Help me ID these rifles please

[Suo Gan]

My friend wants to buy these rifles, but is unsure of what they are. He sent this picture, but I cannot be sure either. Can anyone help me ID these rifles and maybe what their worth is? Thanks

[Deliverator]

Does he have pictures of serial numbers? The one on the left looks like a mauser action or a knock off of a mauser action such as a 1903 springfield.

[bubba.50]

on the left is mauser 98 or copy thereof. on the right is japanese arisaka either in 7.7mm or 6.5mm. both are about world war 2 era. for what it's worth, bubba.

[fishhawk]

left is a mauser but not sure its a 98......the right is a arisaka not sure of the caliber. steve k

[13Echo]

The rifle on the left is a Mauser 98. The cocking piece is distinctive. The Arisaka seems to be late war as the trigger guard seems to be stamped. It should be a 7.7mm.

Jerry Liles

[StarMetal]

The one is correctly identified as a 98 Mauser of some sort. The other is a 7.7 Arisaka. All the 7.7's had stamped trigger guards so that doesn't make it a late rifle.

Joe

[fishhawk]

thought the bolt handle on a 98 dropped into more of a notch than is shown here. thats what made me question if it is a 98. steve k

[Suo Gan]

Appreciate it guys, I'll let him know.

[Suo Gan]

A few more, but I know what these are. It is amazing at the amount of guns being sold right now.

[KCSO]

The left gun in the top photo's looks to be a shotgun, a GEHA bolt action mauser conversion. The plate coming over the action is the shell deflector for shotshells.

[Suo Gan]

The plate coming over the action is the shell deflector for shotshells.

That was what was throwing me. Is it a shotgun??

[deltaenterprizes]

The first one is a Mauser and the second one is a type 99 Japanese Ariska made in 1939.
The 03 Springfield would have a cocking knob on the back of the bolt. The Ariska has the big knob on the back, that is the safety, you push it with your palm and turn.
Mausers were made in various calibers and variations starting in 1871 to 1947. Common chamberings were 7mm Mauser and 8 mm Mauser. The 98 Mauser is the strongest and safest.
The Arisksa is most probably in 7.7 cal. The Ariska action is almost indestructable.

[Suo Gan]

Check this one out. Probably older than some of you guys :).

[Suo Gan]

I went to this auction. I did not want to but... I won the Arisaka for $60. I bought an Iver Johnson single shot break 12 for $35. I bought a beat to heck Marlin 22 for $60, and a really nice S&W K frame 38 spl snubby for $225. I passed on a pristine 94 win 30-30 w/o safety, it sold for $230:-( That was stupid. Pretty much like Christmas at the auction house tonight.
My buddy blew his wad on a $800 M1 Garand.
BTW the Mauser I was having a hard time iding was indeed a 410 shotgun. The old matchlock sold for $50.

[Suo Gan]

Not even one atta boy from y'all, I see how it goes. You guys are supposed to be in the Christmas spirit. Jealousy, Jealousy I tell you!

I am still kicking myself about that 94 though. I see they want about $600+ for them on gunbroker. The guy that bid against me and won it said that he didn't know why he bid on it as he had 11 more 94's at home...He was about 92 and had an oxygen tank. I wonder how many times he is gonna go out in the woods with it? Nice old guy though, a tail gunner on a B17.

[Hardcast416taylor]

I think you did just fine, I would have grabbed the `94 though. You did fine!Robert

[Nora]

To continue with the Arisaka. Have him look on the top of the receiver where the crest would be stamped. If it still has the chrysanthemum on it (the Emperor's family insignia), it would be a war trophy and would bring a better price to a collector if all else is still original. Those that have been imported have had it ground off.

Nora

[Suo Gan]

Nora, It has the flower, but has been sporterized. I can only assume that means it is probably worth less than what I paid for it. The bolt is extremely hard closing, I understand that it cocks on the downstroke...but it is beyond hard to do it. There must be something gumming it up. It is as homely as a mud fence, my favorite kind of gun.

[lead-1]

I'll give an "atta boy" and a thanks for the Mauser picture. I had never seen a Mauser turned into a shotgun, very interesting.

[jdgabbard]

I'll give an "atta boy" and a thanks for the Mauser picture. I had never seen a Mauser turned into a shotgun, very interesting.

That is a first for me too, and I pride myself on knowing military arms...

[DLCTEX]

My wife is glad I did not go to that auction, as are you, LOL. Merry Christmas!

[MilSurpFan]

Nora, It has the flower, but has been sporterized. I can only assume that means it is probably worth less than what I paid for it. The bolt is extremely hard closing, I understand that it cocks on the downstroke...but it is beyond hard to do it. There must be something gumming it up. It is as homely as a mud fence, my favorite kind of gun.

Ahh, yes... still has the mum you say. Well being the nice guy I could take that off your hands for what you've got in it -- out of the kindness of my heart. :)

Seriously though, if the metal is intact (barrel and bolt) and only the stock was cut you did OK on the Arisaka.

[MT Gianni]

I'll say it SUO GAN, Nice pick up on the K-frame snubbie, the rest is gravy.