Ted Williams 30-30 [Archive]

bruce drake

10-21-2009, 08:24 PM

I saw a Ted Williams 30-30 tonight in a local gunstore. It looks like a Winchester 94 with the top eject. Is this a clone that Winchester made for Sears?

He's asking $175 for it because Bubba put a lot of scope mount holes in it in the past.

The bore looks pristine so just curious if its worth going back to get it.

Bruce

No_1

10-21-2009, 08:32 PM

Bruce,
It is exactly what you think, a winchester with a sears banner on it. Personally I would not buy something that has been made into a swiss cheese.
I can only pass on what a pawn shop owner friend of mine told me: Christmas is coming, everyone wants to be the hero and save the day which means a lot of guns will go to the pawn shop. Keep your eyes open for good deals around then.

Robert

docone31

10-21-2009, 08:32 PM

I would.
It is a sears. They fire well. Winchester made it.
Bubba Norgered the outside, not inside.

Chuck 100 yd

10-21-2009, 08:50 PM

The rifle WAS a fine one! Lots of FINE ones have been turned into parts guns by Black & Decker.

bruce drake

10-21-2009, 08:54 PM

I guess I need to figure out how to get off work early tomorrow.

MT Gianni

10-22-2009, 11:00 AM

Good choice Bruce.

Ajax

10-22-2009, 04:06 PM

theres one in a local pawn but it has alot of surface rust they want 175 for it. the bore looks good but i dont know with the outside weing what it is i am kind of worried.

Andy

oneokie

10-22-2009, 04:21 PM

The Ted Williams (Sears Model 54) has a bunch of factory holes in the left side of the receiver, or at least mine does.

rugerman1

10-22-2009, 04:54 PM

The Ted Williams (Sears Model 54) has a bunch of factory holes in the left side of the receiver, or at least mine does.

rool16?

oneokie

10-22-2009, 05:35 PM

rool16?

Sheesh, you would invoke rule 16. Will take an hour or so to find it and get things uploaded. Geeze.

rugerman1

10-22-2009, 05:44 PM

Sheesh, you would invoke rule 16. Will take an hour or so to find it and get things uploaded. Geeze.

I'm in no hurry,Nolan ;-)

rugerman1

10-22-2009, 06:37 PM

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/110.gif

Lead Fred

10-22-2009, 06:49 PM

My 1967 Ted Sears winnie is fast and shoots straight.

Id buy another for $200 in a heartbeat

oneokie

10-22-2009, 06:49 PM

Rule 16:

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn16/oneokie/100_0900rev.jpg

bruce drake

10-22-2009, 08:39 PM

Got off work early tonight and went in and laid cash for it.

Here are the pictures of my "new model 100 30-30" compared to my 1936 made Winchester 1894 made in 32 Win Spl.

I see that the holes are there by design it seems though someone replaced the original screw with an allen-headed screw.

I'll call Numrich later this week to get a couple of original screws to replace the wrong one and the two missing screws.

There is a small ding in the side of the stock but it lends character.

The bore is immaculate! I'm looking forward to using cast through it!

Bruce

Jon K

10-22-2009, 09:03 PM

I think Sears had them all built with scope mount holes drilled & tapped.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/Jon_K_2006/DSC_0014-1.jpg

Jon

Heavy lead

10-22-2009, 09:09 PM

OK, I give, what finish is on the receiver, I like.

Lead Fred

10-22-2009, 09:40 PM

and whos vernier peep is that, I want one

helice

10-23-2009, 08:54 PM

Bruce
I'm jealous. Nice rifle. Here in Sunnygrad, Californicate the pawn shops don't have the evil firearm.
JonK
Great picture of a clean rifle. I'll be waiting to know the finish and tang sight. Helice

Jon K

10-23-2009, 10:02 PM

OK guys, here is what it is............Original finish scrubbed w/Scotch-Brite pad then burlap bag using Hoppe's ..............lots of elbow grease.

Tang sight is Marble's.

Here's a before pic:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/Jon_K_2006/pix461457531.jpg

Jon

Heavy lead

10-23-2009, 10:12 PM

Thanks for sharing Jon, looks just like a matte nickel finish. Wow.

Jon K

10-23-2009, 10:29 PM

I believe that is nickel, they had plated before blueing in that time period(post-war), and had problems with finish holding up.

Jon

jlchucker

10-24-2009, 10:43 AM

Kind of off the subject a bit, but does anyone know what year Winchester started drilling and tapping those two holes for receiver sights? I ran across a 32 special in good shape just yesterday, and it has a Redfield receiver sight on it. The serial no. was in the 1 million 8 series. The shop owner thought that the holes had been drilled later, based upon another 32 sp he had in the 1 million 7 vintage, which didn't have the two plugged holes.

bruce drake

10-26-2009, 10:28 AM

I looked up the part to replace that hex head screw on the TW 30-30 and its the firing pin lever stop screw. $2.10 from Numrich and should be here by the end of the week to bring it back to original status. Considering that after I did some research on Gunbroker and AuctionArms and a couple of other websites, I got the rifle for about $100 less than comparable rifles. Not bad for just replacing a $2 screw.

Jon, your rifle looks great.

Bruce

Lead Fred

10-26-2009, 11:50 AM

The Ted Williams (Sears Model 54) has a bunch of factory holes in the left side of the receiver, or at least mine does.

I checked mine. It does not have any extra scope mounting holes, like in the pictures on page one of this thread.

Hurricane

10-26-2009, 12:36 PM

Nice looking rifle. The two holes in the upper rear of the receiver are factory drilled mounting holes for Williams and Lyman peep sights.

Ken

11-24-2010, 10:54 PM

I have a Ted Williams scope with rings made by Weaver El Paso I will sell for $75 shipped to go on one of these classics.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r290/Paco_064/DSC02189.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r290/Paco_064/DSC02188.jpg

pmeisel

11-24-2010, 11:49 PM

Always wanted one of those since I first saw one in the Sears catalog......

northmn

11-25-2010, 08:16 AM

I had one of the Sears guns once and got it at a good price. Mine was made in the post 64 times when the stamped parts were introduced. It still worked OK. Shot cast very well. Got rid of it for one of those reasons I cannot recall now as I would kind of like to have a 30-30 carbine again.

DP

twotoescharlie

11-25-2010, 11:12 AM

I have one that i bought at a local gun show about 14-15 years ago. fellow had a table set up selling his personal firearms. he said no one would buy it because it had "sears" on it. was about 90 percent new,had sling swivels on it. he sez "make me an offer" $95.00 and walked out the door with it. still have,gonna keep it.

TTC

madsenshooter

11-25-2010, 11:29 AM

My favorite shotgun is a Sear's Ted Williams. It's a 20ga pump made by Hi Standard. Great little pump. I became enamored of them after my father broke the one he had bought in the 1960s for grandad, by falling out of a tree while rabbit hunting. 30 years later I got the wood I needed from Numrich and fixed the old shotgun. Later, I bought another one as my brother and I had some disagreement as to who the old one belonged to, the fellow that fixed it, or the the fellow pop left it to. Falling out of a tree while rabbit hunting? Yep. There was a tree sticking straight out of the side of a spoil bank, and dad was sitting on it out toward the end. The rabbit came running by and dad took a shot at it. The recoil pushed him back far enough that he fell backwards off his perch, maybe as much as 10 feet to the ground. For 30 years that shotgun sat in the cabinet with a broken stock and cracked forearm.

Baron von Trollwhack

11-25-2010, 02:27 PM

On the Sears 94s, the four extra holes were factory to fit a scope mount that offset the scope to the left. In the day there were mounts available to use the two receiver sight holes and one factory hole on the left of usual Winchester 94s that were very simiar. BvT

richhodg66

11-28-2010, 03:46 PM

I'd say you got a really good deal on that rifle, I'd love to find one for $175. That's about what I payed for my beat up '94 14 or 14 years ago, mine looks bad, but it's a good shooter.

pietro

11-29-2010, 02:43 PM

[Kind of off the subject a bit, but does anyone know what year Winchester started drilling and tapping those two holes for receiver sights?]

FWIW, It's been well documented that Winchester first started D/T the receiver sight prep holes in the Model 94 receiver in the 1,790,000 SN range, and only stopped with the introduction of the angle-eject Model 94AE.

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Sig556r

01-16-2019, 10:41 AM

My 1967 Ted Sears winnie is fast and shoots straight.

Id buy another for $200 in a heartbeat

Nice nickname for a Ted Williams 100 (Winnie'94-in-disguise)

Texas by God

01-16-2019, 12:29 PM

The Ted Williams 94 Winchester was the last lever action to sell for around $100 used here but that was years ago. The last one I saw the owner wanted $300 and got it. I always thought the painted forend was weird...

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larryweingarten99

01-17-2019, 02:32 PM