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the_ursus
12-02-2009, 12:25 AM
My .350 is my "go to" rifle here in SE Alaska. Is there anyone casting for this cartridge that has a favorite hunting load? I shoot a model 700 would like to find a bullet in the 250-300gr range that will help fill the length of the magazine box (which isn't asking much:smile:). I have a few bullets my dad cast up for me in the lower 200 grain range but they could be a little longer to reduce the empty space (head space?) in the chamber.

Luke

softpoint
12-02-2009, 12:49 AM
I have a pair of .358 winchesters and a .350 Rem . My .350 is a Remington 700 Classic. I've used 200 gr .RCBS, 245 Saeco, and the 280 grain Lyman 358009. The 280 grain is the most accurate in both my 358 Winchesters, but I haven't played with it much in the .350. The 200 RCBS and the 245 Saeco are about a tie, so I was using the Saeco before I got the Lyman 358009. The Saeco is a very good boolit for your rifle, in my opinion.
The Saeco is usually readily available from reloading suppliers, The .358009 molds have been discontinued years ago and bring a premium price. If you are willing a short wait you can get a custom mold maker to cut you a copy for about the same money.
For the dollar, I'd say Saeco, For the best heavyweight performance, the 280 grain #358009. but those will give your wallet a lobotomy.:mrgreen:

felix
12-02-2009, 01:09 AM
Typical Remmie twist is 16, and would be too slow for anything over 250 grains beyond say 100 yards. ... felix

Bullshop
12-02-2009, 01:20 AM
We have a fairly new design for 35 cal rifle.
In WW alloy it will go about 275gn. We designed it on the order of the Lyman target design with a tapered section to better fit a verity of barrel dimensions.
So far we have tried it in 357 Herrett, 35 Rem, 358 Win, 9x57 Mauser, 35 Whelen, 350 Rem mag(Rem mod 7), and 358 Norma mag.
It has proven an outstanding design for all. The 350Rem mag got 2400 fps with very good accuracy. If you would like a sample let us know.
We do have the spec sheet so anyone wanting to duplicate the mold can do so.
My son used it this year to take a very nice 50" class moose. Rifle was a Interarms MkX 35 Whelen Imp. One shot is all that was needed.
BIC/BS

rbuck351
12-02-2009, 01:36 AM
I have a group buy NOE 358009 mold on order which is supposed to be an exact copy of the original. Cost was very reasonable. $80 delivered for a 2 cav with top punch and some bullplate lube. NOE will have the cherry when this GB is done and might be talked into indivdual orders. This is a long boolit and may not stabilize unless pushed hard or with a faster twist barrel. It will certainly take up more space than a 200gr. I am going to try it in a 350 Rem and a 358 Norma. I'm pretty sure it will work in the Norma and am hoping it will also work in the 350 Rem. The mold should be here in Jan and I could send you some to try before you order a mold. I would think the Saeco 245gr would be a better weight for the 350Rem but who knows. The 200gr RCBS works very well in my 35Rem but is a little light for the 350.

SethD
12-02-2009, 01:44 AM
We have a fairly new design for 35 cal rifle.
In WW alloy it will go about 275gn. We designed it on the order of the Lyman target design with a tapered section to better fit a verity of barrel dimensions.
So far we have tried it in 357 Herrett, 35 Rem, 358 Win, 9x57 Mauser, 35 Whelen, 350 Rem mag(Rem mod 7), and 358 Norma mag.
It has proven an outstanding design for all. The 350Rem mag got 2400 fps with very good accuracy.


Bullshop, did this bullet in the 350 fit in the magazine of that model 7? I have a 673 which is the model 7 action and even 250gr bullets have to be seated pretty deep.

rbuck351
12-02-2009, 01:51 AM
I have a group buy NOE 358009 mold on order which is supposed to be an exact copy of the original. Cost was very reasonable. $80 delivered for a 2 cav with top punch and some bullplate lube. NOE will have the cherry when this GB is done and might be talked into indivdual orders. This is a long boolit and may not stabilize unless pushed hard or with a faster twist barrel. It will certainly take up more space than a 200gr. I am going to try it in a 350 Rem and a 358 Norma. I'm pretty sure it will work in the Norma and am hoping it will also work in the 350 Rem. The mold should be here in Jan and I could send you some to try before you order a mold. I would think the Saeco 245gr would be a better weight for the 350Rem but who knows. The 200gr RCBS works very well in my 35Rem but is a little light for the 350.

Glen
12-02-2009, 01:57 AM
I have a Rem 660 .350 Rem Mag and have gotten very poor results with my 358009 in it. HOWEVER, the Saeco 245 absolutely drives tacks over 45.0 grains of 4895 (2150 fps), and would be a load that I would be comfortable hunting an awful lot of critters with.

Ben
12-02-2009, 12:17 PM
We have a fairly new design for 35 cal rifle.
In WW alloy it will go about 275gn. We designed it on the order of the Lyman target design with a tapered section to better fit a verity of barrel dimensions.
So far we have tried it in 357 Herrett, 35 Rem, 358 Win, 9x57 Mauser, 35 Whelen, 350 Rem mag(Rem mod 7), and 358 Norma mag.
It has proven an outstanding design for all. The 350Rem mag got 2400 fps with very good accuracy. If you would like a sample let us know.
We do have the spec sheet so anyone wanting to duplicate the mold can do so.
My son used it this year to take a very nice 50" class moose. Rifle was a Interarms MkX 35 Whelen Imp. One shot is all that was needed.
BIC/BS

Can you post a few pics of the bullet here ? ?

Ben

felix
12-02-2009, 12:47 PM
The sharper point afforded by the target design would ease the twist requirements making a 275 grain boolit feasible. Dan's design is worth a looksee for the 16 twisters. ... felix

sheepdog
12-02-2009, 12:50 PM
Typical Remmie twist is 16, and would be too slow for anything over 250 grains beyond say 100 yards. ... felix

Is that to say a 250 grain lubed and GC'd mould that weights around 256grains wouldn't be very accurate beyond a 100 yards?

felix
12-02-2009, 01:01 PM
That would be dependent on the nose shape and how centered everything was during ignition. Barrel vibes come into play as well. Shorter barrels allow more load variation for an acceptable accuracy at a given distance. ... felix

Beerd
12-02-2009, 01:57 PM
Bullshop, "We have a fairly new design for 35 cal rifle."



Can you post a few pics of the bullet here ? ?

Ben

Yes, there are more than a few here that like lookin' at new .35 cal boolits.
:lovebooli
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Bullshop
12-02-2009, 02:44 PM
I can not remember if it fit the mag of the Rem mod 7. The gun is not mine but belongs to a friend in Anchorage. He was here for the day and had the rifle with him so we tried some. I was very anxious to see how they would work in the 350 mag.
When we first started playing with this design we offered to send out some samples but there seemed to not be much interest. We sent out two samples and as I recall only one got back with us. He tried them in a 358 Win but I cant remember if it was a 1/14" or a 1/16" twist but I think it was 1/16"
He only fired squib loads I recall which was a disappointment. I cant remember the exact velocity but seem to remember it being somewhere about 1000 fps.
He did shoot a nice 100 yard group at about an inch but you could see that the boolits were tipping slightly the holes in the paper being oval.
Look like Felix is right about that 100 yard thingy. At some point not too much farther the group would have gone bad. More muzzle velocity would have extended that range but to how far I dont know.
These were wonderfully accurate out of a 10" 357 Herrett but so is the Lyman 280gn.
For some reason I always assume that folks will want to see what the top end of performance is as I do but I see that many want little to do with those loads. That was the disappointment with the 358 tester. If you remember who you are please jump in and fill in some details.
As for meplate I find that I like the long range performance I get when keeping the meplate at 60 to 65%. For hunting that seems to be plenty on a boolit of this weight that will be used at or well over 2000 fps.
The range for my sons moose was 156 yards and the damage was tremendous.
It was a slight down hill angle and the hit was just a little high for a lung shot. It did catch the spine and the top of the lungs. The moose dropped where he stood but the interesting part was that he did not thrash about on the ground at all. He did not move and was dead when we got to him. I was very amazed that there was no sign of him moving once he hit the ground.
A high lung shot that touches spine usually results in a paralyzed animal from the hit back but will thrash about with front legs until bled out and dies.
At the shot we both heard the loud SMAK of the boolit hitting and the moose instantly disappeared.
Anyway Jr. is not up yet so God willing when he is I will ask him to put up some pics.
BIC/BS

the_ursus
12-02-2009, 03:40 PM
I had not given enough thought to the rate of twist with heavy bullets. Lots of good info in the above posts and will give serious thought to the saeco 245 and bullshop's 275 mentioned. The bullets I have on hand to try are RCBS 200 FN. Hope to have some results to post soon.

sheepdog
12-02-2009, 04:19 PM
That would be dependent on the nose shape and how centered everything was during ignition. Barrel vibes come into play as well. Shorter barrels allow more load variation for an acceptable accuracy at a given distance. ... felix

I've got the Remington 600 with Remington brass. I haven't loaded any up some someone sent me some 250 grain gas checked boolits with a blunted spitzer type nose profile. I just want to know if these are going to be worth loading up. Trying to get an analog on par with Core-lokt factory loads as a practice before hunting season.

Bullshop Junior
12-02-2009, 08:26 PM
Here is a pic Dad asked me to post.


Bullshop 280gr LFN GC 35 Cal
http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr305/bullshopjunior/Stuff%20For%20Dad/IMG_0875.jpg

felix
12-02-2009, 08:33 PM
If they look similar to Dan's above, by all means load five at 2400 fps and have at it. That load offered by Glen looks right on. No 4895? 4064 should work about as well in that case. ... felix

Bullshop
12-02-2009, 09:34 PM
Its hard to see in this design but the ogive ends at about half the length of the bore ride section and from there it is a straight taper.
The front drive band also has some taper. The idea was to fit a wider range of barrel diameter variations and to easily get the nose started into the lands.
This design worked so well we are doing another in 375 cal at 370gn.
The 375 design will have a bit wider front drive band also with taper. We are waiting anxiously for the new 375 mold to arrive.
Now I am not sure but think no one asked for a sample of this 35 right?
If I am wrong please PM me.
BIC/BS

MarkP
08-09-2012, 10:36 PM
It may be a little late to reply to such an old thread but; Look at Accurate molds 360-250B & 360-270B; I designed these bullets for my 350 Rem Mag's ( (2)M Seven KS's, 673, XP100R) The 270 is around 273 gr lubed and checked and has dropped 2 American Bison in thier tracks. Shot from my XP100 R and 673. I have a triple cavity brass mold with (1) 250 gr cavity , (1) 270 cavity, and (1) tip cavity. I have had no problems stabilizing the 270's out any of the guns listed above even at relatively slow velocities. (all have 1:16 twists) I have one of the the M Seven KS's sighted in for Trailboss loads at 170 yds (probably about 1,200 fps still a pretty salty load if you think about it and compare to a 44 mag) and the other M Seven KS sighted for loads at around 2,200 fps (273 gr) at the same distance. Both bullets will shoot as well as jacketed bullets. Consistant groups of 2.5" at 170 yds from all guns. Have shot several under 2". The hotter loads out of a 5.75 lb rife are not real fun to shoot from a bench after a few (5) shot groups. The heal of the 273 gr bullet is below the neck shoulder junction but still shoots very well.

captaint
08-10-2012, 08:26 AM
I got my slightly used 700 Classic in 350 Mag at a gun show, reasonable. Apparently the original buyer paid for the gun, went outside to their range, shot 2 rounds and went back inside and said "so, what else do you have that I can trade this in on" ??? HaHa...enjoy Mike

bobthenailer
08-10-2012, 11:13 AM
My 350 mag has a Shilen barrel and 1 in 14 twist the only cast bullet ive tried is the RCBS 200 gr fn gc rifle bullet and it shoots pretty well at 100 yards.