C358-180-RF Reprisal Starts NOW!

[357maximum]

Ok here we go, the buy starts today

This is the original design that has already had a couple of group buys done on it. Hopefully enough of you want one of these, badly.

It looks like the price is $56.00 and can be sent directly to me, I however do not wish to publish my name and info on the net, so if you wanna email me I will reply with the address






When we hit the magic number of 25, I will give a two week warning and at the end of them two weeks if you have not put a check in the mail, you don't want one at this time. I will wait a reasonable amount of time for the checks that were sent by the two week warning date, then it is off to lee..

We all know what this boolit is and if not there is a ton of stuff written up about it, so there should not be many questions on this one, it should be painless and straight forward.

I will answer questions when I can, but I do not check email every single night, I will try to. I work underground construction so some nights I simply cannot.

No whining please, no arguing please, this is the heavy 35 boolit the majority wants so that is what we get.

[jeff223]

im glad you decided to run the group buy on this mold.im sure it will fill up fast.i will get with you later and have fun

later,
jeff

[9.3X62AL]

Check yer E-mail, sir. THANK YOU for re-running this critter!

Allen Paine

[Poohgyrr]

Email on the way, thanks!!

:drinks:

[Bodydoc447]

Check is in the envelope to go out tomorrow morning. Thanks for stepping up and Honcho-ing this deal!

Doc

[lar45]

357Maximum is a great guy to deal with.

I kept the nose length shorter on this bullet so that it would feed from my Rossi M-92 357 mag. The bullets dropped at almost 180gns from WW and seem to shoot great at low and high velocities.
Have fun.

[Beerd]

357Max,
e-mail sent
thanks
..

[Johnch]

Email sent .
Thanks for running this

Johnch

[357maximum]

So far I have had 7 requests for my address, maybe this won't take a long time, I am hoping anyway. To answer recurring ?'s this boolit will fit most leverguns if not all of them , it has shot very well for me in 357 max at 2K and I am sure I could push it faster if I could get more powder in the case, or try a different rate powder, but I am very happy with the 4227 loads I used in my 357 max pistol on the boolits Jeff sent me. yes this boolit would be suitable to kill deer ( that is my plan and I think it will be ideal for this task), and yes it is a gas check design.

[CSH]

These group buys are going to bankrupt me, but I can't pass up this one. I sent you a PM and an email.

[nighthunter]

email sent. Thanks for takeing on this GB.
Nighthunter

[357maximum]

So far 9 requests for my info..

If I could I would like to ask you all a favor, when requesting my address; please use my email (not the PM sytem)it makes it alot easier on me plus it does not bite into the bandwith here. I simply check my mail and do a paste for the address and answer any qustions and it makes for a one step operation that way.


requesting my address has had an added side benefit, it kind of gives us an idea of the number of interested parties, so thats a plus..

thank you..
Michael

[libbyman]

Check sent this AM via USPS. Been waiting for this group buy.
libbyman

[gbair]

357Max,

Email Sent. Thank you!

Greg

[357maximum]

17 requests so far, if they all follow through we are at 18 including me...Looking good....

I should have asked earlier, but you will have to excuse my inexperience on this one: Please include full name, address, and screen name on the check or somewhere in the correspondance.

[Tomhorn]

357 MAX, Poatal money order went out this A.M. for two moulds. Thanks for ramrodding this.

[dragonrider]

Email sent.

[cast-n-blast]

Email will be sent tomorrow. Thanks, Jeff

[357maximum]

Looking good fellas

22 requests so far for my address


I would like to thank junior for posting about this group buy elswhere, has brought in a couple more requests. If all the requests pan out we are in good shape and heading in the right direction. I have had several comments about the price of the mold. Some seem to think I should have charged 58 instead of the 56. Well lets not worry about this yet, I am betting on the law of averages of distance to ship will make it real close to being right. If you wanna send me extra money, by all means go ahead, but please make it in the form of hundred dollar bills...the more the better..

Have a great evening all..

[357maximum]

UPDATE

27 requests and 1 check so far

ZIP 32127

[contender85]

I sent you an email yesterday but so far have not recieved a reply, I would really like to have one of these moulds and will mail you a check just as soon as I get your info.

Thanks, Mark (contender85@yahoo.com)

[357maximum]

Somehow I did not get it????, but I just now sent it to you, thanks for your interest.

That makes 30 requests in total, thus far

[9.3X62AL]

Funds sent this morning for one mold.

[contender85]

Somehow I did not get it????, but I just now sent it to you, thanks for your interest.


I dont know what happened to it but I did get yours and the check is going in the mail this morning.

Thank you, Mark

[oksmle]

357maximum .... PM'd you yesterday asking for address. No reply yet. Please email me with info.
Thanks,
oksmle

[cast-n-blast]

Check mailed today. Thank you ! Jeff

[gbair]

357Max

Sent check out this PM. Thanks for running this.

Greg

[tom barthel]

I absolutely AM interested. Please send me your address and I'll get the check headed your way for one mold.

Thanks for doing this.

Tom

[AFRecruiter]

Has anyone tried this slug from the previous buys in a Marlin .35 Rem? If so, were there any issues?

[357maximum]

Got another check today zip 59923-2441 .. thats 2 so far..


I have already asked this, but I will again. Please do NOT use the P.M system, contact me directly for my address. It makes it easier for me , plus it does not bite into the bandwith here.


contact me here : mktissue@cmsinter.net



We are at about 35 requests for my address as of today...


Looking good guys....

[LET-CA]

Info request sent via email. Can you accept PayPal payments? It's faster than checks or money orders. Looking forward to this.

[357maximum]

NO PAYPAL, read their tems of use, and you will see why. I closed the account with them awhile back, they are not on our side. Personal check, or money order is just fine, you have the time for it to get here. I due not support organizations, and corporations that do not support my lifestyle, and the constitution. None of us should. PERIOD. Paypal while convenient, is not the answer my friend,,,,,,

update we are around 37 or 38 requests for my info.

[gbair]

357Mag

Thanks for your stand on paypal. I join you in voting with my dollars!

The easiest way to fight for our freedom and punish political correctness is to hit then in the pocket.

Greg

[tom barthel]

Check is in the mail for one mold.

Thanks

Tom

[steveb]

Email Sent!

[dragonrider]

Hope you got my check, sent it days ago?

[steveb]

357 Maximum, I sent you an email as well and havent heard back with your name and address. I have the money order for 56.00 just waiting to be sent out.....Steve:Fire: (steveb3006@yahoo.com):Fire:

[jballs918]

is this bullet a custom or does so one make something close to it. i have just put a 357 level in layaway, but most likely i would only use these for hunting, so a single banger would be great for what i need. any ideas

[jballs918]

eeek nevermind its almost cheaper to be a 6 banger, they had a rbcs for 60 bucks. anyone know how long this buy will last. im already doing one and the wife gave me a world of grief on that

[357maximum]

Update: Just got in from a weekend of shroomin in beautiful upper michigan, the three of us picked around 6 - 7 hundred in two solid days of hard hunting. This is about 1/3 as good as we usually do, but it was fun nonetheless. The requests were a popping this weekend. I have recieved checks from the following:

This is a total list thus far:

32127
59923
01525
40031
35748 (thank you)
88203 (x2)
81401

That is 9 buys total including me, AND we are at over 40 requests.. Looking real good. It won't be long now....Remember when I have 25 checks in my possession, I will sound the two week warning to send a check if you want one of these critters. I will then wait for those checks to get to me, and anything postmarked after said date will be returned to sender. Don't think that this makes me some kind of jackarse or something, I just believe the group as a whole should be penalized for a few peoples indecision or slothiness. If you have not sent a check by the end of them two weeks you simply don't want one bad enough, and or you don't need one bad enough. We all want to start pouring lead in them molds and the faster we send the order to lee the faster we will have our mold. There is absolutely no reason a group buy collection should take a long time provided there is interest in it, which in this case there obviously is. We may not be able to control how long lee takes to make the mold, but we can control how long it takes to collect the dough to order.

If you are wondering, YES I am an impatient man on this, I want in a real bad way to have time to load test and tweak for accuracy before the deer opener on Nov 15, and there is no reason we should have to wait for those who act slowly or only talk about action. I decided to honcho this deal because I was simply tired of waiting for someone else to do it. I am just as busy as most people, but I want one of these molds really bad. So as Larry would say lets "GIT ER DONE"


Michael



Steve B, I sent you the info just now, I was playing all weekend.

[steveb]

Michael, I WISHED I could find that many or had that nice a spot for those Morels here in Southern Indiana. I here they are very plentiful up in your neck of the woods. Congrats.I got enough for several meals. I will be sending out the money order in the mornin......Steve.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/100_2175.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/100_2171.jpg

[357maximum]

I was pickin them little black ones, the big creme colored ones havent started in earnest yet. I saw a few cremes, but no pickers yet. I will post a pic as soon as I gain some smarts on how to do it. I always get a picture too large message..

I be tttecckck nii cccall lll y ch ch challenged.

[357maximum]

these



http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1405&stc=1&d=1146447724




http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1405&stc=1&d=1146447724


I tried again???
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1405&stc=1&d=1146447724

[steveb]

Link not working.:(

[357maximum]

I think I got the above link to work, but unsure because it do work for me???


Also please when you request shipping info use my email address, I am simple minded and I get confused when I get a p.m and a email and have sent address in duplicate several times now. It confuses me and you, so please: mktissue@cmsinter.net use my email....

[steveb]

Money order sent from 47270

[357maximum]

Got home tonight and saw the pile of envelopes and thought aloud HOLY SH^&.

New arrivals:

46637 (thank you)
16732
28803 (2)
32054
97148
19026
2083743445 (2)
59102 (thank you)
92399 (thank you)
73160 (thank You)
74403

Thats 22 total checks recieved plus me for a total of 23, almost there. This will all be history soon ladies and gentlemen.

[DEVERS454]

Can you recommend a good load for this with a Rossi model 92 and/or Ruger blackhawks? (357Magnum and Maximum both)

Handloads.com says 10-12.5gr of 2400. (sounds like a darn good load for this round)
Comments? Suggestions? Corrections?

[9.3X62AL]

My first load with this boolit will likely be 13.0 x WW-296, working up slowly from there. The platform will be a Ruger Bisley Blackhawk 357 x 7.5", goal is 1350 FPS so that the boolit stays hypersonic throughout its maximum game-taking range (75 yards absolute limit). 50 yards is a more likely and reasonable limit, really--but jackrabbits justify a "fudge factor".

[imashooter2]

Can you recommend a good load for this with a Rossi model 92 and/or Ruger blackhawks? (357Magnum and Maximum both)

Handloads.com says 10-12.5gr of 2400. (sounds like a darn good load for this round)
Comments? Suggestions? Corrections?

12 grains of 2400 gets 1,489 fps average out of my 18.5 inch 1894C and is good for 10 shot groups of 4 - 5 inches at 100 yards. No reason you shouldn't get similar performance from your Rossi.

[nighthunter]

Michael,
Sorry my check hasn't gone out. I had to go to Canada for work and returned home last night. The check will be sent tonight.
Nighthunter

[LIMPINGJ]

Michael my payment will go in the mail today.
Jim

[357maximum]

I set the boolits Jeff sent me over 21 and 22 grains of H4227 with great accuracy. These were listed several places as max or over, but I had no issues in my Match Grade Machine 357 maximum encore pistol. Incidentally this is the same loading I use with bulk remington 180 grain jhp's. I tried AA1680 in the max, but was less than pleased with the accuracy.


We are only two molds away from the 25 mark fellas, this is going faster than expected. And should be over in les than three weeks or so. If you want one ya'll better get on board quickly. I missed the last buy, and anguished over it for awhile so if you are thinking about it or sittin on the fence, you might wanna get your pen out and fire a check or money order this way.

Them shroons tasted mighty good include in a meal of fresh caught channel cat, and wild Michigan ditch grown asparagus. Truly a meal fit for a king.....

[Newtire]

I was pickin them little black ones, the big creme colored ones havent started in earnest yet. I saw a few cremes, but no pickers yet. I will post a pic as soon as I gain some smarts on how to do it. I always get a picture too large message..

I be tttecckck nii cccall lll y ch ch challenged.
Hey Mike,
Those little black ones were my Dad's favorites. One time as a kid he asked me if I'd seen any morels after a day out in the woods. When I told him "Just some funny little black ones!" He jumped up, "Black Morels!" lets go! My Mom dried a huge quantity of them during one particularly good year and I ate them 18 yrs later! She threaded a sewing thread thru them. My Dad's favorite location was beneath a dead cottonwood. In fact, he "ringed" a young cottonwood in the swamp down behind our house & the next year, there were morels there.

Anyway, I am sending off the $56.00 for the .358 reprisal mould.

[9.3X62AL]

Mike--

Asparagus and shrooms would make even jackrabbit taste good, I'll bet.

[Old Ironsights]

Got home tonight and saw the pile of envelopes and thought aloud HOLY SH^&.

Thats 22 total checks recieved plus me for a total of 23, almost there. This will all be history soon ladies and gentlemen.

Should get 46360 in the post today or tomorrow....

[steveb]

Should get 46360 in the post today or tomorrow....


Same here for 47270

[Pepe Ray]

Big thanks to our HONCHO
The check is in the mail---honest.
Soon you'll put 04463 on your list.
Pepe Ray

[357maximum]

Recieved 47270
46360
today


Time for a deadline,

Saturday June 3rd is the last day to be here by. The order will be shipped to Lee on Monday June 5th. Anything recieved after that will be returned unopened.... This is more time than I promised, to accomodate those who may not visit as regularly as some.

[steveb]

Does anyone have the email address for the fella (Glen Larson) that designed or drew the bullet design???

[borderman]

Money order mailed this morning. Thank you very much for your efforts.

[steveb]

Money order mailed this morning. Thank you very much for your efforts.


Borderman, you anywhere near Jackson or Jennings Co.???

[Poohgyrr]

Check in the mail... :roll:
Thanks for all the work, and now I have to fix something to eat. Those pictures made me hungry..

:drinks:

[357maximum]

steveb

Your question has been answered, pm sent....

[steveb]

steveb

Your question has been answered, pm sent....


Thanks!

[borderman]

Steveb -
I live in Monroe county - Bloomington, a conservative in the midst of liberals.

[357maximum]

Got 1 check today

15840

We are in for 27 molds as of right now, because I decided to get two..

[9.3X62AL]

This venture didn't take long to get going, now, did it? Well done, all around.

Now, I might need to scrounge up one of those-long delayed Marlin 1894 critters in 357 Magnum.

[357maximum]

[QUOTE=Deputy Al]This venture didn't take long to get going, now, did it? Well done, all around.

No it did not, I am simply amazed at the speed and intensity that this buy has travelled. I really expected a long three month wait for th required 25. I am grateful to all who have/will particpate/d. Thank You all,
I shot all them boolits from Jeff except one. It is sitting on top of my monitor wearing it's grooves full of beautiful purplish felix lube, and I cannot wait to make more. Real purdy boolit and my encore is awaiting them as badly as I am.


Michael

[Newtire]

This venture didn't take long to get going, now, did it? Well done, all around.

Now, I might need to scrounge up one of those-long delayed Marlin 1894 critters in 357 Magnum.
Hey Deputy Al,
What's bad is I am fresh out of any gun in the .357/.38 range. Now will have to get one.
.357 max should be getting a check from 95006 real soon. I am watching. I aim to try that 10 gr H-4227 with the RCBS 32-98 load of yours in my H & R .32 mag. I shot 11 gr. with a 118 gr. 311316 H.P. but since it is more of a better fit in my .30 carbine, not too great of accuracy in the pistol.

[357maximum]

recieved checks today:

95006
60411
47401
37803
74702
75440

Thanks
Michael

[357maximum]

As of rught now we are at 33 molds and counting, just one thing to remember for anyone thinking about this buy. (as earlier posted)

"Time for a deadline,

Saturday June 3rd is the last day to be here by. The order will be shipped to Lee on Monday June 5th. Anything recieved after that will be returned unopened.... This is more time than I promised, to accomodate those who may not visit as regularly as some."


Just in case you have not backread into the thread pages.

[9.3X62AL]

Newtire--

The "heavier" 32 caliber boolits seem to do better work at the higher end of the performace envelope in the 32 Magnum. All and all, I prefer the 95-100 grain boolits in that caliber. I'm not too sure the 4227 load was "mine"--I've used it, but it's not my pet load. With the RCBS 98 SWC, it's hard to find a powder or velocity that doesn't work well, in my experience with both 32 SWL and 32 Mag.

I am getting pretty excited at the possibilities of this 180 grainer in the BisHawk x 357 x 7.5". I've run some cast boolits to pretty intrepid velocities from this platform with decent accuracy, e.g. #358156 well past 1500 FPS and #358430 well past 1300 FPS. This might be my second such statement--but I think 1450 FPS is do-able in the Ruger safely.

[Newtire]

Newtire--

The "heavier" 32 caliber boolits seem to do better work at the higher end of the performace envelope in the 32 Magnum. All and all, I prefer the 95-100 grain boolits in that caliber. I'm not too sure the 4227 load was "mine"--I've used it, but it's not my pet load. With the RCBS 98 SWC, it's hard to find a powder or velocity that doesn't work well, in my experience with both 32 SWL and 32 Mag.

I am getting pretty excited at the possibilities of this 180 grainer in the BisHawk x 357 x 7.5". I've run some cast boolits to pretty intrepid velocities from this platform with decent accuracy, e.g. #358156 well past 1500 FPS and #358430 well past 1300 FPS. This might be my second such statement--but I think 1450 FPS is do-able in the Ruger safely.
Back on the .32 mag. Since my gun is only an H & R, I want to keep things down there but it seems to like the bullets kicked in the butt like you said. I posted this over on "cast boolits" but just for fun I used 5.1 gr. 800-X. (Lee dipper dipped) with the 32-98 & accuracy was a difinite improvement over anything so far. The IMR 4227 powder I used was so dirty that I am going to try the 10 gr. with H-4227 this time. Accuracy was approaching the good side but not like the heavy 800-x load. Next time I will use the Disc measure to see if it gives any more uniform charges. That 800-X is kinda chunky stuff for a measure it looks like.
It's all fun!

[475/480]

I put a check in the mail today for 1.

Sean

[flhroy]

I'm going and try and work up a load with this boolit for a 358win. First I'll see how deep the boolit seats in the case and still work through the action. I'll use a starting charge of imr 4895 that fills 60% of the remaining case capacity and work up from there. Does this sound like a sound process or is there another powder that you think may be better.

Thanks
Roy

[357maximum]

Recieved today

17055
95815
83705
20111
55442 thank you

that is 38 and counting....

Michael

[k8bor]

Just dropped the check in the mail this morning.
49738

[Idahoser]

Email sent.

Dangit.

I haven't even used "the perfect .30-30" mold yet. Now, nobody tell me about it if "the perfect .44Spl" boolit is GB'ing. I don't even have a lever for that cal yet to go with my 5-shot Rossi 720 that I love so much.

[old goat]

...E-MAIL has been sent.


...old goat

[steveb]

WOW this group buy is really gettin with it:drinks: OH YEA!:Fire: :mrgreen:
Cant wait to get my hands on this mould.

[357maximum]

Recieved payment for # 39 today
zip 75904

[rmb721]

I am sending a check tomorrow. Thanks.

[Idahoser]

Check will be in the mail the 15th, 38134

[LET-CA]

Am I too late to send in a check?

[Poohgyrr]

The money needs to be in his hand by Sat June 3rd.

This should be fun.

[357maximum]

Recieved funds from 04463 today, turnin into a big pile a checks fellas.


Please if you are thinking about this buy, go back and read all pages of posts, then if you have a question, I or someone will answer it, and please use my email, not the P.M. system... Thank You


mktissue@cmsinter.net

[waksupi]

Where do I find a picture of this bullet?

[357maximum]

Post 1 of page 1

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=6408


:) :) :roll: :roll: :roll: :Fire: :Fire: :mrgreen:

[357maximum]

#41 -- 49738
#42 -- 78216
#43 -- 77074

Arrived today 05/11/06

I am leaving tonight for a shroomin trip to the southern U.P and will not be back until sunday evening, so don't fret if you do not hear nothing of me for a couple of days, I will get to you when I get back.


Michael

[9.3X62AL]

Good hunting, Mike!

[357maximum]

"Good hunting, Mike!"

Thanks, from some of the reports I have been getting I will need all the luck I can get.

[Old Ironsights]

Refresh my memory:

LEE will ship you 45+ moulds and you are shipping out to everyone?

The US Post is going to love you...

Also:

Is Buckshot in on this buy?

I was wondering if it would be possible to drop-ship the mould to him so he can add a HP & Flat nose pin to one of the cavities for me...

[357maximum]

Refresh my memory:

LEE will ship you 45+ moulds and you are shipping out to everyone?

The US Post is going to love you...

Also:

Is Buckshot in on this buy?

I was wondering if it would be possible to drop-ship the mould to him so he can add a HP & Flat nose pin to one of the cavities for me...


Yes, I get one big box of lil boxes then I print labels and send them all individually to you all.

Yes, buckshot is in on this buy.

As far as shipping your mold to him for you, that is something the two of you would have to hash out amongst yourselves. If that is what the two of you decide I am willing to ship him two instead of one. It would be easier to just ship it to you, but I can do it. I can not/will not speak for Buckshot that is all you man.

[DEVERS454]

Lets see, 50+ of those little boxes with labels.

Are you going to wrap them or do they just come in plan white boxes?

Not that it matters to me, mind you, but, ol' Clifford Claven at the US Postal service may have a cow when they see the word "bullet" on anything.

[flhroy]

If the group buy reaches 50 is there another price break?

just wondering

Roy

[357maximum]

No other price breaks until 100 will be the order, then you get regular dealer pricing. WHATEVER THAT IS.

[Idahoser]

You want to hollow point one of these? Will that do any good on this boolit?

[jeff223]

WOW this deal filled up fast.

Mike i am going to give you a call on the phone ASAP
my knee surgery went good and im doing well.i got your package in the mail that you sent and i thankyou very much

Mike if you want to use my mold so you can cast some boolits let me know.i wont be able to get out and cast for a couple of weeks.i dont dont mind waiting till then i will cast some more for you.let me know

[357maximum]

Hi, guys I got checks this weekend from:
92374 thank you
49870
74063
17747
and
30736


The four of us picked about 400 little black shrooms in the U.P, and then we dropped down to the northern L.P and got about 600 big white/cream mushrooms. It was a good time even though I was in rain gear all friggin weekend. We really needed SOME rain, but woo boy did it rain alot.

[357maximum]

Got check #49 today

zip 46917

and today may 16 we got check # 50 -- from 38134

Times gettin short on you if you are wanting one of these babies, fellas.....

[357maximum]

We sit at 50 molds even and the wind has seemingly stopped.

If someone still wants in on this buy, the time is NOW


Has anyone sent me a check and not seen their zipcode?

Just want to ensure everyone who wants in is in. And wondering if there are any funds still in the enroute....

Michael

[HollicaSnooze]

.357Max-Wait for me! My funds are enroute....

HollicaSnooze

[Gun-adian]

I emailed yesterday. I've got the money order ready, I just need to know where to send it.

Thanks.

Mike.

[357maximum]

Some of you may have read my previous post other than I meant it...


I wasn't meaning anything other than the original plan would happen, I was just keeping you all up to date, and making sure the post office did not lose anybody.

I missed out on the last buy because I did not lurk in the right areas, and I regretted it. I WILL NOT PUT ANYBODY THROUGH THAT. I was quite torn that I missed it, so I am just saying if you even just think you may want in, get in, the time is now and rapidly fleeting. In order for me to fix my lack of paying attention I had to honcho the buy to get what I wanted, when I wanted it.

I am not a Marine, but I would never leave a man behind.., but the time for action is now.

Michael

[Antietamgw]

A check from 21713 is on the way. I got in on 3 group buys about the same tiome and only saw 2 in the checkbook register. Had me sweating for a minute figuring out which one I forgot to send. Thanks for all the effort!

[357maximum]

Got check from 29439 today

[DEVERS454]

The only thing that is really going to suck is having to wait 2 1/2 months for this friggin mold to be sent back to us... I REALLY hope it gets here in time for fall so I can at least TRY it out before deer hunting season.

Gonna either shoot 357magnum or 454. (Ruger Blackhawk or Raging Bull, respectively)

[jeff223]

you boys up to the 100 mold order yet?this deal is a winner for sure.it will be worth the waithttp://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[357maximum]

Got #'s 52, and 53 IN todays mail.

#Zip
21713-thank you.,
70809

Jeff I do not see us making 100 moulds ever, and I am not willing to wait months and months to find out, trying to save a few pennies. I wanna kill a nice whitetail buck on NOV 15 with this bad lad. If we were somewhere in the 80 to 90 range it would be worth considering, but at 53 moulds I do not see this happening in time. To my knowledge there are only two checks enroute as I type this.

Has anyone sent an envelope I have not recieved yet, remember Monday is a federal holiday, so no mail that day, and the deadline is rapidly approaching. If you want in now is the time, cause soon you wil be S.O.L............

Michael

[Johnch]

If you get to 60 payed molds ( I think ) it would be wise to just order 100 .

100 moulds at $30 ( 100 price I think ) would be $3000
60 moulds at $50 is $3000 also .

I would then anounce you are going to cash the checks , but leave the the Group buy open to new orders till the moulds came in .
If you would reach 99 (+ one free for you ) or close to it .
You could close it .

Then when you ship the moulds , you could refund any excess .
Minus a $1 for the trouble of writing the check and maybe $1 donation to the site .

Any excess molds could be sold and you could profit a little :drinks: , but I would send another donation to the site for sold molds .

Just my Idea .

Johnch

[Idahoser]

That makes a lot of sense. You just KNOW there's going to be people asking after it's closed, and if it can be done for no extra money, I can see no reason not to.
I paid what I expected to for a mold. I'm not due a refund yet, since it's not cash. In theory, I guess I own a portion of another mold at 357Max's house. What, 2/3 of a mold? Assuming there's 60 of us and ordering 100 molds.
There ought to be a way that, if I need the money, I could sell that portion to another member for a refund; or buy the portion of someone else, and get the mold; or leave it invested there until sold (for the regular price we agreed to in the beginning, or even a little higher- it's available immediately). This way Max isn't stuck trying to pay refunds when he still has molds.

Heck, Max could just do this on his own and us never know about it, then he's got 40 molds free to sell. I could live with that.

[steveb]

Good Idea!

[David R]

This thought crossed my mind too. 60 molds @ $56.00 comes to $3360.00

100 Molds comes to $3700.00?

What about shipping? The guy is going to need $360.00 for shipping of the original 60 molds. Now we are up to $3700.00 plus $360.00 for shipping, that comes to 4060.00 Investment. for 100 molds.

I was a honcho for 62 molds give or take a couple. I ordered a few extra. Boy am I glad I did. I crunched the same #s to see if it was worth it. I would still be sitting on about 30 molds and not broke even yet.

David

[357maximum]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????


OK guys you got me thoroughly conflucted now, could someone explain what you are meaning a little better.

Just so you know I am no mathematical genious, I am not independantly wealthy ( I do not have thousands of extra dollars lying around), I am basically a glorified ditchdigger for god sakes.


TELL ME MORE, PLEEAASE.


Where did the 30 bucks a mold figure come from??

[David R]

If you buy over 100 molds, they are I think $37.00 each instead of $50.00.

What I was trying to say is its not really worth it. Just send the buy in when you are ready.

David

[357maximum]

"If you buy over 100 molds, they are I think $37.00 each instead of $50.00.

What I was trying to say is its not really worth it. Just send the buy in when you are ready."

David


Yes David you are absolutely right...


Anyway I figure it it still would be about 1200 bucks out of my pocket, ain't gonna happen folks.. CFO would never allow it... got payments to make on 20 acres, new chevy , and new catboat, and why the hell would I wanna babysit 40 molds for anyway..


I deided to honcho this thing because i wanted a mold for this real bad, and NO one else would do it, I did not do it to go into the mold reselling bussiness or to make a profit. I already have one occupation I do not want, and most nights I do not get home from that until 7, 8, or 9 and my alarm goes off a 4:30 . So you do the math as to how much time I have in the summer, I DO NOT NEED ANOTHER JOB. And as far as those that do not get in this buy, I feel for them if they miss it ( I really do), but I was in the same boat awhile ago, It did not kill me. I simply had to wait a lil while till interest was there. They will do the same, but for now they are simply S.O.L. It happens to all of us from time to time.

BTW If I break even on this thing, I plan on doing a buy for a 200+ grainer of basically the same design sometime this coming winter so there will a chance for those who missed it to get a similar, but heavier boolit for their toys. ( If interest is there)

I hope I do not come off sounding like a d!ckhead, but it simply the way it is, If you lurked, but did not get in on the buy you simply did not want it that bad, and if you simply missed it, well then you missed it.

[Buckshot]

"................I hope I do not come off sounding like a d!ckhead, but it simply the way it is, "

How could you sound likt that? You da HONCHO, dude!:cool:

.................Buckshot

[Idahoser]

We're just thinkin out loud. If there was a break-point that we were nearing, we were hoping to get more for the money, even if we aren't the ones that get the extra.

You do what you've set out to do, none of us is trying to put you in any position at all. We were thinkin you might make out a littler better somehow.

[357maximum]

"................I hope I do not come off sounding like a d!ckhead, but it simply the way it is, "

How could you sound likt that? You da HONCHO, dude!

.................Buckshot



I would never want to upset, or offend anyone on accident. Now if I do it on purpose that is something different entirely. Sometimes my fingers do not keep speed with my brain, and I reread a post and I could/can see how it may sound to someone who do not know I am almost never serious away from work.

At work is something differrent, but then lack of seriousness can and has gotten people crushed, killed, electrocuted, and seriously burnt. Sometimes you guys get a little of both as I normally sit down and visit here right after I walk in the door from work.

[Poohgyrr]

"............ I would never want to upset, or offend anyone on accident. Now if I do it on purpose that is something different entirely....


Hey, I could've said that!! Anyway, I'm just happy to have found this forum, your group buy, and am waiting for this mold. There is a 20" M92 just waiting for this boolet, and our back porch/patio is covered right in time for summer evening casting sessions..

Thanks for being the honcho on this.......
:drinks:

[357maximum]

recieved three checks today

45327 Thank you
48879
B.C Canada going to 98230

That is 56 total now including the two I am buying.

THE TIME TO ORDER IS ALMOST UPON US

REMEMBER: this sat is the day to have it to me by. The order -WILL- be shipped Mon morning and hopefully soon I can post that they are in and send em to you all. I would really like to thank ALL participants in this. I would also like to state my amazement of the response, this was not the first "BUY" on this mold and I was not expecting to break 25 by much and we more than doubled the 25 hurdle.

I will post the rest of the orders as I recieve them, I think there are two more still on the way.

I especially want to thank Glenn for designing the boolit, we may not have been the first to benefit from his artwork, but we benefitted just the same.

Thanks again
Michael

[steveb]

:drinks: Give you guys something to look at while we wait.:drinks:


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/For%20Blogs/LEE-C358-180-RF.jpg

I havent got a chance to shoot any of these yet but it feeds and cycles flawlessly out of my Rossi 92.:-D

[jeff223]

i talked to a lady at Lee Precision yesterday and she told me there is a 90 to 120day wait at this time for them to fill these special orders.

i just thought i would let you guys know about this

[nighthunter]

steveb .... um.. umm ...um..um..ummmmm. Looks good.
Nighthunter

[357maximum]

Got check from 59932 today

[DEVERS454]

Ugh!! 4 Months!!!

Well, I might have to order some LBT stuff in the mean time. I figure a couple hundred should hold me good till fall.

[TedH]

Dang! That won't leave much time for experimenting before hunting season. I'd really like to try that out on a deer this fall.

[Poohgyrr]

Yup. I have the backyard all setup now. I can cast in the early mornings when it's cooler this summer & enjoy the fresh air. And Steveb's pictures have me going...

:drinks:

[357maximum]

Got checks from
65202
38001
today,

is that it? Anybody not see their digits that should have? Let me know, so you do not miss out,tomorrow it is time to cash a bunch of yall checks then monday my wife will send it out on her lunch break.

[9.3X62AL]

Sounds good, sir. Thanks again!

[357maximum]

Just sat down and endorsed 50+ checks and money orders, last time I wrote the same thing that many times it was on a chalkboard. YES, I know it may be hard to believe, but I did get in trouble at school. alot (something to do with a show me, prove it attitude).


I also printed up all the mailing labels, so when lee does get the molds to me I can ship them to you all. I know i have plenty of time to do it, but I wanted to make them up while I had both checks and envelopes to work with. trying to not mess this up, so I figured that was the best insurance. I numbered the envelopes as they arrived, boy I am glad I did that, it accidentally became a real good way to organize the pile, shipping, and molds to who and how many system. I used those avery 2"X4" labels cause I wanted your postman to be able to actually read where it needs to go. Looks real nice, not my normal style but nice all the same. When the molds get here all I have to do is slap them shipping labels on throw some tape on the lil box and go annoy the person at the post office. Theys' gonna love me

So basically my job is done (till the molds show up) unless I get a check in the mail tomorrow.


Michael

[TedH]

Well done Sir! Thank you for all your time and effort running this thing.

[357maximum]

The final check came today Sat June 3rd the lucky winner is
85224

[357maximum]

It is all in the hands of Lee now,

to be continued:::-D

[45Jack]

outstanding.
Thanks again.
Jack

[357maximum]

Just so you know>>>>

I called LEE today, trying to add a few molds to the order for some members who have contacted me since the cut off date, SORRY, I got a big N.O on that one...
She did tell me that it would be 4 months till the expected delivery date, so the rumors of 120 days seem to be true, DAGNABBIT..


Michael

[jeff223]

you would think Lee would bend over backwards for us on these mold deals.if you were to figure my two mold buys along with this one you will end up with a very high $$$$ figure.

there isnt anything we can do about it.its their call on the add ons

[Idahoser]

I'd consider accepting the order to be bending over backwards. Want to "group buy" a car? See how far you get?

[357maximum]

idahoser:
I never thought of it that way.

good point

She wasn't rude or anything, she simply said that the order had moved on to the mould room, and that basically those people who missed out are screwed (my words). You would think they could add a couple on, but whatever, they are the boss now. I am just thankful that lee has this sevice in the first place, so like I said WHATEVER.

Michael

[jeff223]

for those of you that missed out on the Ranch Dog mold deal and this mold deal there is a easy answer for this.someone could stepup to the plate and HONCHO another group buy http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[felix]

Already being considered. The same boolit except having a secent ogive which gives a LBT shaped nose for 500 yards plus. ... felix

[steveb]

Guys, Im at it again (sorry Ted:-D ) I know it will be a while but heres a couple more picts for us to take a gander at.:Fire: :Fire: :Fire: :drinks:


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/C358-180-RFgaschecked1.jpg



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/C358-180-RFgaschecked2.jpg

[TedH]

Steve, you could at least be gracious enough to go shoot some of those through your Rossi and give us some pics of the targets too.:-D :Fire:

[DEVERS454]

Its now middle of June, so, lets count out...

June-July
July-Aug
Aug-Sept
Sept-Oct
With ANY luck, we should have these bad boys in our hands just DAYS before Nov. 1 hunting season in most states for hunting forrest rats/tree varmit (aka "deer").

That is REALLY cutting it close.

Well, I just hope we can have our cheese-head friends in WI spin their tool heads a bit faster and get these out in late September or EARLY October. (at best)

[should have had the cutoff date earlier... taking notes on this for next time]

[357maximum]

"[should have had the cutoff date earlier... taking notes on this for next time]"

I was gonna cut it sooner, but the checks kept a rollin on in, and well sometimes I am a nice guy, I know what it feels like to miss a buy you wanted for whatever reason, it is really bad when you simply had your head up your @$$, been guilty of that and it kinda stinks in more than one way.

Michael

[steveb]

Michael, im sure the guys that got in on this deal at the last reallt appreciate you being a nice guy;)

[steveb]

Steve, you could at least be gracious enough to go shoot some of those through your Rossi and give us some pics of the targets too.:-D :Fire:


Ted, As soon as I get a few loaded up I will let you guys know the results. I've got way to many irons in the fire[smilie=1: :-D I havent got a chance to shoot my Rossi in over a month :( .... I need to change that!

[tom barthel]

"[should have had the cutoff date earlier... taking notes on this for next time]"

I was gonna cut it sooner, but the checks kept a rollin on in, and well sometimes I am a nice guy, I know what it feels like to miss a buy you wanted for whatever reason, it is really bad when you simply had your head up your @$$, been guilty of that and it kinda stinks in more than one way.

Michael

Michael, there is nothing wrong with being a nice guy. I didn't have the mold when I mailed the check to you. I would still not have the mold if I hadn't mailed the check. I'll have it when it gets here. I don't mind the wait at all.
Thank you for doing the work.
Tom:-D

[lar45]

Did somebody say targets?
http://www.lsstuff.com/misc/357rifle-180slow-01.jpg
Don't remember where I put the high velocity targets.

I like the idea of adding a secant nose to it. I have the original drawings and autocad files. Are you guys thinking of making the meplat smaller also?

I kept the nose length at .3" because anything longer wouldn't feed in my Rossi M92 With a different nose design, we might be able to make the nose longer and get more powder space in the case.

I haven't followed an discussion on changing the nose. Could someone point me in the right direction?
thanks.

[DEVERS454]

Its my understanding that these are "replicas" of the LBT design 180gr boolit.

Correct?

[steveb]

Ted....[smilie=1: For all you guys that got in on this group buy deal I finally got around to shootin some of these flat faced gas checked thumpers. I didnt get a chance to run them through the chrony , but I did test for accuracy.

The load I used was 11.4 Grains of WC820(n)and the Lee C358-180-RF weighed right at 188 grains with my homemade felix lube and gascheck. With zero leading. All shots were at 50 Yards and out of my Rossi 92 of course. This is the first load I've tried with this cast bullet but I'm definatly ready for Indiana to get in gear( read get head out of hind end) so I can use this rifle and take my first deer with it.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/TargetLee-C358-180-RF.jpg
:Fire:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/100_3192.jpg
:Fire:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/Hartford%2092/MaggieMae.jpg
:Fire:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/steveb3006/100_3203.jpg

[Newtire]

Steve...you are a very sick man to be taking pictures of all the boolits and cartridges gathering togehter like that and climbing on your press. I'm going out tomorrow and send some of my own "children" downrange. I ordered one of these moulds and don't even have a .357 gun. I tried one day to go maybe buy one but got "bushwacked" by first a Model 70 skulking on one of the racks and then there was this Ruger .44 Mag. rifle along with another Win. '94 30-30 AI that tackled me and drug me over to the sales counter. One of these days I'll get that .357!

[TedH]

Hot dang! Nice group Steve. Now I'm REALLY anxious to get my hands on that mold!

[Poohgyrr]

I have to add that pic of the lubed & checked bullets standing up, with the loaded round, for my screensaver....

:drinks:

[357maximum]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=8053

This is kinda scary, If it is OK with all of you I will check at random about 10 of the molds. I won't install handles, I will just gently place tham in my wood padded vise and pour some ww and sn mix in them to make sure they are ok before I send them, that way if there is a problem they can all go back together or whatever we decide IF we have to cross that bridge Hopefully we do not have to. I will thoroughly test mine, by doing a full casting session and then recording the results from a bunch of random samples, when they get here that is, I am starting to really want to play with these badly. I have some samples from Jeff223's mold from the last group buy, if our molds cast like his mold does we are golden, My 15 inch 357 max will onehole 10 of them at 100 yards, at 8 power on the gold line scope..when I did my part. I picked up a bunch of them tyvek envelopes to send them in, I got the idea when I bought one of the extra ..314-120 molds from willibird, that is gonna save me a ton of wrap up time, glad I bought that mold, them tyvek envelopes are tough.

Like the rest of you I am eagerly awaiting this mold...

Michael

[Idahoser]

Mine is likely to sit in the box for perhaps years before I ever get around to buying a furnace and such, so if you want to test mine I'd be proud, but then make sure and tell me what I have to do to preserve it.

(assuming I am in on this GB-- I think so?!)

[steveb]

Mine is likely to sit in the box for perhaps years before I ever get around to buying a furnace and such,

(assuming I am in on this GB-- I think so?!)

Wish I was just a little closer to you, we'd change all that!

[357maximum]

Mine is likely to sit in the box for perhaps years before I ever get around to buying a furnace and such, so if you want to test mine I'd be proud, but then make sure and tell me what I have to do to preserve it.

(assuming I am in on this GB-- I think so?!)



Del,

You are the proud owner of mould number 48, when it gets here that is.. you can quit assuming....

Michael

[Idahoser]

... you can quit assuming....
Thanks.
I pro'lly ought to be more selective where I spend money, not that this and the other molds aren't worth it, but being as I'm still not a caster, maybe I've jumped in the wrong end of the pool. I just hate missing out on something I MAY want someday...

My anniversary present from my wife was a no-lock 625-6 Mountain Gun .45 Colt at the gun show this weekend in Southaven. I had actually looked for that very thing and come to the conclusion that it didn't exist, that the lock came before they made these in Colt.

Obviously I was mistaken.

So now I'm back thinking about .45's again. And still not yet a caster. Gotta get my priorities straight.

[Poohgyrr]

My anniversary present from my wife was a no-lock 625-6 Mountain Gun .45 Colt at the gun show this weekend in Southaven. ::::::::: So now I'm back thinking about .45's again. And still not yet a caster. Gotta get my priorities straight.

Congrats on both your wife, and the .45... :drinks:

I've been trying to decide between a 4" .45 Colt, a 4" .44 Special, or something else... And then there are a couple of M92s I want as well.. :roll:

And for what it's worth, I bought some molds and things several years ago. They have been stored ever since. [smilie=1: Well, this forum is a big part in getting me to actually start casting, it just took a while to get started. I figure I have enough time to begin learning so I might know what I'm doing when retirement gets here. :mrgreen: :Fire:

[Idahoser]

Congrats on both your wife, and the .45... :drinks:

I've been trying to decide between a 4" .45 Colt, a 4" .44 Special, or something else... And then there are a couple of M92s I want as well.. :roll:
Actually 3" turns out to be the perfect barrel length for .44 Spl, if my Rossi 720 is any indication. We all sorta wonder why shooting that thing is addictive, I mean we enjoy shooting all the guns but man, that one calls to ya...

I aaaaaaaaaaaalmost bought a 696 at a previous gun show. It was harder to justify since I did have the 720 already and they're basically the same thing, of course it's not a Smith. It also was without lock, though, and it hurt to pass on it. Lucky I did, or I'd never have been able to get the 625.

[357maximum]

My computer is down for a couple of days, just so you all know. I do not want anyone to think this went greyarea or something. My harddrive is gone to a better place..


EDIT:
I am back, albeit in a limited capacity, the criminals at Hewlett Packard caused it all...they need to be prosecuted...


Michael

[chadbr]

Too late for me to get in on this one? I assume yes... anyone order an extra they want to unload? ;)

Chad

[357maximum]

Too late for me to get in on this one? I assume yes... anyone order an extra they want to unload? ;)

Chad


Yep, too late

We hope to see the moulds soon, in fact.

[steveb]

Welcome to the forum Chad:-D

[DEVERS454]

Chad,

The mold is very similar to what you can get from Cast Performance and Beartooth Bullets. They are the LBT design. (more or less)

I did order a couple of boxes from CastPerformance and have yet to load them up.

I too have a Rossi 92, like Steve, and can't wait to try it out. I will be using 11.5gr of W296 to start with.

[9.3X62AL]

A little discussion on another thread prompts this post.......my first attempts with this design will entail use of softer alloys, half WW and half unalloyed lead with the gas check in the Bishawk. I'm hoping things hold together accuracy-wise past 1200 FPS, to get some expansion on impact perhaps. Not so much a classic mushroom, just a rivet-up would be fine.

[45 2.1]

A little discussion on another thread prompts this post.......my first attempts with this design will entail use of softer alloys, half WW and half unalloyed lead with the gas check in the Bishawk. I'm hoping things hold together accuracy-wise past 1200 FPS, to get some expansion on impact perhaps. Not so much a classic mushroom, just a rivet-up would be fine.

Al-
The half/half alloy mushrooms very well with a deep hollowpoint 44 at 900 fps, proven on a deer last year. I have tested a 358429 hollow point on a road killed doe and got full penetration with nice expansion crosswise and kittycorner thru the rib cage in 38/44 type loads with this alloy also. I suspect you will have no problem at 1200 fps with a solid with air cooled boolits. This alloy will also expand in rifle calibers very nicely if water dropped.

[MT Gianni]

Al, I sold my LBT 180 FN that this is a near copy of after I bought one of theses in the 2nd group buy, by my count this is the 4th or 5th. They shoot the same and are accurate in a 4 5/8" blackhawk to well over 1350 fps but I have never slowed them down enough to see if it is accurate a 850-950 fps. One coyote is the sole animal shot with this and he took 1 step. Gianni.

[Old Ironsights]

When mine comes in it's going off to get one cavity pinned for a deep HP.

I'm looking to do some strange things with low velocity pure-lead HPs...

[DEVERS454]

I am thinking that with all the Lee mold coming out as fast as they are, we might actually see this mold before too long.

The TLC460 I ordered back a month and half ago is already in my hands.

Might be able to take delivery of these molds BEFORE hunting season.. maybe in Sept. (with any luck at all)

[357maximum]

I am thinking that with all the Lee mold coming out as fast as they are, we might actually see this mold before too long.

The TLC460 I ordered back a month and half ago is already in my hands.

Might be able to take delivery of these molds BEFORE hunting season.. maybe in Sept. (with any luck at all)




I sure hope you are right, after shooting boolits from Jeffs mold I am more anxious than ever, my max loves em from his mold, I can outshoot j boolits with them. The first couple of groups with both LILGUN, and VHIT N-120 had my mouth gaping wide on one side an a cheshire grin on the other. I said aloud "These expletive boolits just won't shoot" As I and my ol man approached the 100 yard pile he called my bluff, and me a liar.

I cannot wait to make this post:


"The molds are here the molds are here, and Lee got it right this time"....

I hope that is the headline anyway, from some of the new arrivals the folks at lee might be getting the clue, hope is all we have at this point...

Michael

[Little Doc]

357 i too am anxious for this mold to arrive. would you share some load data specifics with this bullet you have tried? i have a falling block works K action that i built into a 357 maximum back in the early 80's. i am real anxious to see how this bullet will perform in this gun. i will also use it in 357 mag. marlin cowboy for the little steel critters. any suggestions here.
i keep looking for your post telling us they have arrived. i guess we are all anxious. gona be a lota happy folks some day soon.
thanks for being the honcho.
little doc.

[steveb]

Michael, you got me all pumped up. I was just scanning down quickly through the newest posts and saw " The molds are here! The molds are here" Then I went back and read the rest of your post. Yea it shouldnt be to much longer I wouldnt think.

Little Doc, Welcome to the forum:-D

[357maximum]

357 i too am anxious for this mold to arrive. would you share some load data specifics with this bullet you have tried? i have a falling block works K action that i built into a 357 maximum back in the early 80's. i am real anxious to see how this bullet will perform in this gun. i will also use it in 357 mag. marlin cowboy for the little steel critters. any suggestions here.
i keep looking for your post telling us they have arrived. i guess we are all anxious. gona be a lota happy folks some day soon.
thanks for being the honcho.
little doc.


First of welcome to the asylum, and enjoy yourself.

My load that has performed thee best so far has been :

22.5 gr. H-LilGun
rem 7 1/2 primer


2091 FPS
SD of 29
and little tiny groups when I do my job, even out to 200 off the bench.

I will say work up to it safely, but I can also say I have gone beyond it a ways and gained nothing at all in a custom full bull 15 inch encore "PISTOL" that wears Harris bipods. It is really more of a hand rifle but for southern Michigan deer hunting it follows the rules, and that is its purpose in life..


SteveB

Ha, got you excited, and it wasn't even on purpose, just remember I am not laughing with you. Seriously though I am actually starting to pay close attention, watching for the big brown truck of happiness.


It should be soon....I hope


Michael

[357maximum]

THE MOLDS ARE IN

THE BIG BROWN TRUCK OF HAPPINESS WAS HERE TODAY...------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I HAVE CAST ABOUT 200 BOOLITS WITH ONE OF THE MOLDS I GRABBED AT RANDOM.

I will over the next couple of days do some casting and measuring, but the first mold looks good. It cast my 9 to 1 / ww to lino and water dropped at .3605 all the other dimensions measure up really close also. I simply degreased it smoked it and commenced to pourin, after about 20 pours she was slingin boolits so that one mold out of the middle of box 3 looks good. I will do some more testing and if all is well and I can get USPS click and ship figured out they will be shipped Monday thru Wednesday of next week. they will be shipped in the order the checks were recieved.
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The only thing BAD I have to report right now is that cavity number 3 on this mold had a burr that had to be leemented in the first lube groove, two minute fix and she was up and running full steam ahead...I simply spun a boolit it in with a self tap screw and we were off to the races.. Looking at some of the other molds, this burr is apparent there also, but is typical of a lee mold so nothing out of normal to report..
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All the molds have a "rough" finish where the sides of the lube grooves are concerned. It is nothing I have not seen in other lee molds and is par for the course I suppose. Like I said I simply put some jewelers rouge on a boolit and spun it a few times and everything was hunky dory. If any person has an issue with that area it will be up to said Individual to take it up with lee, I am happy and with a little leementing I am sure most of you will be too.
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I AM HAPPY WITH MY MOLD and hopefully it shoots as good as JEFFS' boolits did for me. I may get to shoot some yet this weekend if I do you will be informed of the results.

Thanks to all and I hope you like em' cause there comin at ya's..looks like LEE got it as close as they ever do, wich is perfect enough for me..

I will check my caliper readings tomorrow with dads mic just to make sure the caliper ain't lying, it is not the best unit out there, if there is a drastic difference I will report it.

Michael

[TedH]

WOOO-HOOO!!!!!!:Fire:

[steveb]

Thanks for the heads up Michael! YES!!!!!:-D

[Little Doc]

:-D thanks for the load info. and the welcome from both.
i am camped out by the mail box.

[Poohgyrr]

:drinks:

Awesome, my Lever is calling my name for a range visit anyway, and this will be fun.. Thanks for all the work too.

[Bodydoc447]

Dang it! All my casting stuff is buried in the garage under the moving boxes. It's gonna be weeks before I can get to melting lead again. I hope the PO forwards the replacement Ranch Dog 44, I didn't have a chance to send Jeff my new address. I have that, the Ranch Dog 45-70 mould and this one to get busy with. I bet I'll be able to get to it before too long. Especially with the hint of hunting season just around the corner.

Michael,
Thanks for all the work on this group buy!

Doc

[9.3X62AL]

That sounds all good to me, Michael. JOB WELL DONE, SIR!

[nighthunter]

357 ... Thats real good news to hear. The best part is that I'm on vacation next week and will probably have time for a good casting session. Thank you for all the work you put into this.
Nighthunter

[jeff223]

i went to the range today and shot with 357max.he wanted me to tell you all
"THE MOLDS WILL BE SHIPPED OUT SOON"he would of told you this himself but his computer is down again

it was fun shooting with him today.we burned up alot of powderhttp://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[357maximum]

JEFF: thanks for letting them know about my evil little box issues

It is still possessed, I have professional help coming monday.

As far as the molds are concerned they will be shipped ASAP, and starting Monday. I will have to ship through the Post office instead of click and ship like I had planned, but they will be shipped.

The boolits shoot good, although they are not perfectly round as cast, and there are a few burrs here and there to be leemented, you would think Lee made these molds. I shot some this morning and they shot just fine, the measurements are close enough for me, even though they are not perfectly round, they do shoot.

I also shot some with JEFF at the range fri, and they shot decent, even with the wrong charge,,,I tried downloading to see if I could gain more accuracy,,it did not work. Took charge back up to where it was before I had to screw with it AND TAHDAH I got my groups back. MY GUN is definately a 22.5 grains of lilgun with this boolit,, anymore makes it no better, any less makes it worse.


The molds will be shipped in three waves as to not overwhelm the guy behind the counter at the PO.. I hope you all are as happy as I am with them..

Michael


I may not be available for comments/questions until I hold the seance' and boot the poltergeist out of my computer,,,just a heads up....if that don't work I am gonna find out what these boolits will do to a computer.....

[contender85]

That sounds great Micheal, glad to hear that you are happy with the molds...am looking forward to receiving mine, handles for it are on their way and I'm off this week so with any luck maybe I'll have a chance to test drive it.

Good luck with your puter problems, and Thanks again for all the work you've put into making this group buy possible....job well done!

Mark

[steveb]

So what dia is the bullets dropping from the mold?? I plan on using staright air dropped WW. Thanks again for honchoeing this deal Michael!:drinks:

[357maximum]

So what dia is the bullets dropping from the mold?? I plan on using staright air dropped WW. Thanks again for honchoeing this deal Michael!:drinks:


9 to 1
ww to lino =.3590 to .3605 depending on "where" on the boolit you measure., and this was with over 30 boolits taken at random from 200 or so cast at one sitting. I would imagine air cooled ww would be a tad FATTER, but not much.

After I "SPUN" a boolit in the mold with jewelers rouge to remove burrs on the crimp groove and lube grooves I got a relatively uniform .3605 all around and my .3595 sizer would finally touch all the boolit. , before treatment they would not touch everywhere.

This has been typical with the leementing in four of their 6 cavities I have played with...it would be better with no burrs to begin with, but typical Lee..

Michael

[Yance]

[QUOTE=357maximum]Took charge back up to where it was before I had to screw with it AND TAHDAH I got my groups back. MY GUN is definately a 22.5 grains of lilgun with this boolit,, anymore makes it no better, any less makes it worse.

Michael;

Another "Thank you" for all the hassle you've gone through to ramrod this deal. Really looking forward to finding out how these shoot in my Marlin 1894C. May get to try them in the new EMF Hartford short rifle I picked up Saturday if I decide to keep it.

I'm sure you've mentioned and I've just overlooked it, but what rifle are you talking abou that likes the 22.5 gr of Li'l Gun?

Thanks

[steveb]

Hi Yance, nice lookin Rossi you got there!. You the same Yance over by Tycer way?? Havent seen you over on the leverguns forum in a while. Anyway, welcome to the forum!:castmine:

[Yance]

Hey Steve;

Yeah, Tycer's a Bud. We send a little lead downrange at my place when we can. He called my attention to this group buy when it started.

I watch this forum a good bit, just usually don't have much to say. Hard to come up with anything "new" around you guys.<G>

[Old Ironsights]

I'm sure you've mentioned and I've just overlooked it, but what rifle are you talking abou that likes the 22.5 gr of Li'l Gun?

Thanks
Well, it could be that, for some unknown reason, he's loading .357 Maximums... ;)

[357maximum]

I'm sure you've mentioned and I've just overlooked it, but what rifle are you talking abou that likes the 22.5 gr of Li'l Gun?


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357 max 15" custom encore "PISTOL"

[Yance]

OK, 15" Encore, gotcha. my Max is 10" Contender so I doube I'll see velocities like that.<G>

[357maximum]

UPDATE


all but a few of the molds have been shipped, the few remaining will go out tomorrow. The computer techy buddy of my buddies worked on it for alot longer than I thought he would, he is nothing if not persistant. He thinks I need a new motherboard, gonna try it and see....meanwhile I am running remote on begged borrowed and stolen puter time.


[smilie=1: I MADE AN OOPS ON ONE MOLD''''''',,,,someone got my test mold, it will look used, but will have a new sprueplate on it. I noticed a small burr on the sprue plate and installed a new one I had kickin around. If the recipient whoever he is wants a new mold, send that one back, and I will fix my oops...if on the other hand he wants an already leemented mold, just keep it and I will put the 20 minutes in to this mold. I had some help labeling and packing and one of us somehow grabbed my mold and labeled her up. I cast about 200 boolits with the mold and if you want a shiny one with burrs let me know and I will make it right. If you are happy with the sooty mold I am happy leementing this one, it is really up to you.[smilie=1:



ALL the molds have been shipped, and are enroute to you all...

[Tomhorn]

My molds have arrived. I am one happy camper, they look great. Hope to try them out this weekend if I can stand the heat. Thanks Michael for seeing this through, I really appreciate it.:-D :Fire: :drinks:

Mark

[9.3X62AL]

Well, all good. REALLY looking forward to running some metal through this critter, and still have seven weeks to find a load for that BisHawk x 7.5".

Thanks again, Michael!

[Johnch]

My 2 arived today ( 43445 ) :-D :-D :-D

I will test both this week end and then forward 1 to my freind .


Johnch

[Old Ironsights]

UPDATE

[smilie=1: I MADE AN OOPS ON ONE MOLD''''''',,,,someone got my test mold, it will look used, but will have a new sprueplate on it. I noticed a small burr on the sprue plate and installed a new one I had kickin around. If the recipient whoever he is wants a new mold, send that one back, and I will fix my oops...if on the other hand he wants an already leemented mold, just keep it and I will put the 20 minutes in to this mold. I had some help labeling and packing and one of us somehow grabbed my mold and labeled her up. I cast about 200 boolits with the mold and if you want a shiny one with burrs let me know and I will make it right. If you are happy with the sooty mold I am happy leementing this one, it is really up to you.[smilie=1:

Ghod, I hope it's me. If there's one thing I'm paranoid about it's Leementing... a term I'd never heard before. I really don't want to screw up this mold...

[Yance]

Ghod, I hope it's me. If there's one thing I'm paranoid about it's Leementing... a term I'd never heard before. I really don't want to screw up this mold...

Many times Lee moulds will have a slight "wire edge" that makes a very small burr at the edge of teh cavities. I usually remedy this by using a snug fitting plug of 0000 steel wool spun on the end of an appropriately sized stick. Chopsticks from that last trip to the Chinese buffet work great. Of the half dozen or so Lee moulds I've bought I don't remember one that didn't need some small amount of finish work of some kind before it'd operate like it should.

Good,
Fast,
Cheap.

Pick any two.

[steveb]

Dont worry, it will probably be me that gets it. I have seen it done and tried to put it in the mental rolodex and can do the sprue plate, outside and top of blocks but still dont feel comfortable with the cavities but im on the verge:twisted: .:-D

[steveb]

Old Ironsights, there is a sticky on this very thing you can check out for more info....Steve.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=3172

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=654

[357maximum]

SteveB: I am pretty sure you are not getting it, cause I remember labeling yours, my wife must have grabbed the used mold and labeled it off the coffe table where it was laying.

I am thinking the mold went out west,because that is about when I laid my boxed mold on the coffee table. I am waiting to use the mold I have here until I know what the recipient of my oops wants to do. I am going to wait a few days and if I do not hear any complaining, I am going to start using it, cause I really need some boolits... and the extra mold I ordered got snatched 10 minutes after I shippped the order to lee. I have almost 1000 pieces of brass waiting for this boolit and some LilGun..I want to be intimate with this combo by the 15th of November..and times a wastin..So iffin ya's goin to complain, do so rapidly so we can get the issue fixed, if not this mold too will be used. I cannot see anyone being upset, but you just never know, now do ya?

Personally I would rather have the sooty mold with the brand new perfect sprue plate as it is ready to mould, but it will be quicker, and cheaper to just "FIX" the one I have here..just like I did on the used mold, but like I said it is up to the recipient to whether or not he wants to leement it hisself or not, if he acts soon, because I am really in dire need of some projectiles...:mrgreen:

Michael

[Yance]

Michael;

Well, as Maxwell Smart would say; "Missed it by that much". Your Leemented mould was one of the two shipped to Tycer in Asheville, NC. As MY luck would have it, he grabbed the old sooty one with the grayish sprueplate out of the package first, leaving the shiney new one for me. I'm on the phone with him right now and I think you'd get some argument from him about swapping.<G> He said go ahead and use the new mould, he's just as happy with a dirty used mould .

[steveb]

I got mine in the mail today(47270) and I looked in the third cavity but saw no burr. I will have to inspect closer I guess. Thanks Michael for your efforts on this deal!:drinks:

[357maximum]

Well, I am sure glad that is settled, just one more time in my life when I worried without need. The ol lee pot will get warm tonight...


Thanks guys this has been fun, and I hope you all have good luck with your efforts. We ended up with a few dollars left in the kitty, it will go to help support this wonderful site. A big thanks to those who sent a little extra, and you know who you are,without it we would have come up a lil short, because of the deliver conformation I could not get for free, because my computer died. it will go to good use.....a check will be sent to the admin

my advise to those who have contacted me since the buy has been over is to wait awhile and pick up the reigns and run another buy on this nice boolit..it is really not that big a deal to honcho one of these buys, it takes a little time yes, but no big deal really.. there is around 11 or 12 interested parties already


Thank you's should go to the buyers not me, it was for selfish reasons I ran this thing. I wanted the mold, pure and simple and this was the only way I could get it without paying the extra for the setup fee. ...THANK YOU ALL...

These group buys are simply brilliant, and I will go broke getting the ones I "NEED".

Thanks again

Michael

[475/480]

:sad: I have not recieved mine yet, Have all the moulds been sent out.

Not jumping the gun here, I see some were sent out 8-23 so it could easily be next week.

Sean

[357maximum]

All the molds are enroute, you should see it pdq, if not let me know, I have the confirmation slips right here. Wed was when the last of em went out..but most were sent monday and tuesday, and the only reason some had to go on wed was the post office was backing up, and not wanting to be "THAT GUY" I came back in wed morn to finish up.

Michael

[steveb]

I checked my mould again and have burrs or indents? on three cavities it looks like at the lube grooves. But only on one of the mould halves. The other half there looks to be none at all.

[TedH]

Got mine today {65202} Hope to try it out tomorrow. Thanks!

This will be my first go of a LEE 6 holer. Looks like it should make a fine slug.

[rmb721]

Mine arrived today. (17747) Thank you. I will try it out sometime in the next few days.

[gbair]

Michael,

Mine arrived today. Got it ready and cast 200-300. Can't wait to try them in my .357 and my 35 Rem Contender barrels. Waiting for my frame to come back from Thompson/Center...........ARGH Warranty work!!!

Thanks for being the honcho on this one,
Greg

[dragonrider]

Got mine today, 01525, cast a few today, but it needs some work, diameter seems good but they don't drop out well at all, so gotta lap it, I took the burrs off but it needs more. It's a good lookin boolit and I am quite sure I will be happy with it.
Thanks for all your hard work.

[Muskrat Mike]

Mike, I got my today in time for my birthday! Cast about 300 already and like it!
Thank you very much! I appreciate all your efforts.:-D

Mike

[TedH]

Tried mine out today after removing some sizable burrs. Man, that thing is rough inside. Definitely will need some leementing. Does make a sweet looking bullet though. Mine are dropping at 182 grains. Going to try and send some downrange tomorrow.

[LIMPINGJ]

Went to the P.O. today and mine was in the box. Not to rough looking so should not take much work to get it going.
Jim
Zip 75440

[357maximum]

Went to the P.O. today and mine was in the box. Not to rough looking so should not take much work to get it going.
Jim
Zip 75440


Some were definately "rougher" than others, but they should all leement nicely. Luck of the draw as to how much work was involved, though. I did quite a bit of leementing on this mold I have here "now", but she shaped up nicely, not as easily as the first one, but she came around all the same, and she is throwing good boolits now, and dropping out real well, unless I get it too hot. I have been casting with two different lee 6 bangers at a time so that the wait time is nil.

Load one sit it down to cool, load the other, sit it down to cool, empty no1 refill sit it down, etc etc etc....works real well...even for an impatient soul..speed casting with the wet towel method, I have never beem able to not tear the base so I went to this system, and it works..plus you can feed two guns at the same time.

Loaded some up with soft-ish lead pipe alloy for the max tonight, will report success or failure as soon as I shoot them.

Michael

[475/480]

Got mine and cast about 100 to check weight and size.

Weight 186-187gr- straight WW
Size .358-.360
Perfect for my TC Contender 358 GNR (445 SM necked down to 357)

Sean

[old goat]

...Received mine in today's mail (Mon. 8-28-06). Had #43 on label. Thanks.


...old goat

[contender85]

Got mine today too...looks good, with any luck maybe I'll get to try it out tomorrow after work.

Thanks again, Michael I really appreciate it!

Mark

[Idahoser]

38134 arrived safely! Be a while before I put it to use.

Thanks much!

[Bodydoc447]

79424 arrived yesterday afternoon. Thanks, Michael!!

Doc

[45Jack]

60411 arrived and looks good.
Jack:-D

[nighthunter]

Mine got here Tuesday. Haven't had a chance to heat it up but that won't be for too much longer. Looks like a real good bullet and I'm gonna give it a work out in my 35 Remington 14" Contender barrel. Should also be very good in a couple of 357 Mags I have hidden around here somewhere. LOL ... I know right where they are. Thanks again Michael. Gonna try that lube you sent me with those bullets. I think its gonna be a good combination.
Nighthunter

[waksupi]

Got mine. I didn't remember getting in on this one, but whut da heck? The more, the merrier.

[Poohgyrr]

:drinks:

Mine's here too. As much as I like the other calibers, the .357 is my most used round, in both Handy, & Lever guns. A bucket of empty brass is waiting.... :Fire:

[Newtire]

Got mine today. Don't have a .357 cal. Last time went looking for one, came home with .44 mag & .30-30 Ackley Improved. Sure looks nice though! Will cast up a bunch for when I get that .357 rifle. got my eye on a Marlin. Should be about right for my gal's Christmas present eh guys?

[Pepe Ray]

It seems that the last of the molds were sent out on the 24th. Right?
Well--- it's been a week. I'm being patient, -- sort of, anxious, maybe.
Oh well , maybe tommorrow.
Pepe Ray
P.S. I knew that I lived in the boonies , but---?

[Pepe Ray]

ditto !!!

[9.3X62AL]

Mine arrived yesterday, in good order. THANKS AGAIN, Max!

[Pepe Ray]

Thanks Deputy Al,
You've strengthened my resolve. It'll get here on Tue. next.
Pepe Ray

[357maximum]

PepeRay

If it is not there tues, let me know and we will do a confirmation looksee..

Michael

[Yance]

Anybody else notice????????

After having my new mould in possession for abou two weeks I finally had time to heat it up today. Cool and VERY rainy here so no range time for me and Tycer, so I figured I try out the mould.

Burrs weren't too bad so all I did was spin 0000 steel wool on an old bore brush in each cavity. 1 small chip protruding from two of the cavities didn't come out, but judicious application of a screwdriver blade took care of them.

After reaching temp the mould cast nicely but still took 5 or 6 sharp whacks with a lightweight wood mallet to release all 6 bullets. No consistancy in which cavities were being stubborn so it wasn't because of rough edges on the cavities.

Cosmeticly the bullets look really good. Trouble came when I dragged out the mic. All six cavities are consistantly .005-.006 out of round. There's that much difference from one side of the parting line to the other. If you take the average, the bullets would be about .3595 since the smallest diameter runs .3565-.357 and the largest is .362-.3625.

"A little disappointed" in Lee would be somewhat of an understatement. This is the first group buy I've been in on, and it'll probably be my last. I think I'd rather put a few more $$ toward having Dan Lynch cut me a GOOD two cavity that makes round bullets than having a six holer that drops "plinking" bullets.

[TedH]

Well, it's not all the molds. Mine drop from the mold at .359" across the narrow and .360" at the widest point. I would not mind them being a tad fatter, but they will prolly end up about perfect by the time I get the cavities smoothed out enough to drop the bullets easily.

[steveb]

Well, it's not all the molds. Mine drop from the mold at .359" across the narrow and .360" at the widest point. I would not mind them being a tad fatter, but they will prolly end up about perfect by the time I get the cavities smoothed out enough to drop the bullets easily.


I measured one of mine and it measures .358-.361 at widest.

[Yance]

Sent mine back to Lee today. Noticed some play in alignment pin/socket at the sprue plate pivot end. Guy I talked to said it sounded like it wasn't closing completely, but if that had been the case they'd have just been fatter perpendicular to the parting line rather than offset AT the parting line.

Hope to be able to check it out again by teh end of next week. Lee's REALLY good about customer service from what I've read. I had a special order sizer delivered in about a week as opposed to the 3 or so weeks they'd stated.

We'll see.

[45Jack]

First batch of mine seemed to be in the .357 - .3575 area.
That's with straight WW's.

Next batch will be 50/50 lead/lino see if alloy makesa difference.
J

[Yance]

Got my "repaired" mould back from Lee in 8 days. "Thought" I might have detected traces of the smoke I'd put on it before I sent it in, but couldn't be sure. It was in a new box, (I'd stamped my name and address in and on the original one), and the new one came back marked "358 180gr". I couldn't detect the nicks that had been in a couple of the cavities, and the "offset" of the blocks came out .001"-.0015", diameter .359"-.3595". Sizing them in a .359 just barely polishes the bands, and the offset shows on most of them. I can live with .001" out.

Haven't made it to the range yet to see how they shoot in my Marlin and EMF Hartford. Spent my last two days off trying to make a place for the truckload of casting/reloading stuff I bought last week.

[tom barthel]

I've not measured my bullets yet. They shoot ok. I have noticed only one side of my bullets seem to contact the sizer. They must be slightly out of round. I do need to beat on the mold to get it to release. The very hard bullets release without much beating. The only major problim I have is a broken sprue lever. I'm going to send it to lee for a replacement. I didn't think I was strong enough to break it through normal use.

[45Jack]

I have noticed only one side of my bullets seem to contact the sizer. They must be slightly out of round.

Yeah, I've got the one sided sizing thing going on too.:-?
Jack