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mag44uk
10-29-2009, 02:08 PM
I was going to do this one more time but was rather put off by the ammo availability issue in the US
In the past we have fired most things we can get our hands on and even borrowed pistolas and rigs and done the practical pistol and shotgun events.
Did any one go and was it underwhelming or the usual riotous assembly?
Regards,
Tony
:drinks:

mag44uk
11-30-2009, 05:05 PM
Any one?

BarryinIN
12-01-2009, 01:55 PM
I have gone, but it's been a while. Like maybe ten years or so.
It's something everyone with an interest in guns should see at least once.

My first time there, I rode with a friend who had been several times and used to run a table with another guy, so he knew the place well. We parked, started walking in, and I heard this sound like rushing water nearby. Since there were woods on at least two sides of us, I thought there must be some water in there we couldn't see, like a creek with rapids or maybe even a waterfall. I kept asking him about it this water, but he couldn't figure out what I was talking about.

As we got closer to the actual range site, it became clear what the noise was.
It was gunfire.
Because we were parked far enough away and the sound was dampened by the trees, it wasn't as loud. All I heard was an uninterrupted noise. A low, but constant whooshing roar, like a waterfall. As we got closer, the individual sounds became clear and I could identify it as gunfire, but not until then.

That should give you an idea of what it's like. So many shots, they run together as one when heard from a distance.

Boz330
12-02-2009, 10:18 AM
Mag,
I didn't go but the gunship (Huey) that flys out of there refuels at the airport that I fly out of and they didn't indicate the crowd was down any. They have 2 door mounted M-60s and I heard if you have enough money you can play Viet Nam with them. One of my friends was paid, (very low pay) to do the real thing and he was impressed with the Slick. The pilots were the real deal as well.

Bob

mag44uk
12-02-2009, 11:48 AM
Thanks for the replies guys.
I was hoping you may have some knowledge Bob as I have seen you are a local boy!
The last time I was there in 2007 was the first time the heli had been allowed to fly and shoot for quite a few years.
There were draws on the friday and saturday and the winners were able to shoot the m60from the heli,one in day time and one to start the night shoot.
I am planning on going next October.
As you can appreciate its a big trip from the UK to Knob Creek.
It would be sorely dissapointing to get there and find we cant shoot anything.
Cheers,
Tony

mroliver77
12-02-2009, 03:15 PM
It was and is a riotous affair. Lots of ammo and huge gunshow. The pyro show gets better all the time! My nephew drug along a couple ex mil buds last time and now they are hooked. Still plenty to shoot also Tony
Jay

mag44uk
12-02-2009, 06:00 PM
Thanks Jay,thats good news. Hope to be there next year.
Cheers,
Tony

KYCaster
12-03-2009, 12:05 AM
Mag,
I didn't go but the gunship (Huey) that flys out of there refuels at the airport that I fly out of and they didn't indicate the crowd was down any. They have 2 door mounted M-60s and I heard if you have enough money you can play Viet Nam with them. One of my friends was paid, (very low pay) to do the real thing and he was impressed with the Slick. The pilots were the real deal as well.

Bob


Bob....I don't suppose that was your "SCHOOL TRAINED" friend was it?

Sorry everybody, that's a private joke. If you want to learn something about Bob's "friends" read the book "The Bluegrass Conspiracy". (also a private joke)

I haven't been to the Knob Creek shoot for a few years...seems like it gets harder to deal with the crowds every year.

BUT....I have become aquainted with a young man who has dominated the "assault rifle" match recently. Spring of '09 he was more than 50 seconds ahead of the first loser! He didn't attend Fall '09 due to the death of his father and the competition was compromised because of his absence. The next time he competes I'll be there to watch. He shoots an AR15 like the IPSC Grand Masters shoot a handgun! The match up between him and the current champ is something I'm not gonna miss.

If you want to see the Spring '10 Knob Creek shoot and need a place to stay send me a PM. I'm about 30 min away and have a spare bedroom. I can accomodate two or three people fairly comfortably and would like to meet some of the members here.

I know my way around the place fairly well and know several of the people who compete in the various matches. I've even entered the handgun match myself. (won it once...:oops:)

Like somebody else said....everybody should see it at least once....and the night shoot twice!

I think I'll shoot the pistol match again, just to see how a broke-down old fart can do against these young hot-shots...and I'm not gonna miss Marvin's come back!!!

Jerry

Boz330
12-03-2009, 10:28 AM
Jerry, no it wasn't "SCHOOL TRAINED" although he was school trained.
I to wouldn't mind having a cold one with with some of the guys from the board if it would work out. Maybe an "UNORGANIZED" shoot at the farm for the guys from across the pond if time would permit.

Bob

PS; If you read the book Jerry mentions, I only knew some of these folks, I was not involved in any way with them other than that.

mroliver77
12-03-2009, 12:20 PM
I dont have anything with a "fun switch" but I could drag along some neat stuff for our brothers accross the pond to play with. Too expensive for this hick to shoot much at the creek. It doe feel good just to be around a few thousand of my kind at once and feel 5 gal of Tannerite strapped to 55gal of diesel blowing up. Best we ever managed at home was 2 lbs duck taped to a gallon of gasoline an put in my bosses ancient out house.
Jay

KYCaster
12-03-2009, 09:30 PM
After some thought (that's always difficult for me) I've decided that one of my comments in my earlier post may have been in poor taste.

In poking some fun at Boz330 I alluded to some of his "friends". So for clarification I want everyone to know that Bob's only contact with any character in the book I mentioned was at the parachute center that some of them frequented where Bob worked as an instructor and pilot, and at IPSC matches that they attended.

I did not mean to imply that Bob was in any way involved with activities described in the book. Bob, I apologize for any embarrassment or discomfort my comments may have caused.

Jerry

Boz330
12-04-2009, 12:33 PM
After some thought (that's always difficult for me) I've decided that one of my comments in my earlier post may have been in poor taste.

In poking some fun at Boz330 I alluded to some of his "friends". So for clarification I want everyone to know that Bob's only contact with any character in the book I mentioned was at the parachute center that some of them frequented where Bob worked as an instructor and pilot, and at IPSC matches that they attended.

I did not mean to imply that Bob was in any way involved with activities described in the book. Bob, I apologize for any embarrassment or discomfort my comments may have caused.

Jerry

No apology necessary, just didn't want anybody thinking I was involved in that sort of illicit activity. Beer has always supplied all the buzz I need.[smilie=l:

Bob

mag44uk
12-08-2009, 01:43 PM
Thanks guys for your various very kind offers. It would be great to meet up with some of you and bust a few caps! We have tried in the past to find other places to shoot. We usually do the MG shoot then go back there during the week and rent a load of guns. Most of the guys I shoot with are UK NRA ROs and most of us are UKPSA literate in practical shotgun and pistols.
So if you fancy getting together for some two or three gun practical we are in!
Its looking like October 2010 at the moment,numbers to confirmed,but 4 so far.4 is good for travelling and hotels.
We do like tannerite by the way!
Cheers,
Tony

Boz330
12-08-2009, 05:39 PM
Thanks guys for your various very kind offers. It would be great to meet up with some of you and bust a few caps! We have tried in the past to find other places to shoot. We usually do the MG shoot then go back there during the week and rent a load of guns. Most of the guys I shoot with are UK NRA ROs and most of us are UKPSA literate in practical shotgun and pistols.
So if you fancy getting together for some two or three gun practical we are in!
Its looking like October 2010 at the moment,numbers to confirmed,but 4 so far.4 is good for travelling and hotels.
We do like tannerite by the way!
Cheers,
Tony

The TNT might be a problem, use to be that I could get dynamite but the regs are a lot tighter on that stuff than it used to be. :violin:
A place to shoot and guns and ammo shouldn't be too much of a problem. I have a pretty good range on the farm.

Bob

oksmle
12-09-2009, 01:56 AM
Bob .... What's the closest landing patch for the Champ?

Boz330
12-09-2009, 09:13 AM
Bob .... What's the closest landing patch for the Champ?

BRY (Bardstown KY) is about 4 miles from the house. There used to be one 2 miles away that was built by a bunch of returning War 2 vets but they turned it into a rock quarry in 07. The bulk of my TOs and LNDs and about 5000hrs were in and out of there.

Bob

nelsonted1
12-09-2009, 05:56 PM
The TNT might be a problem, use to be that I could get dynamite but the regs are a lot tighter on that stuff than it used to be. :violin:
A place to shoot and guns and ammo shouldn't be too much of a problem. I have a pretty good range on the farm.

Bob

When I was a kid Dad would get dynamite and blow beaver dams and blast duck holes in the swamp. He talks about working on a dynamite crew when he was a kid. THey'd drive around with boxes of Dynamite bouncing around in the back of the dump truck which wasn't so bad. He said the boss would drive the dumptruck with a shirt pocket full of loose blasting caps and would complain about dynamite headaches which he managed by constantly pulling on a bottle of whiskey. Dad will tell us about dynamite all day.

He'd haul in sacks fertilizer and fuel oil and set up for the fun. His hands shook when he crimped the fuse on the cap. He'd send all us kids under the eyeball of grandpa in the truck with the engine idling. Then by and by the greatest sight and sound there is for a little boy- an explosion so beyond comprehension we'd be spellbound.

Then, later when I was in college Dad said with all the friends I had with subguns, belt fed 8mms, 30s and 50s why not get all my virgin city friends out for a dynamite party? We had quite a response over that idea, let me tell you! He went to the sheriff for a permit.

He told the sheriff he needed it for a dynamite party. The sheriff pulled out the form and began filling it out. He didn't even look up but he did say "should I even ask what a dynamite party is?" Dad said I have lots of college buds that don't know about machine guns or explosions so we were going to start out with rifles, subguns, then machine guns, then 50s, finally a couple of 20 mm Lahtis. Then complete the show with Dad blasting new duck holes for the wildlife. The sheriff sat back in his chair and asked if he could come. Dad said sure!

WE never had the party due to a very bad drought- he was a afraid the 400 acre swamp would catch fire and have peat fires burning all winter. Everyone graduated that year and spread out all over the country.


I now live in Georgetown KY. (The fun was in Minnesota). That damn Knob Creek is the reason I live in this godforsaken place. I managed to meet another shooter there and Wallah! I'm a father.

We started coming down in the mid 80s when it really fun and little cause it was so new. The early 90s was when the Chinese were flooding the U.S. with SKS and Aks and more importantly the CHEAP CHINESE AMMO AND GUNPOWDER. There was a machine gun powder that had no flash suppressant. The 30 and 50 guys bought it for the gigantic fireballs and tremendous noise. I wish I had bought the knee high kegs one could get it in. Anyway, KCR is the coolest place in KY by far!


TED NELSON

By far the most fun are the rifle, pistol, national subgun matches and the shotgun matches that I don't think are advertised enough. They even tried belt fed machine gun matches a couple years. I'm all over Kenny to push the matches harder since one can get really sick of the sound of machine guns.

There are also machine gun rentals on one of the ranges on Saturday and Sunday so there is lots to see.

I forgot to say the last blasting was done by a DNR guy. Dad found out from somewhere they'd come out and blast for free. Us kids were in school so missed the fun. Dad had taken a hayrack off a running gear that fall swapping it for a gravity box leaving the hayrack on blocks in the pasture. THe next spring there was a foot wide hole through the center of the hayrack and the rock laying underneath. The only way that rock could possibly have landed there was it was thrown up by the dynamite. The coolest part was Dad and the "specialist" were between the rock landing and the its takeoff! They never saw the rock overhead and didn't hear it land.

TED

Boz330
12-10-2009, 09:42 AM
Around here you used to be able to go to the rock quarry and pick it up. A lot of paperwork but that was all. I have a creek that runs thru my farm and it would get log jammed and the dynamite was much quicker than a chainsaw, especially in the winter.

Bob

jleneave
12-11-2009, 01:23 AM
I hope to make it to Knob Creek this April myself. I have never been but all my buddies that have been say it is a blast (pun intended). I have read The Bluegrass Conspiracy and it is a good read. I went to DOCJT under an individual that was mentioned in that book.

Jody

Boz330
12-11-2009, 09:30 AM
I hope to make it to Knob Creek this April myself. I have never been but all my buddies that have been say it is a blast (pun intended). I have read The Bluegrass Conspiracy and it is a good read. I went to DOCJT under an individual that was mentioned in that book.

Jody

DOCJT??????? Thornton by any chance?

Bob

jleneave
12-12-2009, 03:20 AM
DOCJT??????? Thornton by any chance?

Bob

Dept. of Criminal Justice Training.......Bizzack.

Jody