Kroil, kroil, kroil!

[cheese1566]

We all hear about it, some swear by it. Where the heck can I get it???

I know I can order it direct from them or Brownells, but I want to get it locally. Any automotive or hardware stores/franchises carry it.

I tried my local NAPA Auto and will move on to Ace Hdwe.

Anybody try the rust dissolver from Kroil?

[Blammer]

I too cannot find kroil anywhere.

[Mk42gunner]

I bought my latest can at Napa.

Robert

[montana_charlie]

I was searching NAPA for Kroil (didn't find it) and accidently came across a product in their catalog called Lucas Gun Oil.
Anybody know anything about it?

It's described as having been developed to withstand the "high combustion tenperatures in machine guns".

CM

[Wayne S]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=65264

[mooman76]

I looked all over and finnally broke down and ordered it from Midway.

[TCLouis]

I know where I get mine.
I just run over to the place where they make it at lunch and buy my own self a can.

The company used to have a web site listing all of their products.

I'll look for it and amend this post later.

[arcticbreeze]

You can order direct

https://secure.concentric.com/kanolabs.com/orders/order_kroil.shtml

[cajun shooter]

You can call them at 866-458-9110 for all the needed info. Thay have a new product that is not sold in retail stores called SiliKroil which is regular Kroil with silicone . It's on a special 2 for 1 price now.

[Wayne S]

ANYONE ELSE try that 866-458-9110 # ??? and what responce did you get from the other end ??

[Shooter6br]

Marvel Mystery Oil at auto stores is poor mans Kroil

[Idaho_Elk_Huntr]

Here is a web deal, 2 cans for one price wirh free shipping


http://www.kanolabs.com/google/









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[alamogunr]

Web site lists this as the toll free #:

800-311-3374

John
W.TN

[SciFiJim]

I got two cans from the kanolabs.com/google site. Does anyone know how it would work as a gun lube?

[roarindan]

I got the 2 fer deal on their web site,matter of fact this forum is where i first heard about Kroil. I really like this stuff, walk past cans of wd 40 and a spray silicone to use Kroil. works fine as a lube.

[crazy mark]

I would use caution when using Kroil. Anybody ever read a MSDS on it?

KANO LABORATORIES INC -- KROIL
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MSDS Safety Information
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FSC: 9150
NIIN: 00-985-7121
MSDS Date: 01/01/1996
MSDS Num: CCVMB
Product ID: KROIL
MFN: 03
Responsible Party
Cage: 13868
Name: KANO LABORATORIES INC
Address: 1000 S THOMPSON LANE
City: NASHVILLE TN 37211-2627
Info Phone Number: 615-833-4101
Emergency Phone Number: 615-833-4101
Preparer's Name: P.R. ZIMMERMAN
Proprietary Ind: Y
Published: Y
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Contractor Summary
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Cage: 13868
Name: KANO LABORATORIES, INC.
Address: 1000 S. THOMPSON LANE
City: NASHVILLE TN 37211-2627
Phone: 615-833-4101
================================================== =====
Item Description Information
================================================== =====
Item Name: PENETRATING OIL
================================================== =====
Ingredients
================================================== =====
Name: *** PROPRIETARY ***
-----------------------------
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Health Hazards Data
================================================== =====
LD50 LC50 Mixture: NONE SPECIFIED BY MANUFACTURER.
Route Of Entry Inds - Inhalation: YES
Skin: YES
Ingestion: YES
Carcinogenicity Inds - NTP: NO
IARC: NO
OSHA: NO
Effects of Exposure: EYES: BURNING AND IRRITATION. SKIN: DRYNESS. PROLONGED
EXPOSURE MAY CAUSE DERMATITIS. INHALATION: MAY CAUSE HEADACHE, DIZZINESS,
ANESTHESIA, NAUSEA AND UPPER RESPIRATORY IRRITATION. INGESTION: MAY CAU SE
LUNG IRRITATION, NAUSEA, VOMITING AND DIARRHEA. HARMFUL OR FATAL IF
SWALLOWED. CHRONIC: ANIMAL (EFTS OF OVEREXP)
Explanation Of Carcinogenicity: NOT RELEVANT
Signs And Symptions Of Overexposure: HLTH HAZ: STUDIES HAVE CLEARLY
DEMONSTRATED DOSE-RELATED ADVERSE EFFECTS TO THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM,
HEMATOPOIETIC TISSUES, BLOOD, KIDNEYS AND LIVER ASSOCIATED WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION OF 2-BUTOXYET HANOL (EXTRACTED FROM DHHS (NIOSH) PUBLICATION
NO 90-118) (FP N).
Medical Cond Aggravated By Exposure: NONE SPECIFIED BY MANUFACTURER.
First Aid: EYES: IMMED FLUSH W/LG AMTS OF WATER FOR AT LEAST 15 MIN. SKIN: WASH
W/MILD SOAP & WATER. APPLY SKIN CREAM. INHAL: REMOVE TO FRESH AIR. IF
BRTHG IS DFCLT ADMIN OXYGEN. IF BRTHG STOPS GIVE ARTF RESP. G ET MED ATTN.
INGEST: CNTNS HYDROCARB SOLVS & PETRO OIL. DO NOT INDUCE VOMIT. CALL MD
IMMED. MINUTE AMT ASPIRATED INTO LUNGS DURING INGEST MAY CAUSE SEV PULM DMG.
DO NOT ADMIN EPINEPHRINE OR ADRENALIN.
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Handling and Disposal
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Spill Release Procedures: WIPE UP IMMEDIATELY WITH ABSORBENT RAGS, SWEEPING
COMPOUND OR OTHER ABSORBENT MATERIAL. REMOVE OR EXTINGUISH ALL FLAMES AND
SPARKS. DO NOT FLUSH INTO SEWER.
Neutralizing Agent: NONE SPECIFIED BY MANUFACTURER.
Waste Disposal Methods: BURY SATURATED ABSORBENT IN APPROVED LANDFILL. DISPOSE
OF ANY COMBUSTIBLE FUEL IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL
REGULATIONS.
Handling And Storage Precautions: KEEP AWAY FROM EXCESSIVE HEAT, SPARKS AND
OPEN FLAME. DO NOT TAKE INTERNALLY. DO NOT LEAVE CONTAINER OPEN. STORE IN
COOL AREA.
Other Precautions: USE W/PROPER VENTILATION. WEARING CONTACT LENSES IS NOT
ADVISABLE. IF SWALLOWED CAN ENTER LUNGS & MAY CAUSE CHEMICAL PNEUMONITIS.
DO NOT ADMINISTER EPINEPHRINE OR ADRENALINE. KEEP AWAY FROM CHILDREN &
ANIMALS. DO NOT PUNCTURE CONTAINERS.
================================================== =====
Fire and Explosion Hazard Information
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Flash Point Method: COC
Flash Point Text: 150F,66C
Extinguishing Media: CARBON DIOXIDE, DRY CHEMICAL, FOAM.
Fire Fighting Procedures: USE NIOSH APPROVED SCBA AND FULL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
(FP N). USUAL PROCEDURE FOR SOLVENTS. TREAT AS COMBUSTIBLE. DO NOT USE WATER.
Unusual Fire/Explosion Hazard: NEVER USE WELDING OR CUTTING TORCH ON OR NEAR
CANS OR DRUMS. DO NOT MIX OR STORE WITH STRONG OXIDANTS. STORE AT ROOM
TEMPERATURE.
================================================== =====
Control Measures
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Respiratory Protection: NIOSH APPROVED RESPIRATOR FOR VAPORS IF DESIRED.
Ventilation: LOCAL EXHAUST: NORMAL LOCAL EXHAUST SYSTEM. MECHANICAL (GENERAL):
NORMAL VENTILATION IS SUFFICIENT.
Protective Gloves: CHEMICALLY RESISTANT GLOVES.
Eye Protection: ANSI APPRVD CHEM WORKERS GOGGLES (FP N).
Other Protective Equipment: ANSI APPROVED EYE WASH & DELUGE SHOWER (FP N).
Work Hygienic Practices: NONE SPECIFIED BY MANUFACTURER.
Supplemental Safety and Health: USERS OF "L" VERSION SHOULD CONSULT "LR"
VERSION FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (FP N).
================================================== =====
Physical/Chemical Properties
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B.P. Text: 250F,121C
Vapor Pres: 2 @ 20C
Spec Gravity: 0.88 (H*2O=1)
VOC Pounds/Gallon: 7.8
PH: 6-7
Evaporation Rate & Reference: BUT ACET LESS THAN 1
Solubility in Water: NIL
Appearance and Odor: LIQUID, SLIGHT REDDISH COLOR; PLEASANT ODOR.
Percent Volatiles by Volume: 60
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Reactivity Data
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Stability Indicator: YES
Stability Condition To Avoid: HEAT, SPARKS, OPEN FLAME, STRONG OXIDANTS.
Materials To Avoid: STRONG OXIDIZING AGENTS.
Hazardous Decomposition Products: THERMAL DECOMPOSITION IN THE PRESENCE OF AIR
MAY YIELD CARBON MONOXIDE AND/OR CARBON DIOXIDE.
Hazardous Polymerization Indicator: NO
Conditions To Avoid Polymerization: NOT RELEVANT
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Toxicological Information
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Ecological Information
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MSDS Transport Information
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Regulatory Information
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Other Information
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Other Information: VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUND, AS PACKAGED, MINUS WATER: N/A;
THEORETICAL: 7.8 LB/GAL; ANALYTICAL: 7.8 LB/GAL.
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HAZCOM Label
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Product ID: KROIL
Cage: 13868
Company Name: KANO LABORATORIES, INC.
Street: 1000 S. THOMPSON LANE
City: NASHVILLE TN
Zipcode: 37211-2627
Health Emergency Phone: 615-833-4101
Label Required IND: Y
Date Of Label Review: 12/17/1996
Status Code: C
Label Date: 12/17/1996
Origination Code: G
Chronic Hazard IND: Y
Eye Protection IND: YES
Skin Protection IND: YES
Signal Word: WARNING
Respiratory Protection IND: YES
Health Hazard: Moderate
Contact Hazard: Slight
Fire Hazard: Moderate
Reactivity Hazard: None
Hazard And Precautions: COMBUSTIBLE. ACUTE: EYES: BURNING AND IRRITATION. SKIN:
DRYNESS. PROLONGED EXPOSURE MAY CAUSE DERMATITIS. INHALATION: MAY CAUSE
HEADACHE, DIZZINESS, ANESTHESIA, NAUSEA AND UPPER RESPIRATORY IRRITATION .
INGESTION: MAY CAUSE LUNG IRRITATION,NAUSEA, VOMITING AND DIARRHEA. HARMFUL
OR FATAL IF SWALLOWED. CHRONIC: ANIMAL STUDIES HAVE CLEARLY SHOWN
DOSE-RELATED ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYST EM, BLOOD FORMING
TISSUES, BLOOD, KIDNEYS AND LIVER ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF
2-BUTOXYETHANOL (FP N).
================================================== =====
Disclaimer (provided with this information by the compiling agencies): This
information is formulated for use by elements of the Department of Defense.
The United States of America in no manner whatsoever expressly or implied
warrants, states, or intends said information to have any application, use or
viability by or to any person or persons outside the Department of Defense
nor any person or persons contracting with any instrumentality of the United
States of America and disclaims all liability for such use. Any person
utilizing this instruction who is not a military or civilian employee of the
United States of America should seek competent professional advice to verify
and assume responsibility for the suitability of this information to their
particular situation regardless of similarity to a corresponding Department
of Defense or other government situation.

[Ricochet]

So its ingredients are "proprietary," but at least it's got 2-butoxyethanol in it. That's good old "butyl cellosolve," which is in lots of solvents, inks, paints, thinners, glass cleaners, etc. and isn't generally regarded as highly toxic. It's a main ingredient in some of the old engine top end decarbonizing solvents, like the B12 Chemtool I used on my van a few months back. I wouldn't pour it in a bag and huff it, but I'm not going to lose sleep over smelling it while using it normally.

Here's some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-Butoxyethanol

[shotman]

its no wonder he has a handle that starts with Crazy . there are many of them in the USA look how mr O got elected Hey Crazy read a MSDS on asprin
Kano labs on search.
As for gun lube is very good on pistols to keep leading down . you can run a damp patch in the bore let sit over night and the lead will wipe out easy.
the exrust works good The web says a haz-mat but that is only for 5gal or more.
the partez is good too its clear and dont discolor the Al molds. but you have to recoat more offen
NOTE-- the can size if you order from factoy as shipping is going to be about the same get the big cans..

[SciFiJim]

shotman - Please, no flames. He was concerned enough to post what he thinks is relevant information. Most of us have done the same thing at one time or another. It is up to each one of us to further research the things that we do.

[LeadThrower]

:hijack:

Anyone use Kreen, their fuel/oil additive? I've got a rough-idling vehicle (gasoline engine) with 220k mi that sounds like Kreen might help -- but I'd like to hear of others experience first.

Your thread now returns to its normal programming...

:hijack:ended

[Ricochet]

Yeah, I don't think it's crazy, either. See the notes in that Wikipedia link about toxicity. I'm just saying I don't think it's more hazardous than a lot of other solvents we use. This stuff's in Windex.

[Bill*]

Thanks for posting theMSDS. I read it; seems to be about the same kinda precautions as I might expect from a can of spray paint or something similar.

[Cactus Farmer]

Hello>>>>>>toxic? We're melting lead and stand it close proxcimity to it for hours and we worry about an oil I use twice a week for 5 min?

[TCLouis]

For all those thinking "Inhalation Hazard" think about what you suck in when refueling your vehicle.

[crazy mark]

I read MSDS's as part of my job to see in what way we can and can't use chemicals. I work in the medical field as an Engineer and you would be surprised what people can be sensitive to. How many of you know how many substances when heated cause phosgene gas. I use kroil myself but I also have very good ventilation. The only problem I see is when it is heated too hot. As far as being crazy, that term is relative. I may or may not be crazier than some of the psych patients we have.

[StarMetal]

Heck, old Testers Plastic Model Glue was worse then that before they reformulated it. Remember before Kenny Rogers was a country singer he was with a rock band and they did the song What Condition My Condition Is In? One line: I woke up this morning, found the sun shining in, found my mind in a brown paper bag, oh I don't know what condition my condition is in.............

Lot's of stuff you could smell in a bag and get high. And nope, this old boy didn't do any of that stupid stuff. Never smoked, never got hooked on alchohol, never did drugs. I didn't jump off the bridge because my friends did.

Y'all know that paraffin is rate as a carcinogen right? Along with most petroleum products.

Joe

[tomf52]

Leadthrower - If you really want to clean up your injectors and smooth out an idle get 3M Fuel Injecftor cleaner. Adapter hose and fittings for you particular eng make/model about $25. This stuff is unbelievable. Have seen it change a roough running, almost stalling engine into one running so smooth you put a glass of water on the air cleaner.

[Bert2368]

Has anyone found kroil in MN? NAPA stores here never heard of it.

[pls1911]

Gents do yourself a favor...make up a Gallon batch of Ed's Red and add a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil (MMO). You can make it by the gallon CHEAP, and there just isn't any better product you can buy. Search for threads on Ed's Red for discussion by many folks who frequest the Boolits page.

Ed's Red Basic: Equal parts: Mineral Spirits, Kerosene, Acetone, Dexron 2 ATF.
Note: The Acetone makes this mixture an aggressive solvent which can readily harm some traditional wood finishes on stocks, so be warned and be careful with use. ER works as well without Acetone, but more slowly.
My addition: an equal measure of Marvel Mystery Oil
The addition of Marvel Mystery Oil makes a HUGE difference regarding residual lubricity and MMO has many solvent qualities on it's own.

The ER/MMO mixture is a better penetrant, solvent, rust loosner & preventer, squeak eliminator, with residual lbricant than anything you can buy, including Kroil, WD40, Liquid Wrench, or whatever whatcha-got on your bench.

With regular use, along with normal good cast bullet practices, this mix has eliminated any leading in all my pistol and rifle calibers and made routine cleaning a breeze.
( I hesitate to add that along with some clover compound and scraping with gas checks, it made a pretty nasty bore in a 1893 Marlin a reasonable shooter with BHN 21+ gas checked
.311 Ranch Dog, Lyman, and Seaco boolits...)

On a different subject, for long term storage bore (or other metal) protection I've found nothing better than a very dilute (between 1:5 and 1:10) LLA/mineral spirits combination on a bore mop. After 24 hours dry time it becomes a very thin, a factory like protective coat of LLA, easily cleaned (like a new gun) when you want to return your hardware to sevice.
The same very thin mixture is terrific for initial bore conditioning... guaranteed no leading.
Or you can clean it out with the ER or ER/MMO mixture above.
Try it...you won't be sorry.
Cheers.

[Ricochet]

MMO by itself is a fine gun cleaner and lubricant. I've used it a lot.

[MT Gianni]

Heck, old Testers Plastic Model Glue was worse then that before they reformulated it. Remember before Kenny Rogers was a country singer he was with a rock band and they did the song What Condition My Condition Is In? One line: I woke up this morning, found the sun shining in, found my mind in a brown paper bag, oh I don't know what condition my condition is in.............

Lot's of stuff you could smell in a bag and get high. And nope, this old boy didn't do any of that stupid stuff. Never smoked, never got hooked on alchohol, never did drugs. I didn't jump off the bridge because my friends did.

Y'all know that paraffin is rate as a carcinogen right? Along with most petroleum products.

Joe

I missed this thread addition. Great points. Joe are you aware that Coleman lantern mantles if sold today, or 1985, would need 5' of air space in the packaging to isolate the radioactivity? It is a good idea to read the MSDS for everything we use but to understand the meaning of the terms also.

[Ricochet]

They still sell Coleman lantern mantles, but they no longer contain thorium. I don't think they light as well or hold up as well as the old ones.

[dromia]

Read a test recently on penetrating oils and the best of all beating even kroil was a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF.

No wonder Ed's Red is so effective.

[Recluse]

Read a test recently on penetrating oils and the best of all beating even kroil was a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF.

No wonder Ed's Red is so effective.

I read the same report--the 1:1 mix of acetone and ATF beat kroil by even a GOOD margin.

That was music to my eyes as I've got a project starting next year with a boat that I'm going to need a lot of penetrating oil that will do the job.

:coffee:

[AkMike]

Here locally I get it at the local bearing shop. Yep they sell mainly bearings and chains ect.