45 Caliber Tri-Weight Wadcutter Group Buy

[SciFiJim]

Tri-Weight 45cal Wadcutter Group Buy is Now Open.

This Group Buy will close November 16th.


This Group Buy is for a Tri-Weight .45 Wadcutter. It was designed by Glenn Larson and used with his permission. It is available in 120gr, 170gr and 250gr. This will have no hollow point or gas check option. It is for .45 caliber pistols and rifles.


http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=170&pictureid=1271


http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=170&pictureid=1386

These molds will be produced by Night Owl Enterprises (NOE).
Moulds will be machined from 2024 Aluminum
Used for high strength structural and aircraft applications.
Tensile strength range 30,000 to 63,000 psi
Sprue plate (blued), alignment pins, and hardware will be
carbon steel.

The cost will be as follows:

Single cavity mould $68.00 Ea.
Double cavity mould $72.00 Ea.
Three cavity mould $79.00 Ea.
Four cavity mould $85.00 Ea.
Five cavity mould $92.00 Ea.
Hollow pointing one cavity and furnishing a double ended pin would be $35.00 extra.
If you want to fashion different HP profiles, an extra blank pin would be $1.50


Shipping and handling will be $10 per order and shipped priority mail. If you live outside the United States contact me, and I will work with you.

Lead time is 4-5 weeks after Group Buy closes. Tooling will be ordered once we get to 15 paid orders so don’t delay.

Instructions for using the Group Buy order system page are HERE (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=56550).

Use the Group Buy order system HERE (http://www.groupbuys.dnsalias.com/login.asp) to place your order. Use the link provided or use the link at the bottom of the page. Print two copies of the order sheet and mail both to me with your payment. Once we are ready to go, I will place the order with NOE. The molds will be shipped to me and I will distribute them. I will accept bank check, money order or PayPal + $3.50. If using PayPal contact me first.

Write on you order sheet how many of each weight cavity that you want (i.e. 2@120 + 2@250).

The mold is machined to use LEE Commercial 6-Cavity handles (not included).
A Lyman, RCBS type top punch is furnished with each mould as well as a sample of Bull Plate sprue plate lube.

Visitors from other forums are welcome to participate in this group buy.
Email me at scifijim - at - gmail.com
Do the normal voodoo with the address to make it work, I don't want spambots to skim for my address.

Please leave a post here or PM me when you order and I will add you to the list.

I will post a running list of confirmed orders with username and options and a list of zip codes that payments have been received from in the next post.
Thanks
Jim

[SciFiJim]

Orders
1. Dframe - 3 cavity (2@120 + 1@170)
2. EDK - 5 cavity (5@250)
3. jeffk - 5 cavity (5@250)
4. 750k2 4 cavity (1@120 + 2@170+1@250)
5. Idaho Sharpshooter - 5 cavity (2@170 + 3@250)
6. hicard - 5 cavity (2@120 + 2@170 + 1@250)
7. Bear4570 - 4 cavity (2@170 + 2@250)
8. GLL - 4-cavity (2@120 + 2@170)
9. wallenba - 4 cavity (2@120 + 2@170)
10. jphillips - 3 cavity (1@120 + 1@170 + 1@250)
11. 15bobcat - 5 cavity w/HP (2@120 + 2@170 +1@250)
12. crf250x - 4 cavity (4@170)
13. Mr. S - 3 cavity (3@250)
14. GLL - single cavity (1@170)
15. Mohillbilly - 5 cavity (1@125 + 1@170 + 3@250) w/HP + 1 blank pin
16. SciFiJim - 4 cavity (2@170 + 2@ 250)
17. Rickk - 2 cavity (2@250)
18. oldfartz - 5 cavity (5@120)
19. oldfartz - 5 cavity (5@170)
20. barnowl - 3 cavity (3@170)
21. JBL - 5 cavity (5@170)




Zip Codes that payments are received from
62629
63012
85730
54935
83651
96055
54235
91106 x2
48135
75225
12586
96817
15601
63010
99588
93553
62263

[Dframe]

My check is enroute.
Thank you Jim

[bearcove]

Can we get this with .459-.460 diameter. Swede said he could do it , but is that included in this GB.

[SciFiJim]

I spoke with him yesterday. It will have to be in another group buy with a different designer. It would be departing too much from the original design that we have permission to use. Someone mentioned a very lite (like 100gr) wadcutter. That would be possible with a different design. Put up a feeler thread in the Group Buy Discussion forum and see if you can get 15 people that would be interested. I can run it for you or walk you through running it so that you can be a honcho as well (its actually a lot of fun if you like tracking detail like I do).

[dominicfortune00]

Won't work for me.

Count me out.

[750k2]

As long as we go .454 I'm in for a 4 holer - 2@120 & 2@170
My payment will wait til we get close to close due to ball and chain
But you can count on me - I'm not JD Henry!!!!!!:)

Gota go pick up my Bisley now:drinks:

[EDK]

I just did the group buy thing for a 5 cavity, 250 grain in all of them.

This ought to add a little horsepower to a 45 ACP....especially in a S&W 625.


:Fire::cbpour::redneck:

[Dframe]

Can't wait to try this one out in my old model 25 and my much newer 625. Hell I have a Single Action Colt that should be fun with it too.

[SciFiJim]

750k2 - I posted your order. I will wait on your payment. On the "Ball & Chain", she keeps you firmly rooted. Rise up each morning and call her "Blessed"! That will also do wonders for a marriage.

[750k2]

Your gonna have to give me something better - I used all that kinda stuff up years
ago.:kidding:

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

Put me in for a 5-cavity, two 170, three 250

Rich

[hicard]

I'll go with a 5 cavity, two 120,two 170 and one 250 grain.
Payment sent. (Note to self)

[jeffk]

My check is is enroute for a 5 @ 250

[SciFiJim]

Idaho Sharpshooter and hicard, Please use the Group Buy Order system page HERE (http://www.groupbuys.dnsalias.com/login.asp). It will generate an invoice for you to mail with your payment and will give me your shipping information. If it doesn't work for you, we will certainly take your order, but it makes tracking the orders much easier.
Thanks
Jim

[Bear4570]

Hi Jim, Just put in an order for a 4 cavity 2 @ 170 & 2@ 250.

USPS Money Order is on its way. Thanks

[SciFiJim]

Bear, I added you to the list.
Thanks
Jim

[GLL]

Jim:

I will take a 4-cavity (2@120 +2@170).

Jerry

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[SciFiJim]

Jerry,
I added you to the list.
Thanks
Jim

[JBL]

I just signed up for the 75gr buy. How long will this buy be open? I may wait and see how the 75gr works before commiting to this one.
JBL

[wallenba]

I'm in for a four cavity. Never done a group buy before and unfamiliar with the process. PM me please.
(2@120-- 2@170 gr.)

[SciFiJim]

JBL - This one is open until November 16th.

wallenba - PM inbound.

[wallenba]

Jim, check is in the mail.

[SciFiJim]

I'll let you know when it arrives.

[EDK]

Any chance of this being offered in your RG-2 or RG-4 hollow points? Little brother asked me, but is too shy to ask you himself...LOL.

I'd be tempted to go for a RG-4 on this one myself nyself, but this mould plus the RD 432 265 and the pending 357 200 semi wadcutter are going to have my allowance in hock forever. I'll be too broke for anything but cigars and reloading components!

:Fire::cbpour::redneck:

[SciFiJim]

EDK - SwedeNelson and I talked about offering this in a hollow point, but the fact that wadcutters are mostly used for target shooting it seemed pointless. :groner:
If you wanted one hollow pointed, it would probably have to the the 250gr. If you want to design a hollow point profile I am sure it can be done. Let me know.

[ddeaton]

How bout a hollow base? Like the old 38 wadcutters. Most them were swaged though, were they not? Sorry, just thinking outloud. Gets me in trouble.

[SciFiJim]

This would give you a great slug to start with if you wanted to swag some hollow base wad cutters.

[ChuckS1]

How do you think this would shoot in a .45 Colt? Either the 250 or 170 grain?

[SciFiJim]

Since it is sized to drop at .454 from WWs it should do very well in a .45Colt. It would be just the thing for CASS.

[SciFiJim]

Just a thought (I'm likely to get myself in trouble with this one). EDK proposed hollow pointing the boolit and ddeaton proposed a hollow base boolit. How about ordering a hollow point mold and loading the boolit backwards for a hollow base. If anyone is interested I am sure we can come up with hollow point design. It would probably have to be limited to the 250gr cavities.

[ddeaton]

I am listening

[Mohillbilly]

Now that is an idea! I'd like a 5 cav. 1 125gr., 1 170gr., 3 250s with one of them a hp pin and, or hb pin.

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

I'd think the 250gr in HP from pure lead would be very comforting at 750fps from a Taurus titanium 5-shot 45LC snubby.

So, let me put an order in for a 5-cavity. Two cavities in 170, three in 250; with one of them (or 2) HPs.

Rich

[SciFiJim]

Guys, my apologies for letting this one slide for the last few days. I will get a HP design posted soon as well as an HP option available for this GB on the GB order page.

[SciFiJim]

HP and extra pin options are now available on the group buy order page.

[SciFiJim]

Hollow point image is now posted in post #1 of this thread. Hollow pointing is only available in the 250gr cavity.

[Mohillbilly]

I like it. I would like an xtra blank pin as well.

[750k2]

Well I printed my invoice's out but couldn't see anywhere to put the weights.
Was wondering if I could change to 1@120, 2@170 and 1@250 in my 4 cav.
Do I need to write that on there someplace or do you just keep track?
Let me know if I messed this up or what not.
I'll funds on the way directly.
[smilie=s:

[SciFiJim]

Write in on the invoice. When I receive it I will compare it to what I already have and make any corrections in my records.

[Piedmont]

Perhaps it is too late to make any more changes on this one, but I wish there was a crimp groove. What I most wish is that you had made the next to the bottom band a heavier one so we could get a bullet around 220-230 grains. This would be perfect for lessening recoil in .45 Colt, yet also using up some of that case volume for more consistent target loads. The 170 grain strikes me as too light for that purpose.

To each his own, I guess, but I would sure be in on this one at around 220 grains. It would be good in the auto rim, too, and would hit near the sights in the fixed sighted 1917s.

[SciFiJim]

There are about 3 weeks left for this group buy to run. This boolit looks to be a winner. I am bumping it to draw more interest in it.

[Mr. S]

This will be my first group buy! I would like a three cavity 3 @ 250 grain. I think this will be great with my .45 AR and my .45 Colt.

My check or MO will go out this week.

Thanks!

Rick

[SciFiJim]

Mr. S - I added you to the list.
Thanks
Jim

[GLL]

Jim:

As per our PM discussion I will take another mould ! :)

One (1) single cavity 170 grain.

I will confirm everything on the invoice.

Thank you passing along my request to Al !

Best Regards,

Jerry

[SciFiJim]

There are two weeks left on this group buy. If you haven't sent your payment, please be thinking about doing so soon.
Thanks
Jim

[oldfartz]

I would like 1ea. 5 cav. all 120 gr. and 1ea. 5 cav. all 170 gr. Thankx

[SciFiJim]

oldfartz - I added you to the list. PM sent.

[SciFiJim]

This group buy will be closing on Monday. If you have been kicking the tires on this one, it's time to order. If you haven't sent your payment in yet, please do so this week.
Thanks
Jim

[JBL]

I'll take a 5c 170gr mold

[SciFiJim]

JBL - I added you to the list.
Thanks
Jim

[SciFiJim]

This group buy closes tomorrow. I am giving a LAST CALL on this one. Get in while you can.
Thanks Guys,
Jim

[SciFiJim]

This group buy is now closed! There are several payments still outstanding. I will update the thread when the order goes in.
Thanks everyone.
Jim

[SciFiJim]

The order has been sent to NOE. We should have it in hand for some mid-winter casting.:cbpour:

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

Are they done yet and shipped? Some of us feel that delayed gratification is waiting until after dinner for dessert.
I have a 45LC Anaconda with a 4" barrel that is just dying to get some of these run thru it.

Rich

[SciFiJim]

Check post #24 HERE (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=68694&page=2). The new schedule is now in early April.

[Rickk]

Well, we get to exercise our patience! Happy New Year everyone.
RickK

[hicard]

I don't see this one on any of the projected scheduled mould dates. What happened to this one?

[SciFiJim]

SwedeNelson has it listed differently. It is scheduled for the first week of April.


February
(31) K31 311-180Gr (Shipped)
(28) 358009 RN 280Gr. (Shipped)
(9) 45BD 210Gr.
(14) 314 SP 129Gr.

March
(19) 326407 185Gr.
(9) 326407 140Gr.
(16) 453RN 230Gr.
(11) 311440 148Gr.

April
(21) 454 250Gr. WC
(31) 432-265Gr. RF (RD)
(5) 514 640Gr. LFN
(12) 44Cal. 300Gr FN

May
(16) 7mm Hunter
(17) 41Cal. Keith
(24) 429421 245Gr. Keith
(5) 500294 GC 450Gr.

June
(5) Re-run of NOE 358429 168Gr. Keith
(31) 313640 118Gr. FN
(20) 432 300Gr. RF (RD)
(33) 460 350Gr. RF (RD)

July
(29) 460 425Gr. RF (RD)
(6) Re-run of NOE .359-190 RF (RD)
(16) 460 500Gr. RF
(15) 41 230Gr. LFN

August
(15) 360 200Gr SWC
(16) 225 RN 60Gr.
(6) Re-run of NOE 311-165gr RF (RD)
(??) 9.3mm

[750k2]

Gettin close:coffeecom