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Scrounger
04-25-2005, 04:30 PM
Since this is off topic anyway, I guess it's ok to have two different subjects in one post.
1. Seems I remember one of the companies was loading 12 gauge shells with 3/4 oz of shot. But I can't find them listed anywhere. I have reloaded AAs with 3/4 oz and even 1/2 oz to get very light loads. Rather buy them than get into that again.
2. Lettuce always seems to spoil too quick, it 'rusts' and gets soggy. Yet the guy at the market keeps spraying water on it like it was going swimming or something. I asked him about it and he said it was good for it, kept it fresh. Inasmuch as he didn't know what a 'lettuce knife' was, I don't put much stock in his answers. Anybody here, other than CarpetMan and StarMetal, a produce expert?
StarMetal
04-25-2005, 06:19 PM
Art
Your lettuce question reminded me of contest rules. If someone affiliated with the company giving the contest, they weren't eligeable to enter. Guess since me and Carpetman are affiliated with produce we aren't allowed to answer.
Joe
Scrounger
04-25-2005, 08:42 PM
Art
Your lettuce question reminded me of contest rules. If someone affiliated with the company giving the contest, they weren't eligeable to enter. Guess since me and Carpetman are affiliated with produce we aren't allowed to answer.
Joe
Au Contraire! I was counting on answers from you two, but I hoped for some input from some of the others. Inquiring minds want to know...
carpetman
04-25-2005, 08:49 PM
This is highly technical and you aren't going to believe it--but it's true. You spray water on lettuce most likely to keep it from drying out. Now this is really complicated,but a lettuce knife is a knife used to cut lettuce. Some are made of plastic so as to not brown your lettuce and plastic ones don't rust. Do a google search and you can probably find one. Hope this helps.
NVcurmudgeon
04-25-2005, 10:30 PM
I knew Carpetman would have the answer to rusty lettuce, the steel knives! and here I thought it was all the water they sprayed on it at the store. Any idea why only the outer two layers of leaves are green and the rest are fish belly white? They'd be better off to bag and sell only the green leaves in the produce dept. They could then sell that white junk for mulch and save a lot of space that is being wasted storing inner lettuce leaves that nobody eats.
wills
04-26-2005, 04:33 AM
Next thing you know there will be a Lettuce Knife Control Inc. They’ll be complaining you can get these dangerous instruments anywhere, they are so cheap anyone can get one, that they cant be detected by airport metal detectors or x ray machines.Next thing you know there will be a Lettuce Knife Control Inc. They’ll be complaining you can get these dangerous instruments anywhere, they are so cheap anyone can get one, that they cant be detected by airport metal detectors or x ray machines.
You can take a head of lettuce and hit the stem briskly against the countertop and the stem will come right out of the head of lettuce and you can easily disassemble the whole thing.
http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jhtml?id=prod402139&CATID=100476&skuid=sku402140&V=G&ec=frgl_834580
C1PNR
04-26-2005, 06:46 PM
Been using one of them "invisible to metal detector" Tupperware lettuce knives since even before we went to California. Also use the "hit the stem against the corner of the countertop" method when the lettuce knife is out of sight.
A friend from hunting camp in King City is a grower for Foxy brand lettuce, among other things. He'd come down on Friday evening and bring a case or two of lettuce picked earlier that day. He showed us the best way to eat Fresh Lettuce.
Cut in half with a knife, reach into the center and pull out those oh so tender "white" leaves. Eat them and throw the rest out for bait for the wild pigs. I have to agree, those center leaves from FRESH lettuce are really good! Leave your salad dressing at home!
A bit pricey these days, though.
sundog
04-26-2005, 07:24 PM
Best part of a stalk of celery is way down on the inside, the little faded short stalks with the leaves on them. Eat leaves and all. Man, talk about tasty! Best part to flavor soup, but I usually eat them and they never get to the pot.
I grew up on Long Island, and I can remember when the farmers couldn't get a decent price at the cauliflower block they trucked it home and dumped it. Pure white cauliflower! And cabbage, too. Crates full of it. Talk about stink later in the summer. Best potatoes in the world, too, but I understand that the nematodes took there toll. Y'all ever seen a potato house?
Best lettuce is cold wx leaf lettuce. Same for brocolli and a few other really good veggies, like kolrobi. Hard to grow here, because it usually get too warm too fast.
Best way to cut head lettuce and have it last that I ever found is one of those plastic lettuce cutters.
Almost forgot the spinach growers, too. Ever had FRESH spinach?
Don't have nothin' to say about 12 guage shells. Stayed on topic though, lettuce and 12 guage. Wonder what would happen if you shot a head a lettuce with a 12 guage? One yard? Five yards? Ten yards? See where I'm going? Be kinda messy, huh? sundog
edit: Instead of "pull it" the call would be "toss it". HAR!
Oldfeller
04-26-2005, 07:48 PM
Restauraunts have caught on to the joy of lettuce, they now offer a "lettuce wedge" which is a quarter head of lettuce still in the block with ranch or blue cheese poured over it for the same price as a simple tossed salad. My wife will order a blue cheese wedge and only be able to eat the center portion of it, so I have to help her out with the other 2/3 of the wedge. Plain lettuce is pretty good stuff, especially with a little blue cheese dressing on it. You cut it with a knife like it was a roast and eat it speared on the fork that held it while you cut it. Yummmy stuff, the crisp thick texture of the tightly packed block lettuce with that strong flavoring dribbled down inside the layers is excellent.
Damn if you lettuce heads haven't gone and given me a lettuce munchie attack at 11:00 at night...
shame on you
Oldfeller
KYCaster
04-26-2005, 09:48 PM
A good friend of mine was a "lettuce knife" collector. Before stainless steel, before plastic, they were made of glass. He put a couple out on his table at the gun shows and before you know it he had the foremost glass knife collection in the country. I don't know if he started it or if he just lucked into something that was already going but he accumulated hundreds of them, many with original boxes and instructions. He finally sold his entire collection to another collector who started into it after he sold his grandmothers knives to my friend. I'm afraid to guess how much money he made off "lettuce knives".
Now he's into glass canes (as in walking sticks). Seems like the people who worked in the glass factories would make these canes on their lunch breaks and compare them at the end of the week. The ones that were judged the best were given away as gifts and the rest were broken. You have to see them to believe what those guys made just for braggin' rights. If you have a couple hunnert to spare I can put you on to a deal that will look real spiffy with your wing tip shoes and Panama hat!
Jerry
Buckshot
04-27-2005, 12:33 AM
..............I only eat plain iceburg lettuce. Except I will put a bit of 1000 Island or Bleu Cheese on it. Some croutons, shredded cheese, some cottage cheese, couple sliced tomatos, maybe some hard boiled egg. Other then that, it's plain.
............Buckshot
9.3X62AL
04-27-2005, 02:54 AM
Lettuce........in 1979 I spent a couple weeks in Blythe riding herd on Cesar Chavez's refried sandinistas during the lettuce strikes that took place in the Palo Verde and Imperial Valleys that year. I recall the comment made by one grower during that time--"If we could just get American housewives to buy lettuce in a plastic bag instead of in a whole head, these Communist SOB's would be over with tomorrow." Dunno about that, but during that little interlude I saw the telling effect that video recording had on potential crime occurrence. MANY times, in both rural and small town settings where unionists and non-union workers were pending knife and club assaults, we would just show up with video cameras rolling. The suspects didn't know what to do at all--kinda like bringing an M-249 to the Battle of Hastings.
3/4 oz shotshell loads.......my favorite tool for those is in 28 gauge :-) The pattern efficiency of that load is incredible.
The trapsnots at the club Buckshot and I shoot at use a lot of the 12 gauge 24 gram loads, since such things are all the rage at Euro venues and the Olympics. I think Fiocchi puts up loads with 7, 7-1/2, and 9 shot--but these are likely to be rather pricey and not found at Wal-Mart. When a shellmaker knows he's assembling fodder for a fool who spends $10K on a shotgun, I can't blame him for running the meter a little faster. I still get a kick out of whupping them cats with my 300 dollar 870 and home-rolled AA's.
Ballistics in Scotland
04-29-2005, 03:15 AM
The humble lettuce, like other living things, evolves by playing its own game in its own interests, and natural evolution in the interests of others would cause Darwin's theory to fall down altogether. Chlorophyl is a substance which enables the plant to derive benefit from sunlight, so why would it waste good chlorophyl where the light doesn't reach.
Farmers, however, select plants for parenthood or an early opening in the food business, just the way they do animals. No doubt they've made lettuces green to an increased depth, but there is a limit to what they can do so far. Artificial evolution also goes wrong a lot more often than the natural sort. There are more gundog puppies which crunch hard, than sentimental leopards.
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