate enough.

Great---the lead savings is a full 25%...if it is accurate, I'll eb quite happy with using it...thanks...

Bret4207
12-23-2009, 02:34 PM
I've had a hard time finding a "fat" 215. The ones I find tend to drop boolits in the .429 area. Not good when you need at least .431.

Wally
12-23-2009, 02:39 PM
I've had a hard time finding a "fat" 215. The ones I find tend to drop boolits in the .429 area. Not good when you need at least .431.

No, that is not a good thing, as I need at least .430", even better at .431"....may have to enlarge the cavity a bit, should mine be undersized.

lwknight
12-23-2009, 03:41 PM
I have a 429215 and have not worked with it without the GCs. They made excellant plinkers in my SW29 but were rotton in the Ruger SBH
I quit casting with the 429215 just because its a single cavity.

Wally
12-23-2009, 03:53 PM
I have a 429215 and have not worked with it without the GCs. They made excellant plinkers in my SW29 but were rotton in the Ruger SBH
I quit casting with the 429215 just because its a single cavity.

I have both pistols as well...it'll be fun to try this bullet in them. If it only works well in the Mo 29, that will be ok with me...thanks... I am hoping it works well in my Model 24.

Dutchman
12-23-2009, 05:55 PM
I've cast both these for the S&W Model 29 and 429215 in the .444 Marlin long ago. Hands down 429244 wins every time. Its a great bullet. I used gaschecks on them for all loads just out of habit.

Dutch

Wally
12-23-2009, 06:04 PM
I have a .444 Marlin as well; it has never done well with light bullets. I am hoping the 429215 will work nicely in my .44 Cal pistols to save lead..

lwknight
12-23-2009, 06:12 PM
Wally, thats an indicator of our times. I've heard every reason to use lighter boolits except to save lead. Now thats a drag when we worry about lead sources!!

Wally
12-23-2009, 06:23 PM
Wally, thats an indicator of our times. I've heard every reason to use lighter boolits except to save lead. Now thats a drag when we worry about lead sources!!

Amen--yes indeed, it is a real shame---I now shoot more .22 LR than I have in many years as the scarcity of lead & primers have made it so...I even now shoot Pellet Rifles...

NHlever
12-23-2009, 10:04 PM
I've been thinking about buying a 429415 mold since the boolit shoots very well in the .44's I've tried it in, but I do worry some about getting a "small" mold.

Lloyd Smale
12-24-2009, 08:26 AM
Ive allways had a tad better luck with accuracy with the 429215 and its probably my favorite 44 specaial bullet. the 244 is a good shooter as well and probably a slightly better game bullet.

Bass Ackward
12-24-2009, 09:39 AM
Was wondering if anyone has compared these two .44 Caliber gas check bullets and determined how they perform in the .44 Spl & .44 Mag. Was looking to use it for plinker loads of 900 FPS in the .44 Spl and 1,000 FPS in the .44 Magnum using Bullseye or HP-38 powder. As I now can make my own gas checks, I want to use them more than I had in the past.



Well, if you are going to limit yourself to those two powders and that velocity limit, then I would go the 215. I shot a deer with it this year at 1000 fps and the slugs still going somewhere.

jlchucker
12-24-2009, 09:47 AM
Ive allways had a tad better luck with accuracy with the 429215 and its probably my favorite 44 specaial bullet. the 244 is a good shooter as well and probably a slightly better game bullet.

I like the 429215 as well. The mold I have is the first 44 mold that I bought when I first started casting. I load it in 44 magnum cases with 2400 powder, and it consistently gives tighter groups than heavier cast bullets when shot out of my 44 mag Winchester trapper. I've used this combo since acquiring my trapper in the mid-1980's, and have enjoyed countless hours of shooting, and consistently hitting, small clay pigeon fragments lying on the 100 yard berm of my gun club. I quit doing that when they built a bigger backstop out there, and rearranged the placement of the skeet range. Those fragments are no longer visible out there--or is it just my bifocals?

HamGunner
12-25-2009, 05:07 PM
Have not cast or shot the bigger gas checked bullet, but my 94 Win. with the microgroove barrel likes the 429215 just fine and it feeds great. My old model Ruger Blackhawk prefers my 429421.