Buckshot
04-15-2006, 08:56 AM
.............I'm pretty well stocked up on sundry cast boolit's but danged if I hadn't run through all my 'pre-loaded' stuff I can grab to shoot for the Tuesday Burrito Invitational match. As a consequence the past couple of weeks I've been suggesting 22RF. So this past Tuesday we shot the unheard of. That is 22RF with scoped rifles, OFF THE BENCH! Egads, how depraved?
Someone never gets the word so Larry showed up with his M44 Mossberg military trainer wth iron sights. I offered the use of my rifle but he said nah, he'd campaign the old Mossberg. Deputy Al used his new (to him) M581 Remington, I shot a M582 Remington and Glen used a M75 Winchester.
Glen is a funny one. He likes to win. Well I mean we ALL like to win, but Glen REALLY likes to win :-D. He'd called me up the week before and said he'd been trying to put scope blocks on a M513T he has and twisted off a screw in the barrel. I was surprised he was trying to get that particular rifle set up. Not that it isn't a nice one but he has a Stevens 44 1/2, Remington M37 Rangemaster (which I lust after), M52 Winchester, and the M75 Winchester in 22RF. All are set up to take the Lyman Targetspots or Unertl's of which he has 5-6.
So anyway I got that all taken care of and he shows up with the M75 wearing a 22X Unertl? We had fun shooting the match. Deputy Al shot Federal Bulk 550 rnds/brick for a 100/something-X (sorry, I forgot). Larry shot a 99-2X and used Winchester Dynapoints. I shot a 100-4X with Dyna-Points and Glen shot a 100-7X with CCI Green Tag. It wouldn't have surprised me if he'd gone and spent $10 on some Eley 10-X to win a $4 pot [smilie=l:
We lost one of our Burrito Shooters as Shooter451 had to go back to work full time. He's agitating to get Tuesdays off, but he said he's not making much headway.
I had finally been successfull in getting all my Snider brass loaded up and got to shoot them all up Tuesday. I think it was 38 rounds I had, in 3 batchs. One batch was some I'd shot out of my 3 band Snider a couple years ago. I just tossed the uncleaned brass in a box and they sat in the cabinet above the reloading bench since. I did finally clean them up before reloading but they were a scruffy lot. I lost 3 of those to neck splits.
I think I had 8 unfired and sized but primed with the really bad CBC #56 Berdan primers, and then 23 unfired 209 primer conversion cases. The old scruffy ones got loaded with 80.0grs of 1fG Goex, then a 50-50 mix of BP and Cream of Wheat (COW), which was then compress about 1/2". A cardwad, lubed felt wad, another cardwad and then the swaged Lee target Minie'. All the loads used this Minie' and the lube was all in thebase cavity as they're a smooth Pritchit style slug.
The other 2 groups of brass got 85.0grs of 2Fg Elephant with the 50-50 Cow-BP and cardwad & lubed felt wad treatment. They looked neat and I took a picture of'em but haven't up loaded it yet.
Boy, that littel Snider carbine can bellow and roar! [smilie=w:. I don't have a front sight on it and didn't know how high to make it so I used a hose clamp to hold on a piece of steel strip bent into an 'L' shape. I set up 2 bulls, one over the other at 50 yards. Took a 6 o'clock hold on the top one and the shot went between the legs of the target board to plow a big furrow in the berm and send sand flying out in a fan spray.
Out came the side cutters to make a front sight adjustment. The next shot was 1/4 way up the bottom bull, so another snip was made. The 3rd round was in the 8 ring of the top bull, ah ha! The next shot for group was at 4 in the 7 ring, uh oh! Well the 5 rounds for group went about 10". At least I think I have the front sight height about right as they were all in the bottom half of the target. I was concerned what effect that .018" off axis bore was going to have, and I suspect it might be worse at longer range.
The balance of the ammo was shot offhand at various rocks on teh 50 & 100 yard berms and the 200 meter plates. Deputy Al was at the next bench and he pointed to a pile of empty 22RF brass. He said they had all be loaded but had gone off in sympathetic detonation:rolleyes: He thinks he's such a card. The little carbine was pretty 'boomy' under the covered line, especially since they'd completed the sound abatemet measures.
I did have several guys wander down to see what all the blast and bellowing was about. Or maybe it was the burning cream of wheat?
Probable accuracy improvements will be a larger Minie' and I have made a swage die to make a .596" slug vs the .582" one I was using. Also, my brass is about .100" too long. The fired cases all have mouths curved in like they'd been crimped, and they hadn't. Suppsedly they're supposed to be about 1.93". Some of them had been a bit hard to chamber, as it all has to be done with your thumb (chalk one up for the Trapdoor).
Another is lube and all I had was that in the base of the Minie'. Most guys are using lube grooved Minie's AND a grease cookie. So I need to make another head for my lube press to form .600" diameter lube snakes to slice into cookies. At home that afternoon it took 6-8 solvent soaked patches to come clean. I did get some small flakes of lead and some 'sparklies' in the first few patches, but then nothing.
All in all it was a real gas to shoot and I could feel my shoulder the rest of the afternoon. Cleaning up the brass I'm glad to say wasn't too much trouble.
.................Buckshot
Someone never gets the word so Larry showed up with his M44 Mossberg military trainer wth iron sights. I offered the use of my rifle but he said nah, he'd campaign the old Mossberg. Deputy Al used his new (to him) M581 Remington, I shot a M582 Remington and Glen used a M75 Winchester.
Glen is a funny one. He likes to win. Well I mean we ALL like to win, but Glen REALLY likes to win :-D. He'd called me up the week before and said he'd been trying to put scope blocks on a M513T he has and twisted off a screw in the barrel. I was surprised he was trying to get that particular rifle set up. Not that it isn't a nice one but he has a Stevens 44 1/2, Remington M37 Rangemaster (which I lust after), M52 Winchester, and the M75 Winchester in 22RF. All are set up to take the Lyman Targetspots or Unertl's of which he has 5-6.
So anyway I got that all taken care of and he shows up with the M75 wearing a 22X Unertl? We had fun shooting the match. Deputy Al shot Federal Bulk 550 rnds/brick for a 100/something-X (sorry, I forgot). Larry shot a 99-2X and used Winchester Dynapoints. I shot a 100-4X with Dyna-Points and Glen shot a 100-7X with CCI Green Tag. It wouldn't have surprised me if he'd gone and spent $10 on some Eley 10-X to win a $4 pot [smilie=l:
We lost one of our Burrito Shooters as Shooter451 had to go back to work full time. He's agitating to get Tuesdays off, but he said he's not making much headway.
I had finally been successfull in getting all my Snider brass loaded up and got to shoot them all up Tuesday. I think it was 38 rounds I had, in 3 batchs. One batch was some I'd shot out of my 3 band Snider a couple years ago. I just tossed the uncleaned brass in a box and they sat in the cabinet above the reloading bench since. I did finally clean them up before reloading but they were a scruffy lot. I lost 3 of those to neck splits.
I think I had 8 unfired and sized but primed with the really bad CBC #56 Berdan primers, and then 23 unfired 209 primer conversion cases. The old scruffy ones got loaded with 80.0grs of 1fG Goex, then a 50-50 mix of BP and Cream of Wheat (COW), which was then compress about 1/2". A cardwad, lubed felt wad, another cardwad and then the swaged Lee target Minie'. All the loads used this Minie' and the lube was all in thebase cavity as they're a smooth Pritchit style slug.
The other 2 groups of brass got 85.0grs of 2Fg Elephant with the 50-50 Cow-BP and cardwad & lubed felt wad treatment. They looked neat and I took a picture of'em but haven't up loaded it yet.
Boy, that littel Snider carbine can bellow and roar! [smilie=w:. I don't have a front sight on it and didn't know how high to make it so I used a hose clamp to hold on a piece of steel strip bent into an 'L' shape. I set up 2 bulls, one over the other at 50 yards. Took a 6 o'clock hold on the top one and the shot went between the legs of the target board to plow a big furrow in the berm and send sand flying out in a fan spray.
Out came the side cutters to make a front sight adjustment. The next shot was 1/4 way up the bottom bull, so another snip was made. The 3rd round was in the 8 ring of the top bull, ah ha! The next shot for group was at 4 in the 7 ring, uh oh! Well the 5 rounds for group went about 10". At least I think I have the front sight height about right as they were all in the bottom half of the target. I was concerned what effect that .018" off axis bore was going to have, and I suspect it might be worse at longer range.
The balance of the ammo was shot offhand at various rocks on teh 50 & 100 yard berms and the 200 meter plates. Deputy Al was at the next bench and he pointed to a pile of empty 22RF brass. He said they had all be loaded but had gone off in sympathetic detonation:rolleyes: He thinks he's such a card. The little carbine was pretty 'boomy' under the covered line, especially since they'd completed the sound abatemet measures.
I did have several guys wander down to see what all the blast and bellowing was about. Or maybe it was the burning cream of wheat?
Probable accuracy improvements will be a larger Minie' and I have made a swage die to make a .596" slug vs the .582" one I was using. Also, my brass is about .100" too long. The fired cases all have mouths curved in like they'd been crimped, and they hadn't. Suppsedly they're supposed to be about 1.93". Some of them had been a bit hard to chamber, as it all has to be done with your thumb (chalk one up for the Trapdoor).
Another is lube and all I had was that in the base of the Minie'. Most guys are using lube grooved Minie's AND a grease cookie. So I need to make another head for my lube press to form .600" diameter lube snakes to slice into cookies. At home that afternoon it took 6-8 solvent soaked patches to come clean. I did get some small flakes of lead and some 'sparklies' in the first few patches, but then nothing.
All in all it was a real gas to shoot and I could feel my shoulder the rest of the afternoon. Cleaning up the brass I'm glad to say wasn't too much trouble.
.................Buckshot