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Just Duke
09-02-2009, 01:56 AM
I picked up this Powermatic 3 HP Table Saw #66 1990 vintage for $500.00 and brought it home and I am now refurbishing it. It came with 2 guards and was missing the bolt assembly that holds the guard on. The guards were new and never installed but beat up a little. Also someone cut the 5/8 rod that holds the guard off (pictured) so I guess I'll need to order a new one also. I took the deck apart as it was shot and broke. The legs were also torn off the deck and they were missing also. Shame. :(
She's 220 Volts 1 phase and per my neighbor says he will hook me up for $40.00 if I put the wire in. Not sure what amp rating of wire I should use.
I did fire her up at the shop I picked it up at. She has seen light duty as far as the shop goes as they cut plastics for trophies.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/LEVER%20ACTION%20SHOOTERS%20SOCIETY/018-1.jpg


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Here is the rod the guard would have hooked up to had someone not cut it down.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/LEVER%20ACTION%20SHOOTERS%20SOCIETY/020-2.jpg


Damaged Dust Chute
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/LEVER%20ACTION%20SHOOTERS%20SOCIETY/019-1.jpg


Repaired and installed dust chute,

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/LEVER%20ACTION%20SHOOTERS%20SOCIETY/001-14.jpg


Broken Extension Table. Narry a screw or glue could be found so it must have been built late Friday night.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/LEVER%20ACTION%20SHOOTERS%20SOCIETY/003-10.jpg


New Extension Table close to completion double re-enforced table leg ends and an additional 12 inches longer. Our laminate vendor was closed early so we will look Monday for Black or the PM Sienna/Gold Post Forming for the top and sides. Total proposed cost of $70.00 with lots of fall off for additional projects like an outfeed table. ; )
A trip to Sherwinn Williams, a 3 hour wait, (we'll head to the casino buffet ; ) should net us a perfect color match to repaint this machine post masking her decal off with blue painters tape. The BM fence parts have been removed and are receiving the same treatment.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/LEVER%20ACTION%20SHOOTERS%20SOCIETY/002-11.jpg

Just Duke
09-02-2009, 01:57 AM
The new table in black.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/TOOLS/002-1.jpg


http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/TOOLS/001-1.jpg

Just Duke
09-02-2009, 01:57 AM
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Sanded and waiting for primer.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/TOOLS/004-3.jpg

Just Duke
09-02-2009, 01:58 AM
Primer is done! ;D


http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/TOOLS/014.jpg

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Just Duke
09-02-2009, 01:58 AM
Factory paint machine color sample

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/TOOLS/Powermatic180Planer.jpg

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So after 3 hours of wet sanding primer, she got her gold paint.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/TOOLS/PM1.jpg


http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/TOOLS/PM2.jpg

Just Duke
09-02-2009, 01:59 AM
UHMW Sheets and Strips for Biesmeyer Fence.

1124
1/2" X 4" X 48 " Sheet
$16.99

http://www.ptreeusa.com/tablesaw_products.htm

Just Duke
09-02-2009, 01:59 AM
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Just Duke
09-02-2009, 02:00 AM
Looks like she is going to need new main bearings. $27.00 each and two is needed.

Got the whole arbor kit including bearings for $92.00 shipped from Powermatic.

Just Duke
09-02-2009, 02:01 AM
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Just Duke
09-02-2009, 02:04 AM
Newly remodeled.


http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/EBRSOPMODS/TOOLS/SHOP1.jpg


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Bigjohn
09-02-2009, 03:02 AM
I'm having some trouble getting all of the photo's to download; could be due to me being on dailup.

IMHO, every man needs a basketcase to work on in the shed. It keeps us out of SWMBO's hair. :-)

Just Duke
09-02-2009, 07:51 AM
It keeps us out of SWMBO's hair. :-)

She must be obeyed? Now that's funny. :bigsmyl2:

Wayne Smith
09-06-2009, 08:23 PM
She Who Must Be Obeyed - H. Ryder Haggard.

Is that a tennon cutting jig I saw on the table? You have some very nice toys. And do very good work, too.

Just Duke
09-06-2009, 08:29 PM
She Who Must Be Obeyed - H. Ryder Haggard.

Is that a tennon cutting jig I saw on the table? You have some very nice toys. And do very good work, too.

Yes sir. A vintage Powermatic tennoning jig.
And thank you sir.

runfiverun
09-06-2009, 09:31 PM
after all that i'd be scared to scratch it..

Cherokee
09-07-2009, 10:06 AM
Nice restore Duke.

crabo
09-07-2009, 10:34 AM
Good job! Those of us who are tool ***** appreciate what you have done.

cowboy
09-07-2009, 10:40 AM
Shoo- I thought I was hot stuff goin' to Harbor Freight a couple of times a year!

leftiye
09-07-2009, 01:15 PM
Looked good to me as it wuz!

Russel Nash
09-07-2009, 03:59 PM
Yeah, ditto what he said.

Duke...you're kinda anal...aren't you?

P.S. I thought to be vintage Powermatic it had to have that green-ish paint scheme. :kidding:

Russel Nash
09-07-2009, 04:06 PM
Me? Personally? I would have pitched the blade guard in the trash or sold it on eBay. I have had much better success with throat plates made from 3/8" to 1/2" thick plywood or MDF. I cut the slot for the tablesaw blade a bit longer on the back or out feed side of the throat plate and then glue in a wooden strip a little narrower than the kerf. That acts like a splitter and keeps the back edge of the workpiece from straying too far way from the fence.

Once the emerging or back end of the blade can push the workpiece up off the table...WHAM! the piece kicks back at you.

Dan Cash
09-07-2009, 04:17 PM
Super looking outfit but ditch the guards before you cut your hands off trying to work around them.

Just Duke
09-11-2009, 12:45 PM
Yeah, ditto what he said.

Duke...you're kinda anal...aren't you?

P.S. I thought to be vintage Powermatic it had to have that green-ish paint scheme. :kidding:

I've been retired for 10 years and have nothing but time to burn. It's a 1991. Some younsters might think that's not vintage. lol
Anal might be why I was able to retire 10 years ago. [smilie=l:
Please exstrapilate anal please. :holysheep Here are a few others that take pride in their work and the appearance of their machines/property.
http://www.owwm.org/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=65c3513fc49ca891a2e68aa87df1babd

Us anal guys have to stick together Russell! Right? ;)

Just Duke
09-11-2009, 12:53 PM
ditch the guards before you cut your hands off trying to work around them.

Don't think so.

Red River Rick
09-11-2009, 01:03 PM
Nice work there Duke. I'd be scared to use that saw now, might scratch the beautiful paint job.

I have an vintage 1930 McCormick-Deering, 15-30 tractor on steel wheels that I want to restore (my grandfathers first tractor). If I send it to you, do you think you could paint it for me?

RRR

dsmjon
09-11-2009, 01:57 PM
Now there is work to be proud of! Looks mighty, mighty fine!

mold maker
09-11-2009, 01:59 PM
I spent most of 37 years with the big brother of it. Ours was a 12/14" Rockwell Delta, of exactly the same basic design. I ordered it with a 10 hp motor.
In 1976 the building burned around it. For less than $600. it was back in service, and in 2007 it was sold for $2800.
There is nothing like a tool that is capable of lots more than you can ask of it.

Just Duke
09-11-2009, 02:03 PM
Now there is work to be proud of! Looks mighty, mighty fine!

Thank you sir.

Just Duke
09-11-2009, 02:06 PM
I spent most of 37 years with the big brother of it. Ours was a 12/14" Rockwell Delta, of exactly the same basic design. I ordered it with a 10 hp motor.
In 1976 the building burned around it. For less than $600. it was back in service, and in 2007 it was sold for $2800.
There is nothing like a tool that is capable of lots more than you can ask of it.

That's a bad boy there. I had no idea they made a 10 hp.
I'm looking for a 14 inch Powermatic 3 phase right now. I think it's a 7 horse. This one will be on a trailer along with a 24 in Planer and a military generator.
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Dale53
09-11-2009, 09:11 PM
Duke;
That's an absolutely beautiful restore!! I'm thoroughly impressed, SIR!

Dale53

Just Duke
09-11-2009, 11:46 PM
Nice work there Duke. I'd be scared to use that saw now, might scratch the beautiful paint job.

I have an vintage 1930 McCormick-Deering, 15-30 tractor on steel wheels that I want to restore (my grandfathers first tractor). If I send it to you, do you think you could paint it for me?

RRR

Sure could! I'll trade you for a Paper Patch Mould.

Buckshot
09-12-2009, 02:59 AM
..............I think it's called a labor of love. Nice work and you now have a super performing table saw that looks brand new!

http://www.fototime.com/D6F506031937D20/standard.jpg

My Logan was actually made by Powermatic. Houdaille Industries bought Logan in the early '70's I believe it was. They never bothered to re-register the name so Scott Logan was able to get it back. My lathe was made in 1981.

That Powermatic gold may look good on a table saw or something, but it just flat does NOT belong on a lathe :-) At one time I was going to repaint it machine gray, but just thinking about the down time and all the work simply took the wind out of my sails. I DID paint the tailstock, crosslide and the compound!

.................Buckshot

Lloyd Smale
09-12-2009, 04:41 AM
12/2 wire and a dedicated 20 amp breaker should be fine.

Russel Nash
09-13-2009, 03:08 PM
Well, it's nice to see that the Old Woodworking Machine guys have their own forum. IIRC, it used to be just a yahoo group. Dedicated forum software is so much better.

I bought my circa 1958 Delta Unisaw at an auction for 50 bucks. It originally came with a 3 phase motor, which I left out for the garbage man to collect. This was before I learned of OWWM and could have had a place to sell it.

:groner:

I replaced it with a 3+ horsepower Baldour single phase.

My "shop" is out in a detached one car garage. I have a problem with condensation and the cast iron table tops rusting.

@ Duke.... do you have any recommendations for keeping the rust at bay, short of spraying every bare metal surface down with a clear lacquer???

:veryconfu

I have tried Boeshield and the other product that you buff up. Let me see if I can find it.

Ahh...yeah, Top Saver in the gold-ish colored can or pump spray bottle.

Nice work Duke!!

Just Duke
09-13-2009, 06:58 PM
My "shop" is out in a detached one car garage. I have a problem with condensation and the cast iron table tops rusting.


Ahh...yeah, Top Saver in the gold-ish colored can or pump spray bottle.

Nice work Duke!!


Thanks for the kind words Russell.
The 1958 is a good vintage. I like the older ones too with their Cast Iron Art Deco Bases.
Oh and uh Russell? If you have any just laying around of couse, could you send me some rust along with maybe a mud sample?
It has only rained 3 times this year.

Just Duke
09-13-2009, 06:59 PM
Well, it's nice to see that the Old Woodworking Machine guys have their own forum. IIRC, it used to be just a yahoo group. Dedicated forum software is so much better.

I bought my circa 1958 Delta Unisaw at an auction for 50 bucks. It originally came with a 3 phase motor, which I left out for the garbage man to collect. This was before I learned of OWWM and could have had a place to sell it.

:groner:

I replaced it with a 3+ horsepower Baldour single phase.

My "shop" is out in a detached one car garage. I have a problem with condensation and the cast iron table tops rusting.

@ Duke.... do you have any recommendations for keeping the rust at bay, short of spraying every bare metal surface down with a clear lacquer???

:veryconfu

I have tried Boeshield and the other product that you buff up. Let me see if I can find it.

Ahh...yeah, Top Saver in the gold-ish colored can or pump spray bottle.

Nice work Duke!!

Baldours Rock too. The saw has one. The lathe now has one too.

Just Duke
09-13-2009, 07:01 PM
..............I think it's called a labor of love. Nice work and you now have a super performing table saw that looks brand new!

http://www.fototime.com/D6F506031937D20/standard.jpg

My Logan was actually made by Powermatic. Houdaille Industries bought Logan in the early '70's I believe it was. They never bothered to re-register the name so Scott Logan was able to get it back. My lathe was made in 1981.

That Powermatic gold may look good on a table saw or something, but it just flat does NOT belong on a lathe :-) At one time I was going to repaint it machine gray, but just thinking about the down time and all the work simply took the wind out of my sails. I DID paint the tailstock, crosslide and the compound!

.................Buckshot

Oh be still my heart. A Powermatic Metal Lathe.
Thanks Buckshot.
Yes a labor of love.

Russel Nash
09-14-2009, 02:32 AM
Yeah, but I got to ask... why is the tailstock gray?

Russel Nash
09-14-2009, 02:37 AM
Oh, yeah, that's right, Duke, I forgot you were in Las Vegas. It is so humid here at night, that if I am running the A/C in my truck, water vapor will condense on the outside of my windshield and if I let it go too long I will have to turn on the windshield wipers.

Of course, it would help if I actually got under the hood and repaired the vacuum lines. The damper/vent system in the Ford is controlled by vacuum, so the A/C just blows on the windshield for now, since the vacuum lines rotted. Those are teh same vacuum lines that control the front part of the four wheel drive system too. So I am stuck in rear wheel drive for now too.

Ahhhh...jeeesh.... if it ain't one thing.... :groner:

Jim
09-14-2009, 08:14 AM
Excellent job, Duke! My compliments on a GREAT restoration!

Just Duke
10-22-2009, 02:10 AM
Russell, use Johnson Paste on the table top for ease of sliding you wood and rust prevention.

Russel Nash
10-22-2009, 04:47 AM
Thanks Duke.

I have tried Minwax paste furniture wax before.

Out of all the things I have tried, really...seriously.... none of them have held up long term.

Arrrgghhh....

But now that I have the JPW for making boolit lube, I might have to give it a try on the Delta Unisaw, the Parks planer/jointer, and the General 18 inch bandsaw.

10 ga
10-22-2009, 10:15 AM
Nice restore job. I was kinda hoping you were in such a hurry to do WORK that you leave it in gray primer like most of my stuff. KIWI neutral shoe polish on the top for slickness and rust prevention. NICE!! 10 ga

Just Duke
01-18-2010, 11:03 AM
For the new guys. ;)

John Taylor
01-18-2010, 11:48 AM
My "shop" is out in a detached one car garage. I have a problem with condensation and the cast iron table tops rusting.

@ Duke.... do you have any recommendations for keeping the rust at bay, short of spraying every bare metal surface down with a clear lacquer???

I have a machine shop that I run 6 days a week. With lots of bare metal laying around I use to have problems with rust. I put a small electric heater in the shop and set it at 50 degrees. It runs off and on in the colder months but there is no longer any rust in the shop. Living close to Seattle there is plenty of moisture in the air.

Bret4207
01-18-2010, 12:15 PM
John- hie thee to any boating supply place such as West Marine. They have a variety of spray on coatings that will prevent rust. The ones meant for salt water work really well in a non-salt water environment.

Just Duke
01-25-2010, 08:53 PM
My "shop" is out in a detached one car garage. I have a problem with condensation and the cast iron table tops rusting.

@ Duke.... do you have any recommendations for keeping the rust at bay, short of spraying every bare metal surface down with a clear lacquer???

I have a machine shop that I run 6 days a week. With lots of bare metal laying around I use to have problems with rust. I put a small electric heater in the shop and set it at 50 degrees. It runs off and on in the colder months but there is no longer any rust in the shop. Living close to Seattle there is plenty of moisture in the air.

Johnson Paste Wax.

Just Duke
02-25-2010, 03:52 AM
I spent most of 37 years with the big brother of it. Ours was a 12/14" Rockwell Delta, of exactly the same basic design. I ordered it with a 10 hp motor.
In 1976 the building burned around it. For less than $600. it was back in service, and in 2007 it was sold for $2800.
There is nothing like a tool that is capable of lots more than you can ask of it.

I can't find anywhere where they made them with a 10 HP motor. All I've seen are 5 and 7 HP.

44man
02-25-2010, 10:54 AM
That is indeed XXX rated---WOW a naked machine.
Wonderful job, thank you for sharing.

Just Duke
12-22-2010, 11:42 PM
That is indeed XXX rated---WOW a naked machine.
Wonderful job, thank you for sharing.

Thanks. :bigsmyl2:

Jim
12-23-2010, 10:23 AM
Duke,
That's a beautiful job, Man!!

Just Duke
03-31-2014, 12:39 AM
Here's the other machine you called me about today on the phone Joe.

mikeym1a
03-31-2014, 03:41 AM
Great work rebuilding that unit. It looks great.

Silver Hand
04-05-2014, 02:52 AM
Wow that is an old thread but it was fun watching the process, not many people would take the time to do a project like that to the standard you applied this day and age. I have been a carpenter for forty five years and have a nice little shop set up with stationary tools that helped pave my way through life 'Most have been restored'. You mentioned wiring for that saw and someone gave you a wire size and to include a separate breaker.
I have a shop basement full of odds and ends so I always wire to the full load of the same motor running on 110v, up to three HP. That way when I burn a motor out, I can go down stairs and look through my junk for a motor. If I have a 220v 30amp circuit with a #10 - 3 wire previously installed, I can hook up a 110v motor and still go to work the next day. I have had this system also work well when re arranging a stationary tools location.
Just saying – Retired now four years and spend more time thinking than doing.
Silver Hand

ABluehound
04-05-2014, 03:50 AM
Beautiful work... For what its worth, where I live in FL things can rust very fast here. I use RIG universal on my tools (and guns) to keep them from rusting. I even lost the roof over a milling machine during Hurricane Ivan and did not have a spot of rust on the working surface when I got back to it days later the same can not be said about other parts that I do not protect.

6bg6ga
04-05-2014, 07:52 AM
Only thing I can say is ' Tool Porn. Tool of the month.

CastingFool
04-05-2014, 08:11 AM
Nice job, Duke. Your saw looks a lot like my Delta Unisaw, 1968 vintage. Of course, mine is doesn't have shiny paint and table extension.

W.R.Buchanan
04-06-2014, 05:06 PM
Duke: I also like that you put some of your lesser used machines on wheels. I do this as well.

Randy