Any interest in a 32 Mag GB mould RCBS SWC or WC

[475/480]

This is the mould Lloyd Smale mentioned in an earlier thread ,I would Honcho if we have enough people,we will have to decide RCBS 98 gr SWC or WC.
What does everyone think?If we dont have 25 people do we want to go ahead anyway at a higher per- mould price.
We would need a drawing.


Sean

[Dr. A]

I was in on the 32 cal. 120gr. that seemed to go fast. It has worked well.

I shoot mine in a 32 mag, and would also be interested in this bullet if like the RCBS semiwadcutter.

[Dutch4122]

A design like the RCBS semi-wadcutter gets my vote, 98-100 grains sounds just right.

[45 2.1]

A drawing is possible. Exactly what diameter is wanted? The SWC shoots farther accurately than the WC does though. Do you want the boolit improved or as is?

[Catshooter]

You know the other day I realized we didn't talk about a .32 (45 2.1 & I). I think it's a great idea.

45 2.1 has to be 'the' Keith expert now, if you want a Keith, he's your man. I'd buy one for sure.


Cat

[475/480]

Hi 45 2.1,
I assume the SWC as is should work good at 100gr or so,dia-.316 with WW does that diameter leave room for Lee .I think we need at least .314?? I am open to suggestions.


Sean

[Dale53]

I would be interested in the RCBS wadcutter. My thinking is the 120 GB is doing everything that I need doing for a "performance" bullet in my .32 mags (including revolvers, Contenders, and TC 22" Carbine). Whoever did that design, did well!!

However, I use a LOT of .38 wadcutters shooting paper at 25 and 50 yards and the .32 could use a wadcutter for that purpose.

My Group Buy 120 gr. RF comes out of the mould at .315". That is working extremely well for me. I would like .314" or .315" for the wadcutter.

You might consider doing one of each. That could work. I am really amazed at all of the interest in the .32 H&R Mag. Really puts a smile on my face - I flat like the little suckers:drinks:

FWIW
Dale53

[45 2.1]

My thinking is the 120 GB is doing everything that I need doing for a "performance" bullet in my .32 mags (including revolvers, Contenders, and TC 22" Carbine). Whoever did that design, did well!! Dale53

I did Dale, Thank You.

Hi 45 2.1,
I assume the SWC as is should work good at 100gr or so,dia-.316 with WW does that diameter leave room for Lee .I think we need at least .314?? I am open to suggestions. Sean

I have both the SWC & WC RCBS boolits. The SWC, while OK could use some improvement in design in my opinion. 0.316" diameter is ok, but slightly large in my opinion also. Spec'd at 0.315" and getting that should work well. Why don't you let me draw up a design and see what everyone thinks?

Keith didn't design a 32 boolit as he was quite happy with the 3118 as it was.

[475/480]

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I have both the SWC & WC RCBS boolits. The SWC, while OK could use some improvement in design in my opinion. 0.316" diameter is ok, but slightly large in my opinion also. Spec'd at 0.315" and getting that should work well. Why don't you let me draw up a design and see what everyone thinks?

Sounds like a good plan,thanks

Sean

[boogerred]

wow!i would love a SWC that dropped at least .314+ with WWs. count me in,boss! boogerred

[Newtire]

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I have both the SWC & WC RCBS boolits. The SWC, while OK could use some improvement in design in my opinion. 0.316" diameter is ok, but slightly large in my opinion also. Spec'd at 0.315" and getting that should work well. Why don't you let me draw up a design and see what everyone thinks?

Sounds like a good plan,thanks

Sean
I'm down for a SWC mould that drops them at .315". I have the RCBS 32-98 & would sure love a 6-banger in this one.

[klausg]

I'd be interested in a .315 SWC; I'll keep checking this thread for further info.

-SSG Klaus

[Lloyd Smale]

Id take 3 of them if they were indentical to the rcbs bullet. This 98 grain swc is basically a cute little kieth and it is the most consistanly accurate 32 handgun bullet ive ever used. It shoots great in every .32 ive got. Its just a pain in the but to cast in a 2 cavity mold.

[Dr. A]

Anybody know if that 98gr. RCBS works through a lever? I need at least .314.

I have a 94 in 357, and it cycles Keiths just fine, but I've heard not all of them do. Never tried it in my Marlin 94 32 mag.

What sort of improvements does the RCBS need?

[R.M.]

I'm in the process of rebarreling both my wife's and my Walther GSP .32 S&W Long. The original barrels loved the Lee 85gr TL waddcutter. Once I get these 2 barrels, I'll have to find out what bullet they like. I've gone to a faster twist, so I'm going to have to wait, but once I do find the bullet it likes best, I'd definitely be interested in a 6 banger, as we go through quite a few of these little pills. :Fire:

R.M.

[45 2.1]

Id take 3 of them if they were indentical to the rcbs bullet. This 98 grain swc is basically a cute little kieth and it is the most consistanly accurate 32 handgun bullet ive ever used. It shoots great in every .32 ive got. Its just a pain in the but to cast in a 2 cavity mold.

Lloyd-
What kind of accuracy does great entail? I have never gotten this boolit to shoot better than 1 1/2" at 25 yds. My other boolits will beat it handily.

[Newtire]

The RCBS drops from my mould at .315" and that seems to fit the cylinder mouth of my pistol perfect. Think I have the fit thing right with pistol bullets? should be as big as the cylinder mouth right?

[45 2.1]

Here is something to look at:

[475/480]

Thanks 45 2.1,
All look good, I would prefer one of the middle boolits, 98 SWC or 98 K.

Sean

[Newtire]

Thanks 45 2.1,
All look good, I would prefer one of the middle boolits, 98 SWC or 98 K.

Sean

Here Here...I second that emotion. That Front Drive Band ought to make contact a little sooner before the boolit has a chance to get up any speed. Like the weight!

[Dutch4122]

The more I look at it the more I like that 32-98-K. Great job 45 2.1! Sure is nice to see them all together for comparison.

[Catshooter]

Yep, 98 K for me too, I'm such a sucker for a real Keith boolit!


Cat

[boogerred]

98k for me.ive had good results with different weights of keith bullets in my 357.as long as it will drop .314+ with WWs.

[Dale53]

I would go for either the 98 Keith or the 98 RF. I much prefer the crimp groove on those two. I don't have a Cowboy lever gun in this caliber but if I did I would definitely go for the 98 RF. It should function well in the Marlin. The Keith may or may not.

So, final with me is I will go with either the Keith or RF.

Dale53

[Lloyd Smale]

my old single six birdshead would shoot it into an inch. My sp101 will do 3/4 of an inch. Terry Merbach bumbed a bunch from me and said his 4 smiths two in .32 special and two in 32 mag all shoot it into an inch. My buddy Al has a buckeye and said that with 32 mags it will go under an inch and just slightly over with the 3220. Now one thing you cant expect the first load you throw together to shoot an inch in any handgun. It takes a little work. But this bullet seems to work well with aa9 and lilgun on the heavy side and with bullseye on the light for me. One thing to keep in mind with the .32s is ive allways had a little better luck with them cast a little hard. In my guns i cast them out of 5050 ww/lyno and size to .312 A good starting load is either 9.5 grains of surplus wc820 or the same of lilgun. One more thing thats odd looking at my .32 data is that mag powders with 820 and lilgun have allways gave me alot bettter accuracy then standard.
Lloyd-
What kind of accuracy does great entail? I have never gotten this boolit to shoot better than 1 1/2" at 25 yds. My other boolits will beat it handily.

[Bodydoc447]

count me in on the 98 K or 98 SWC design.

Doc

[klausg]

Another vote for the 98 K

-SSG Klaus

[Dale53]

How many have we got on the list? I'm ready to go...:-D

Dale53

[475/480]

How many have we got on the list? I'm ready to go...:-D

Dale53

Good point,It doesn't look like we have 25 though? Lets give it till this friday and then decide which mould .

Sean

[Newtire]

I would go for either the 98 Keith or the 98 RF. I much prefer the crimp groove on those two. I don't have a Cowboy lever gun in this caliber but if I did I would definitely go for the 98 RF. It should function well in the Marlin. The Keith may or may not.

So, final with me is I will go with either the Keith or RF.

Dale53

I definitely agree with Dale 53 on the Round/Flat design as I'll bet the leverguns will love it. as for the Keith design, my bigger Marlin is finicky about feeding the SWC designs but eats up the round or round/flat ones.

[GregP42]

Good point,It doesn't look like we have 25 though? Lets give it till this friday and then decide which mold .

Sean


ARGH!! I wish this wasn't right now..... Anyone want to buy my barracuda project car? Then I can replace the hot water heater... and buy a few more molds, and powder, primers, grrr owning your own home is a royal pain in the backside right now.

Greg

[Dutch4122]

ARGH!! I wish this wasn't right now..... grrr owning your own home is a royal pain in the backside right now.
Greg

I'm in the same boat as of late! Just look at it this way, for all the hard work that you put into the place you deserve a little fun. Besides, when was the last time you had a chance to pick up a "Keith .32 six-banger."

Ramen Noodles aren't really that bad, are they? ;)

[45 2.1]

Ramen Noodles aren't really that bad, are they?

Yep, when you eat them about all the time to afford things you want, you learn how to make them taste pretty good.

[Bodydoc447]

The last time the group buy section went crazy like this I was on a Ramen diet for about 8 weeks. I wasn't sure if I had tapeworms or ate too many noodles. This too shall pass, as it is said. This .32 Keith is a truly providential for me. I just bought a new SP101 in .32 mag. The 120s shoot way high (I have ordered a new higher front sight) and this might split the difference.

Doc aka "Ol' Noodles"

[klausg]

Gang, on further reflection, I kinda like the RF design also; it's very close to the Meister that I currently shoot & both of my Rugers like, albeit a little heavier. So, put me down for either the Keith or RF; whatever the majority wants to go with.

P.S.- not to fond of Ramen but it will keep body & soul together, I prefer the Scotch Buy Mac & Cheese it stretches out the chili quite well.

-SSG Klaus

[Dale53]

I can't honestly say I have a cash flow problem. My problem is I am trying to not go "nuts" and buy every group buy out there. MOST of them appeal to me but I just don't NEED most of them:mrgreen:.

However, this particular GB does indeed pique my interest seriously. I AM READY![smilie=1:

I am continually amazed with all of the interest in the .32 H&R Magnum. I thought that I was the only goofy person around.:-D

I have all of the .32's that I need but I have been looking at that Ruger SP101 with increasing interest. Please tell me that it's "junk" and I won't like it. Please, please!

Dale53

[Bodydoc447]

Dale,

Man, I hate to do this to you but it is a dream! Even came from the factory with a pretty decent trigger. The front sight needs replacing because I like heavier bullets like the 120s from the group buy a while back. Shot those into nice groups but about 6 inches above point of aim. SDM Fabricating made a S&W partridge sight .220" height that fit the SP101 for a fellow named "Woody" on the sixgunner veteran site. He put me on to them. I corresponded with Scott Mulkerin who is going make me one, too. I'll report on it when I get it. Not too much of a gamble for $25 delivered. In any case ought to make a real dandy woods-bumming gun.

I was thinking I was the oddball, too. I have a real affection for the .32s, magnum and otherwise. My wife has a Ruger single six "vaquerolito" she really enjoys.

Doc

[Dutch4122]

Dale,

Man, I hate to do this to you but it is a dream! Even came from the factory with a pretty decent trigger................. In any case ought to make a real dandy woods-bumming gun.

Doc

Just what I didn't need to hear! You guys are gonna make me cry!!!!!!!!!;)

[Dale53]

Doc;
>>>Man, I hate to do this to you but it is a dream!<<<

I was afraid you were going to say that. Lord have mercy! I already have a S&W stainless 4" kit gun, a 16-4 (blue 6" with full underlug barrel), a TC Contender with a 10" SSK (JD Jones) barrel and a TC Contender Carbine (22"). I "really" need another one. It Could happen...

Dale53

[Bodydoc447]

Dale,

<<SUPPORTIVE MODE ON>> You really don't need one. There are just really , really nice. <<SUPORTIVE MODE OFF>> REALLY nice.

Doc

[old goat]

...Make it a 32-98-K, and you can count me in!


...old goat

[Dale53]

Bodydoc447;
Now THAT's sensitivity:mrgreen:. I will probably make the Ohio Gun Collectors Show this coming weekend. If I'm lucky they won't have a Ruger there...

Dale53

[Newtire]

You guys all sound like me. I like my little .32 mag more & more. If I didn't already have some nice plinking guns right now, I might be tempted on that Marlin .32 rifle. My Ruger Deerfield & Win. '94 AE .30-30 Ackley Improved wait period is over. I get to go down to the gunshop again this weekend to pick em up. Don't need no more guns right now. A good accurate .357 or .44 pistol sure would be nice though.....

[Dale53]

Remember, gang, the Friday deadline is tomorrow! Do I sound anxious? Who, me?:mrgreen:

Sign up now while you can (we want as many as possible).

Dale53

[boogerred]

heres my X X

[ktw]

I'll take one.

Prefer Keith or RF designs. Will take it in RCBS SWC if that what the buy turns out to be.

-ktw

[Newtire]

I'm with KTW. Really think the RF would be the most versatile & may feed better in leverguns even but if Keith is it, I'm in also.

[Powderpacker]

Wow, tough choice! 45 2.1's drawing skills make everything look good. I guess the 98K is my first choice but I'd also be in if the RF or SWC won the vote.

[475/480]

I added a Poll please vote ,I will give it 1 week.

Thanks Sean

[jar-wv]

I'm in on this one. Will be my first GB. Prefer the 98K, 98RF next, then SWC.

jar

[Newtire]

I added a Poll please vote ,I will give it 1 week.

Thanks Sean
I am not seeing the 98 RF on the poll. That's the one I would prefer actually. Is this just an oversight maybe?

[475/480]

I am not seeing the 98 RF on the poll. That's the one I would prefer actually. Is this just an oversight maybe?

Hi Newtire ,
No oversite,my first post really was for the K or SWC profile, eventhough the RF has some votes I did not think it would generate the needed votes to go that direction.The SWC is not lookin real good though is it. :veryconfu

Sean

[boogerred]

as long as it drops .314,ill be happy.with the moulds i have now,i cull way to many to find a few that i can size to .313.

[Dale53]

The poll is so overwhelming in favor of the Keith, that I would be in favor of proceeding. I'm not trying to "push it" but our direction is clear. I'm ready to send in my money.

FWIW
Dale53

[475/480]

The poll is so overwhelming in favor of the Keith, that I would be in favor of proceeding. I'm not trying to "push it" but our direction is clear. I'm ready to send in my money.

FWIW
Dale53

Good point.

I will start another thread with the GB start and all, later today.

Sean