453640

[BABore]

I have just completed test casts on a 453640 design. Cast from 50/50 WW's-Pb, plus a little tin, this boolit drops right at 0.454 with proper mold temperature. Casting a bit hotter it goes just a hair under that, so I labeled it as a 453. As cast weight is 261 grains. Nose length is 0.360 and meplat is 0.320 diameter. This design is now available and will be added to my design pages on the next update.

Several have complained that the original 454640 GB molds were running too big. As alot of casters size around 0.452, this design will work out well. The lubed boolit on the RH side of the pic was sized at 0.452. All the rest are as cast.

[44MAG#1]

How is the as cast diameter and weight with st. w/w casting fairly hot?
I want a 4 cavity.
When will you be turning them out?
If it is small with st w/w casting hot can you make it .454 as cast?

Let me know

[BABore]

How is the as cast diameter and weight with st. w/w casting fairly hot?
I want a 4 cavity.
When will you be turning them out?
If it is small with st w/w casting hot can you make it .454 as cast?

Let me know

They're cherry cut on a standard mill with DRO, so no, I can't cut them any bigger than they are now. Straight WW's will cast just a shade bigger, maybe 0.0003", than half WW's and half Pb. I was running the alloy at 725-750 F and pressure pouring with a ladle. When my test mold got too hot, they would throw 0.4535 x 0.4540. When I fan cooled it between casts, they stayed round at 0.4540. I cut molds to order, so they are available now.

[44MAG#1]

Sounds good.
Are the prices and shipping and address correct on your site?
What is the current delivery time?

Just what I was looking for.

[GLL]

Bruuce:

Looks good for my S&W 625's :)

Order is on the way for an HP version.

I look forward to seeing a few more of the "640" designs !

Best Regards,

Jerry

[BABore]

Sounds good.
Are the prices and shipping and address correct on your site?
What is the current delivery time?

Just what I was looking for.

Yes they are. The site was just updated a couple weeks ago. This design wasn't quite done yet. I will soon have several other of the 640 designs set for production as well. Delivery time is running about 2 weeks at present.

[Hardcast]

Will it work in .45 ACP semi-autos?

[Lloyd Smale]

ive got some loaded in acp brass right now. Im sure it will work well in the smith wheel guns but i havent shot it in a semi auto yet. Maybe i can at least test fire it for function today. I had him hollow point one of my cavitys and had him do it with a big pin so that it ended up simular to the lyman devestator and the hp bullets ended up about 230 grain. Thats the one im really hoping works out in the acps. By the way these are some top shelf molds hes making! A big step up from an lbt in my opinion for less money.
Will it work in .45 ACP semi-autos?

[Lloyd Smale]

ps id love to have one of these in 401 for the 40 sw/10mm and the 3840 about 200 grain solid and less hped!

[GLL]

http://www.fototime.com/60E3BF8EF18DE5D/standard.jpg

[GLL]

Lloyd Smale ....By the way these are some top shelf molds hes making!.... .

I agree !

I had Bruce make me a single cavity HP version with the very large pin as well ! It is one of the very nicest HP molds I have every used !

Jerry


http://www.fototime.com/60E3BF8EF18DE5D/standard.jpg

[Boomer Mikey]

I agree !

I had Bruce make me a single cavity HP version with the very large pin as well ! It is one of the very nicest HP molds I have every used !

Jerry


http://www.fototime.com/60E3BF8EF18DE5D/standard.jpg

How much do they weigh Jerry?

Boomer :Fire:

[Hardcast]

ive got some loaded in acp brass right now. Im sure it will work well in the smith wheel guns but i havent shot it in a semi auto yet. Maybe i can at least test fire it for function today. I had him hollow point one of my cavitys and had him do it with a big pin so that it ended up simular to the lyman devestator and the hp bullets ended up about 230 grain. Thats the one im really hoping works out in the acps. By the way these are some top shelf molds hes making! A big step up from an lbt in my opinion for less money.

Have you tried them in the semi-auto yet Lloyd?

[dsmjon]

I agree !

I had Bruce make me a single cavity HP version with the very large pin as well ! It is one of the very nicest HP molds I have every used !

Jerry


http://www.fototime.com/60E3BF8EF18DE5D/standard.jpg

Me likey, me wants! :mrgreen:

[Lloyd Smale]

not a real good test but ive been awfull busy lately but i emptied two clips out the back door using the non hollow pointed bullet one clip out of my gold cup and the other out of my kimber gold match and both gun ran the magazine without problems.
Have you tried them in the semi-auto yet Lloyd?

[Hardcast]

not a real good test but ive been awfull busy lately but i emptied two clips out the back door using the non hollow pointed bullet one clip out of my gold cup and the other out of my kimber gold match and both gun ran the magazine without problems.

Sounds promising. How deep did you seat them? Thanks.

[targetshootr]

Wow that looks good. It'd be great if it came in 280gr & 300gr with a crimp groove too and w/o hp.

[GLL]

Boomer:

My 453640 PB-HP in WW +2% Sn are dropping at 231 grains. I have the pin set rather deeply.

Jerry

[20nickels]

Sounds promising. How deep did you seat them? Thanks.

I assume from the pics that is a crimp groove above the lube ring. For those of you using autos, are you crimping there? Tks ahead.

[Firebricker]

I just got a chance to cast some with my new 453640 5-cav. Top quality mould all the way drop @ .453 nice and round the cavity's are consistant. FB

[RobS]

This bullet works well in my springfield XD. I had Bruce set me up with a 4 cavity hollow point version and the bullets come out at 234 grains and at a diameter of .4540-.4545 with WW. I have to cast hot so the bullets drop from the mold but at the speed I am casting at it works out well.

I seat them at 1.2140 ish and have loaded them with a few different powders. All combinations so far have been good and accuracy is better than any previous bullet design so far. The Lee TC bullet though is nipping at the heals of this bullet design. I've also used the bullet in 45 colt loads (900-1000 fps) with equal success. The bullet is a nice all around design if you want to double up (auto/revolver) on its application.

[skimmerhead]

:loveboolihow fast can you push em with no g c ?

skimmerhead------------ hi robs!

[RobS]

I haven't pushed them much over 950 fps as they would simply be a bomb if they hit an animal at much more of a velocity; the hollow point is really large on this bullet. I would imagine that they could be pushed out to 1200 fps or so just as with most plain base bullets if fit is good, proper powder is selected and a decent lube is utilized. The bullet has a nice meplat on it .320 so a solid bullet at 260 grains would be a more than decent bullet for general use in a 45 revolver.

[RobS]

And finally did some HP expansion testing.........This one I shoot in my 45 ACP or down loaded 45 cal revolver loads. The boolit started out at 234 grains and has a very large HP cavity. 18" of jugged water was untilized and the boolit made its way through them and settled just a bit inside of some wet carboard pieces, probably an 1/8". The boolit did happen to hit the edge of the metal trap I had set behind the H2O jugs so half of it had been sheared off, but expansion was very good at .8005 and retained a weight of 199.6 grains despited loosing darn near half of the expanded nose. Velocity on the tested boolit was 832 fps and the boolit was freshly cast from WW alloy with 1% Sn added and shot before aged at a BHN of 10.

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/RobS01/200gr805010BHNWW-1Sn.jpg

[saz]

I dont suppose I could talk anyone into selling me some of these in HP form I could try in my 1911?