Lead Ingots For Sale - Buyer's Choice

[TheCaptain]

Hello,

Up for sale are 50+LB+ packages of range lead and wheel weight ingots.

Price: $52.00 (per "50+LB package") shipped to anywhere the U.S.P.S. Flat Rate Priority box goes.

For further information please refer to post #11 & 13

Insurance is extra if desired: $1.75 - but I have yet to lose a package in the mail and I have shipped 100's in the past few years (as far as Hawaii, Alaska, and Germany).

I request payment by USPS Money Order please.... me being optimistic that I will get some sales! If interested, kindly respond to this post; SPF. I reserve the right to limit the number of packages per buyer. Additionally, I don't want to overwhelm my local post office with too many packages in a given week :groner:

Some information in regard to the Wheel Weight ingot:

Although cast in my signature bullet lead mold, rest assured that the lead I am selling is derived from lead wheel weights.. The bottom of each ingot is punched with an awl to indicate it is wheel weight lead (just in case I have a "senior moment"). I do not run a "hot pot" so the zinc and other alloyed weights are skimmed off from the top of the pot. Here is what Mike (Mikenbarb) had to say about my WW lead:

" ... and the WW lead she sells works great in my pistols and the lead is even clean enough to use in a Littleton shot maker. I did the Saeco hardness testing for her and it all comes out around the standard WW BHN. "

Some information in regard to the Range Lead ingot:

I must note that I do pick up lead from a few indoor ranges:
I can say is that some ranges shoot mostly .22's, while some ranges shoot a more balance mix - ranging from .22 on up to .45acp. I am far from being an expert in regard to the hardness and properties of the lead reclaimed so I hope this description will suffice.

A forum member recently tested my range lead ingots derived from 2 different indoor ranges. His tester is a Lee. The lead from one range was a mix of many years, due to not cleaning out the range. That sample tested at 13.4 and the other (lead cleaned out twice a year), tested at 11.

The average weight of the ingots are around 3.5 pounds. Some may be a few tenths of a pound heavier, and others can weigh around 2.5+ pounds. Just depends upon the pour. The dimensions are approximately 7" long x 1.5" wide x 1" high.

And if you are reading this, I thank you for looking!

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:

[45nut]

A Bargain!

[bearcove]

I'll take two packages of wheel weights

[Bob Krack]

Kathie,

Glad to see ya again. If you can possibly do it, keep the stick ons separate from the clip ons. Many are willing to pay a little more for the softer lead.

Cheers and then some,

Bob

[TheCaptain]

Hi Bob,

What do they say, a day late and a dollar short????? YES, I do agree with you 100% to keep the clipons separate from the stickies. I had over 900LBS of WW's that I casted the last time around; and it dawned on me (at the very tail end.................) to cast stickies separate from the clipons.... DUH on my part!!!! However, I did salvage enough stickies to make up 25 pounds of ingots; and 150+ pounds of ingots cast only from stickon's.... and sold them on the forum.

Because I deal in such high volume, and BEFORE I became better educated... I did not know that there is a "difference". And I also marketed to people who make fishing sinkers, and they were happy to have the "mix". However: Never too late to learn.... AND I HAVE LEARN A LOT BY THE GREAT PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM, including yourself.

But, right now, I have to deal with the "error of my ways" and sell the WW lead - which is not a lost cause since I believe some boolit casters find this type of lead OK for their particular application.

Take care, and I thank you for your pearls of wisdom.

With kind regards,

~ Kathie
:Fire:

[TheCaptain]

Hi!

Please send me a PM - and we can exchange information.

THANKS A BUNCH.

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:

[stubshaft]

Kathie - Sent message from other posting. Will take 1 box of range lead. PM sent

[iron mule]

hello kathie sent you a pm any questions just
thanks for the service you give us here
mule

[TheCaptain]

I thank you for your PM - and your compliments. You are very kind!!!!

Take care for now!

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:

[iron mule]

well what can i say/// recieved the lead today all 4 boxes ww and range lead// was one of the best packing jobs i have seen in a while no boxes torn or broken open, all was well packed and padded // the lead ingots were very clean and well prepared/// you can't go wrong with getting your lead here// nice job / will be dealing with kathie again
mule

[TheCaptain]

** Start of note 01/04/2010 **

As of 01-04-2010, the USPS has increased their flat rate priority prices.

THUS, shipping has increased from $9.85 to $10.20 for the Medium size box.

From this point forward, the cost of my lead SHIPPED will be $52.00 per 50LB package. I have incurred an increase in my shop rent and price paid for raw lead, my aim is to have an attractive price for my lead ingots and to be of help to all of you.... and I believe the offering price of my lead is a fair price. A price which is fair to you (the customer) and to me as a seller. If any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to send me a PM or post here. Thanks!

Please note: if you are interested in purchasing lead, kindly see my thread in the "Selling and Swapping" section of the forum since I plan to have this Vendor ad deleted. Thanks!

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:

** End of note for 01-04-2010 **

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[Bullshop]

G'Day Mam
I have been buying from members here as they offer but it is rather a bit helter skelter though trying to find any regularity to availability and also to consistency of alloy.
I have a custom casting business in Alaska and need a more regular source.
I am interested in making arrangements for a steady supply.
My needs are for both WW alloy and also very soft lead that for practical purposes could be considered pure.
Last week I got 300 lbs of WW from a member but that was all he had.
I would like to try a couple hundred lbs of WW alloy if you have it available.
If it is what I need then I would expect to buy a couple hundred lbs per month average.
I shut down my shop in the summer because we have too many subsistence chores too get done but cast commercially from October to April.
I would most likely keep buying through out the summer just to stay ahead on inventory.
I am anxious to hear from you.
Thanks
BIC/Daniel

[TheCaptain]

Hello,

As of Feb 5, 2010:

One "50+LB" package of WW clipon lead or Range Lead, delivered to your door is $52.00
I am requesting payment via USPS Postal Money Order. Any other type of money order WILL be returned to the customer, unless arrangements are made in advance and agreed upon. Any unsolicited funds will be returned to sender - all sales have to be approved in advance of payment.

I am limiting quantities of WW lead ingots to 1 package per customer.

There is a waiting list for the WW but no waiting list for my range lead.

WW lead ingots are cast from the same custom mold as my range lead - but the bottom side will have a small punched hole to denote that the ingot was cast using WW lead.

At this time, I have to wait for warmer weather to cast up approximately 600 pounds of WW lead.

In regard to my lead. Various people have tested my WW clip on lead ingots and the hardness is pretty much standard for WW: around 9BHN. << update: 2/23/2010 - please see post 18. Thanks! >>

In regard to the hardness of my range lead, current tests show it to be in a range of 12.5 to 15 BHN. In November 2009, I bought a Cabine Tree tester and the lead tested at around 12.5 BHN. Another forum member (using a Cabine Tree tester) also got 12.5 BHN. A custom boolit shop owner did a test, and he came up with 15BHN.

I will advise that I am no "expert", and I have done the best I can to describe my lead. I rely on the customer to do their own tests {if necessary} and make adjustments accordingly. My previous venue was that of fishing sinkers and I found that there was no need to be so detailed.

If my lead does not "work out" for you, I will refund money by the pound for ingots returned. However, since I started selling in Feb. 2006, I have yet to have anyone do any returns.

* * * * (3/5/10) Please note: the ingots can vary in "height" due to the pour. I sometimes do short pours, and I end up with an accumulation of ingots weighing anywhere from around 1.5LBS to around 2.5 to 3 pounds. The average weight of my ingots are around 3.6 LBs, give or take a few 10ths of pound. I MAKE NO GUARANTEE THAT ALL INGOTS IN THE BOX WILL BE AROUND THE 3.6 LB AVERAGE WEIGHT. (end note) * * * *

Here is the WW list as reconstructed:



(WW)
(1) Shootinxd - PM rec'd 3/8 for order - we spoke on 9th - SPF will wait till 3/23 which I think is reasonable time frame, before moving to next person.
(2) AriM - sent a PM 3/12 and responded to. Thanks!!!!
(3) SteveB2025 - sent a PM 3/12
(4) Von Dingo - sent a PM 3/14
(5) Wayne S
(6) Pack3480 .
(7) bulletmaker
(8) Turbo1889 .

= = => 3/18/2010 When the above list is exhausted, I've decided to no longer keep a waiting list. I went off on a tangent months ago, for several reasons. One reason was due to my having raw WW's on hand but the cold weather preventing me from casting. For the future, I plan to advertise WW lead for sale after I have the ingots cast. I will start a thread like: "I have X amount of 50LB packages up for sale, first come - first served, sales will be done via PM only." In other words, doing ONLY a reply to the post will not be a part of "first come, first served" .... in order to be "counted", one needs to send me a PM. This is because (in the past), some people sent PM's and did not "reply" to the post, and some did a "reply" to the post and did not send a PM. So, this was another reason why I ended up developing a waiting list. Mostly this is my fault, being a newbie to selling on the forum (unlike doing auctions). I had all good intentions with the waiting list, tried to be fair to all, but it did have its drawbacks as well, some of which are noted above. Oh, I would like to mention that I still reserve the right to limit quantities. I thank you in advance for your understanding. <=== note end 3/18/2010


I did have some nice feedback in the thread that was in the Swappin and Sellin section of the forum (but is gone, for the moment...), so this brings up a point that is important to me. I welcome all feedback, and it can be posted here in this thread.... but I would really appreciate feedback to be listed in the Straightshooters and Deadbeats portion of the forum as well. I thank you in advance for your understanding.

Any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact me by way of a PM.

Additionally, anyone who is interested in purchasing my lead, kindly send me a PM. In the case of WW ingots, I will then add you to the waiting list (there is absolutely no obligation to buy).

I do not take monies in advance - - I don't want to deal with the recordkeeping of holding funds for lead that I do not have in stock. When I have lead ready to ship, it is at that time I will make payment arrangements (on a 1 to 1 basis) by way of a PM.

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:
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[deltaenterprizes]

PM sent. I would like one lot of range lead

[TheCaptain]

Thanks!!! PM has been sent to you.

~ K :Fire:

[arjuna70]

PM sent......

[Vance in Ak]

Kathie, just out of curiosity do you have a BHN on the WW?

[TheCaptain]

Hi Vance,

I am new to testing; did a few readings with my Cabine Tree tester; I get between 12 and 14 for the BHN. I am no expert by far! For the few readings I took, the dial came in at .078 and chart has .074 to .076 as 12.5 BHN (est), and .080 to .083 = 14 BHN (est).

According the reference sheet: New WW 12.5 -est (taken at 1 day, by Cabine ) and Aged WW (14) est (taken after several months).

My ingots have been kicking about for a couple of months; and it is anyone's guess as to the age of the "raw" WW-s; and according to the cross reference sheet, Cabine Tree states: "WW (wheel wts) vary in composition and your results may vary slightly."

And I must emphasize that I am a newbie at testing; I start the reading as soon as I sense the point touching the ingot - but I realize I have to develop a consistent technique... which takes practice.

All in all, I do my best to describe my lead and leave the final tests up to the boolit caster, who I believe can make adjustments accordingly.

Not sure if this helps; I believe the final answer rests with the boolit caster and his/or her tester.

With kind regards,

~ Kathie:Fire:

[TheCaptain]

Test.

[Vance in Ak]

Test.

You passed[smilie=w:

[hamour]

I have bought two boxes of WW and two boxes of range lead from "The Captain" and both products are great. Good clean lead.

I cast the range lead as is in a NOE 358429 mold. To get proper fill out I had to raise the temperature a few degrees but they came out great. In my .38 special loading I put 4.2grs unique behind this 177gr boolit and got no leading. Went to 5.0 grs and got bad leading.
Accuracy was OK, this big bullet likes speed, but the alloy was great for normal 38 special velocity. I added 2.5 % tin and put 10grs 2400 behind this bullet and accuracy improved and no sign of leading.

I added 2.5% tin to the WW ingots and was able to replicate the 38/44 HD loads of Elmer Keith with no leading out of my Mod 27's and 28's I settled on 11.5grs 2400, no leading.

The Captains lead is great and price is good, try some you will not be sorry.

[TheCaptain]

Dear Hank,

I thank you for taking the time to write about your experience with my lead ingots.

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:

[TheCaptain]

Hello,

I've received questions in regard to tests done in regard to my Range Lead.

Various people have tested my range lead. The majority arrived at figures ranging from around 11 BHN to 15BHN. One person arrived at 12.5BHN using a Cabine Tree tester. I am a newbie, but back in Nov. 2009, I bought a Cabine Tree tester. And I too arrived at 12.5BHN. Bullshop tests came in at 15BHN. Also, another forum member recently tested my range lead ingots derived from 2 different indoor ranges. His tester is a Lee. The lead from one range was a mix of many years, due to not cleaning out the range. That sample tested at 13.4 and the other (lead cleaned out twice a year), tested at 11.

I must note that I do pick up lead from a few indoor ranges and so I can't make an absolute guarantee that the BHN numbers will be the same. But what I can say is that some ranges shoot mostly .22's, while other ranges shoot a more balance mix - ranging from .22 on up to .45acp. I am far from being an expert in regard to the hardness and properties of the lead reclaimed so I hope this description will suffice. I do my best to describe my lead and leave the final tests for hardness up to the customer.

In regard to Wheel Weight lead hardness: as I have already indicated in post 16, some forum members reported back to me that it tests at around 9BHN. However, I am getting readings higher, and because I am a newbie, apparentely I am not yet consistent with that first touch of the point on the lead. I am getting around 12-14 BHN.

The Cabine Tree Lead Hardness Cross Reference sheet states:

New WW 12.5 (est)
Aged WW 14 (est).

WW vary in composition and your results may vary slightly. The new WW reading was taken at 1 day and the old was taken after several months.

Perhaps some forum members who have purchased my WW lead and, if they read this, may post their results here in this thread. Again, I am a newbie, I describe my lead to the best of my ability. I don't know the age of the WW's when I collect them (impossible), so it is a mixed bag. I would like to think that a boolit caster can make the necessary adjustments? Selling to boolit casters is a new venue for me. Previously, most of my lead was sold to people who cast fishing sinkers; and I did custom 25 pound ingots for use in weighting race cars and as ballast in fishing boats. I am trying to help people out here, and I feel that I offer my lead at a very fair price. As I mention in post 16:

I will advise that I am no "expert", and I have done the best I can to describe my lead. I rely on the customer to do their own tests {if necessary} and make adjustments accordingly. My previous venue was that of fishing sinkers and I found that there was no need to be so detailed.


I gladly accept returns and will refund money (by the pound) for any unsmelted ingots returned, in addition to return postage up to $10.20. However, I have never, ever had anyone return my lead to me since I started my casting operation back in Feb. 2007.

However, I ask you NOT to purchase my lead if you have any reservations in regard to "working with it" after I have done my best to describe my lead, in addition to report what other Boolit casters have determined in regard to the hardness of my lead. I have a steady supply of customers outside of this forum that I can sell to (at a higher price), so I don't need any undue drama over BHN's.

It is what it is.

With kind regards,

~ Newbie Kathie :Fire:

[cephas53]

Just received a box of range lead today. Melted some down, clean and cast well. Good person to deal with. Excellent communication, stout packaging, good product. Thanks

[uscra112]

Interested in range lead, Kathie. P/M me for details. please ?

[TheCaptain]

Received your PM and responded to same.

And if you determine that my lead is suitable, I will be here for ya!

Thanks a bunch.

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:

[TheCaptain]

To those patiently waiting............

Warmer weather is predicted, so I plan to start casting this weekend. [smilie=w:

I sorted through the raw WW's I had on hand.... and took some pictures to share.

I have to go back to my records to see how much everything weighed at the time of pickup; then I re-weigh the stuff prior to casting; and I weigh the "waste". And after smelting, I do another weigh in (ingots and waste). This way, I get an idea of my yield as a percentage to the initial weight with all the junk that was thrown in.

I will report the figures at a later time.

I arrived at 3 trays of stickies; and 13 trays of clipons.

Take care for now.

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:
* * * (3/5/10): this just in. The 13 trays of clipon wheel weights weighed in at approximately 477.3 LBS. The 3 trays of stick ons weighed in at approximately 104.5 LBS. The zinc and alloys are at about 6.1 LBS. The steel WW weights came in at about 22.7 LBS. And one customer buried obsolete cones (used on the balancing machines) into one bucket that I discovered when pouring the bucket into my trays in his presence. This was a new manager, so he probably did not realize I was going to empty out the buckets in his presence after weighing and paying. So, to the steel, I figure I have another approx. 20LBS of waste (the cones left behind).

After smelting, I weigh the dross (which will include the steel clips). Then I can figure my average yield of ingots.

Stay tuned............. end note (3/5/10)

[358wcf]

It's Chuck again, and I noticed you had a few "stickies" in your bins--
IF they are not spoken for, could I persuade you to set some aside for me? Your soft lead "stickies" are perfect for my needs, so- no hurry at all, but just let me know IF you can spare any, and how much $$ to send. If you've promised them to another, I will be patient 'til next time.
Your lead is the best in my opinion, and it is a true pleasure to deal with you, every time- Keep up the good work, friend, and THANK YOU in advance.
Chuck Vatnsdal
358wcf [smilie=1:[smilie=1:[smilie=1:

[TheCaptain]

.... your very kind words!!!

I've added you to the stickon list (post #13 of this thread).

DCP is ahead of you.

The first 50LBS will go to DCP, and the next 50 (or partial) are yours. I did not yet weigh up the lead, but will be doing so shortly.... and I will report back how many pounds I have.

I will soon be busy as a bee!

In closing, I again thank you for your compliments.

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire:

[TheCaptain]

The price of my lead has been increased as noted in post 1, 11, and 13.

I have sent PM's to all of the people on the WW waiting list advising of this price increase and if they would like to "opt out". I will truly understand anyone wanting to be removed from the list because of this price increase.

With kind regards to all,

~ Kathie :Fire:

[SmuvBoGa]

I have bought WW's from Cap'n Kathie. Class Act. Good lead, good weight - - from what I can read BHN is 11/12 (bifocals & that Lee scope don't mix well).

She is "good folks"

JohnMc

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

PM send
I would like 50 lbs of soft lead from stick-on wheel weights or "stickies" as you call them.
please put me on your waiting list, if you have one.
Jon

[TheCaptain]

...PM received and responded to.

Thanks!

~ K

[TheCaptain]

.... to see note added on 3/18/2010.

Thanks!!

With kind regards,

~ Kathie :Fire: