Lee 200 SWC TL in an XD .45?

[prickett]

All,
I'm new to casting and am looking to buy molds. I'd like to cast 200 gr bullets. The only problem is that my Springfield XD .45 doesn't seem to like SWC's. And, Lee molds - for tumble lube - only have the SWC form factor, not a RNFP (which the Springfield does like).

Do any of you casters out there cast for Springfield XD .45's with the Lee 200 gr. SWC and have it feed? It seems more rounded than the SWC's I've bought locally. I'm wondering if that would allow them to function better. I'd hate to buy a mold, only to have it not feed.

TIA

[ANeat]

I never had any luck with SWC in XD's . The next round coming up in the mag would get hit by the case being ejected and tear up the brass and bullet.

Going to a RN or TC style bullet solves any problems.

Lee makes a 200gr RNFP that would probably work great, They also make a 160 gr

Also, Welcome to the site ;)

[prickett]

I never had any luck with SWC in XD's . The next round coming up in the mag would get hit by the case being ejected and tear up the brass and bullet.

Going to a RN or TC style bullet solves any problems.

Lee makes a 200gr RNFP that would probably work great, They also make a 160 gr

Also, Welcome to the site ;)

Thanks for the quick answer. That is exactly the problem I had - the loading round catching the outgoing case.

I saw Lee has a 200 gr RNFP, but prefer a tumble lube configured bullet if possible.

[RobS]

If you want a tumble lube design then you will have to step up in weight and go with the lee truncated 230 grainer actully closer to 240 grains if memory serves me right.

I had tried the 200 SWC TL and it did not function with at least 3 or 4 hang ups per 13 round magazine and then I tried the 230 grain TL 2RN and although better reliability in the XD with one or two hang ups every magazine. These all caught up with the exiting of spent case on the edge of the bullet shoulder as you described.

The TC is the only Lee mold that will feed 100% reliability in the tumble lube series at least with my XD, and at a shorter than normal COL; I seated mine at 1.19. On the other hand if you don't want the TL the Lee 200 RNFP runs smooth and flawlessly through the XD and weighs in at about 210 grains.

[SciFiJim]

I tumble lube the Lee 200gr RNFP. You don't have to have tumble lube design boolits to use Alox. Alox came first, then tumble lube design. Also, make sure to go with a very light coat of Alox or mix it 50/50 with Johnson Paste Wax (JPW).

[ANeat]

Yep; just tumble lube the 200 RNFP like Jim said...

[prickett]

Yep; just tumble lube the 200 RNFP like Jim said...

Thanks for the info everyone! Saved me from throwing some bucks down the drain.

Where do you live in SW Ohio ANeat? I'm in West Chester (north Cinci)

[ANeat]

Im about an hour from you, out past Batavia close to Adams County.

There are a few guys on here from the Cincy area

[d_striker]

Awww cr*p....I just ordered a TL401-175-SWC for my XDm .40.

ETA-It looks pretty close to a TC bullet...

http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/l410175s.gif

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Personally for a picky 45 I would use a Lyman 452374. These boolits weigh around 225gr and the nose profile practically duplicates the standard 230gr FMJ. If you want to stick with 200gr boolits you could try a HP version of the 452374. Or you could try Lee’s 200gr RNFP mould, these boolits are designed for revolvers, but they work in my 1911s.

I would be more then willing to trade you some boolits to sample, I have both the Lyman 452374, and the Lee RNFP 200gr. PM me if interested.

[Recluse]

Thanks for the quick answer. That is exactly the problem I had - the loading round catching the outgoing case.

I saw Lee has a 200 gr RNFP, but prefer a tumble lube configured bullet if possible.

You can tumble-lube boolits with traditional lube grooves--and be quite successful with it.

One of my best shooting boolits was the Lee 200SWC in which I tumble-lubed it in a JPW/LLA/MS mix. Extreme accuracy and a shiny bore.

But, as others have said, with that XD, the pointy nose thing might give you some problems. Try the TC.

And don't let non-micro band boolits scare you away if you want to tumble-lube.

:coffee:

[gasboffer]

I've got a Glock 36. It malfunctions with Lee 200 SWC, 200 RNFP, 230 TC, 230 RNTL, and Lyman 200 SWC. Operates perfectly with Rem. 230 HP fact. I've ordered a Lee 230 1R RN. Pray for me. By the way, my DW CBOB feeds all these bullets without a hiccup.

[ANeat]

Yea the G36 has a reputation for being bullet picky, a lot going on in a little package

Many times you can adjust the OAL on the RN and get them to work

[2ndAmendmentNut]

I've got a Glock 36. It malfunctions with Lee 200 SWC, 200 RNFP, 230 TC, 230 RNTL, and Lyman 200 SWC. Operates perfectly with Rem. 230 HP fact. I've ordered a Lee 230 1R RN. Pray for me. By the way, my DW CBOB feeds all these bullets without a hiccup.

That is interesting. My friend has a DW, it is only about 80% with SWC, will not chamber a RNFP, but works without a problem using a Lyman 452374.

[cptinjeff]

"I've got a Glock 36. It malfunctions with Lee 200 SWC, 200 RNFP, 230 TC, 230 RNTL, and Lyman 200 SWC. Operates perfectly with Rem. 230 HP fact. I've ordered a Lee 230 1R RN. Pray for me. By the way, my DW CBOB feeds all these bullets without a hiccup."

The SWC will not feed reliably in my glock....but the TC will feed 100% only when sized to .451. .452 will not chamber 100%....more like 70-80% (slide very slightly open ) . just a thought.

btw, I use a lone wolf barrel but the dummy rounds act the same in the factory barrel.

[mpmarty]

My XD-45 eats the Lee tumble lube 230gr truncated cone boolit like candy. This over about 4.5gr of red dot is one accurate load and works in my 1911s and Sig just fine. My carry piece wont even feed the first round out of the magazine but works with 200 gr semi wad cutters just fine. Guess I'll stay with my Barnes solid copper flying ash trays in the little carry 45 as they have never failed to feed, fire and eject and I only have to cast one .452 boolit for all my other guns.