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burch
08-30-2009, 11:36 AM
Title says it all. I`m pulling my hair out with these handles. So how do you keep `em from slipping and turning and trying to come off etc. :mad:

SciFiJim
08-30-2009, 11:40 AM
If you are talking about the wooden handle coming off of the metal part, try JB Weld. You can also try drilling through the wood and metal and pinning the handles back on.

UweJ
08-30-2009, 11:43 AM
2 comp.glue will hold the handles onto the metall.Had to do the same on all my handles after a while.
Uwe

DLCTEX
08-30-2009, 11:45 AM
+1 on the JB weld.

burch
08-30-2009, 11:49 AM
Thank you gentlemen, JB it is :smile:

kyle623
08-30-2009, 03:17 PM
gorilla glue works good for me

rhbrink
08-30-2009, 03:26 PM
Get some high temp. silicone gasket maker at auto supply store guaranteed that works.

Dennis Eugene
08-30-2009, 04:19 PM
Shucks I just rammed some tooth picks into mine, seems to work fine, every couple thousands boolits I may need a new tooth pick tho. Dennis

runfiverun
08-30-2009, 10:59 PM
i did like dennis except i use brads cause i got some.

fatnhappy
08-31-2009, 12:49 AM
Shucks I just rammed some tooth picks into mine, seems to work fine, every couple thousands boolits I may need a new tooth pick tho. Dennis

Careful, Dennis is a logger. His idea of a tooth pick might be 30' long and 2' in diameter.

;)

I use liquid nails. ymmv

qajaq59
08-31-2009, 06:25 AM
I whittled down a match stick for mine. Worked fine.

Calamity Jake
08-31-2009, 09:04 AM
I drill thru the wood and steel with a 3/32 drill then install a 3/32 roll pin, no more loose handles, ever.

JMtoolman
08-31-2009, 12:28 PM
I have used the high temp. red silicone gasket squeezed into the handle, then let set overnight. They haven't become loose in twenty years. Problem solved!
Best regards, John the toolman.

putteral
08-31-2009, 12:59 PM
+1 on Gorilla Glue.

leftiye
08-31-2009, 03:54 PM
FWIW, I've used muffler putty. Hasn't let go yet. I used it to make a wooden handle for my remelt pot. The original handle was too short, and not insulated. Really helps with ten lbs. of alloy to pour.

The Virginian
09-09-2009, 05:38 PM
+3 on JB Weld it is the permenant solution. Mighty Putty would also work well too.

Hiaboo
09-09-2009, 06:02 PM
JB Weld, at least an generic version worked for me.

Jaybird62
09-09-2009, 06:16 PM
I made shims from a busted metal measuring tape and it held pretty well. I've used the scraps from the same 20-foot tape for shims for the past 30 years and still have a lifetime supply left. I was using some JB Weld on something else and was using my casting bench for a working surface and picked up one of my mold handles to move it out of the way. It slipped, so I pulled every lose handle I could find and JB Welded them on the spot. Works great, too.

HORNET
09-09-2009, 07:37 PM
JB Weld it is. Also new cross pins well staked and peened. File some small notches into the steel on the handles to give a better mechanical lock with the JB. Good Stuff, Maynard!

sundog
09-09-2009, 08:05 PM
Wonder product of the technical age. Silicon! Silicon filler. Got some at NAPA (or someplace) that is kinda orange in color and high temp. Squirt some in the hole, poke in down and put the tang back in. Great stuff. Silicon is supposed to be good for other stuff, too...

BrianB
09-10-2009, 04:31 PM
My Lee handles came loose while casting two days ago and I d*mn-near dropped my new NOE mold in a bucket of water...that would been the end of that mold, I'm sure.

jimkim
09-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Get some high temp. silicone gasket maker at auto supply store guaranteed that works.

That's exactly what I used. Blue Glue worked great.

Ian Robertson
09-10-2009, 09:06 PM
Looks like just about anything will work.

AZ-Stew
09-10-2009, 10:30 PM
JB Weld would be my first choice, followed by the orange, high-temp silicone sealer sold for engine rebuild gasket sealing. Both work great, as they are heat-resistant up to the temperatures the metal in your handles will reach during casting.

Regards,

Stew

geargnasher
09-10-2009, 10:42 PM
I drill thru the wood and steel with a 3/32 drill then install a 3/32 roll pin, no more loose handles, ever.

Overachiever. :kidding:

Gear

jimkim
09-11-2009, 05:02 AM
I went with the Permatex gasket maker for two reasons. It is resistant to heat, and because of it's nature(it's kinda like rubber), it will be resistant to shock/vibration.

Red Butler
09-11-2009, 08:24 AM
High-temp red silicon coated around the metal in front of the wood handle and over the metal ring clamped to the wood handle. No more loose handles since.

imashooter2
09-11-2009, 08:47 AM
Pretty much any silicon gasket or caulk does the job. No need to search for "high temperature" gasket material. Squirt some in the hole, tap the handles on, let dry, no further issues.

Wayne Smith
09-11-2009, 09:04 AM
Wow, guys. Have you noticed that the metal isn't square in cross section? Simply take them off, turn half a turn, and drive them back on. May not last forever, but is still holding almost a year later.

monadnock#5
09-11-2009, 09:21 AM
One additional benefit of using the silicone gasket maker is it seals cracked handles. The handles on my favorite Lyman 2-cav handles were not only slipping off, they also had some good sized cracks running half their length. I buttered up the metal and squirted a glob into the handle hole (this is the red high temp stuff). When I tapped the handles back on, I had ribbons of silicone squirt out of the cracks (there were a few cracks I didn't know I had until the silicone squirted out) completely sealing them.

Some might consider this wasteful, but not me. Once the seal is broken the clock starts ticking. If not used for months at a time, there's a very good chance that the next time you go to use it, the contents of the tube will have solidified. So, +1 for testing every pair of handles in the inventory by pulling on them as hard as you can, and fixing those that don't make the grade.

Newtire
09-11-2009, 10:11 AM
I drilled thru my Lee 2-cavity handles and put a pin but this weakens the handles and they broke off on one set.

I like the idea of the silicon sealer as that's some strong stuff. A friend of mine used it to bed in a rifle. He put saran wrap on the metal and bolted it in. this was on a new Remington .22 autoloader and it worked great. I am going to try it on a rifle or two just for fun.

azrednek
09-11-2009, 10:12 PM
Silicon is supposed to be good for other stuff, too...

YES IT IS!!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/dnisbet/bow-2.jpg

MT Gianni
09-11-2009, 11:18 PM
We have evolved and modernized. The answer to this question in the Shooters days was fireplace cement. What ever you use it must withstand the temperature change.

Dale53
09-12-2009, 12:42 AM
I used a name brand high temperature silicone on my mold handles and a year later it STILL hasn't set up. I vote for something else.

The best fix I have ever used is to drill the ferrules and handles and put in small bolts and nuts - a roll pin, as mentioned will do the same thing. Now, THAT is a permanent fix.

Dale53

burch
09-12-2009, 08:16 AM
YES IT IS!!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/dnisbet/bow-2.jpg



Yes, silicone has it`s many uses - ;)

imashooter2
09-12-2009, 08:26 AM
I used a name brand high temperature silicone on my mold handles and a year later it STILL hasn't set up. I vote for something else.

The best fix I have ever used is to drill the ferrules and handles and put in small bolts and nuts - a roll pin, as mentioned will do the same thing. Now, THAT is a permanent fix.

Dale53

You either chose a non hardening product or you have defective product. RTV silicon caulk or gasket hardens overnight.

Dale53
09-12-2009, 12:57 PM
imashooter2;
I suspect that you are correct. It's kind of like chewing gum. No real problem, I'll just drill and pin it. I'll try another kind of silicone for later. The nice thing about silicone, is you can be casting, have a handle come loose, use the silicone and keep right on casting.

With difficulty[smilie=1:, I am trying not to comment on that lovely picture. I really am....

Dale53

DLCTEX
09-12-2009, 08:05 PM
I glued a set of handles that were badly cracked and loose with polyurethane glue (Gorilla Glue) two years ago and they're still holding.Don't forget to dampen the wood as the moisture is a catalyst to help activate it.

fecmech
09-13-2009, 12:59 PM
I used a name brand high temperature silicone on my mold handles and a year later it STILL hasn't set up. I vote for something else.


Dale53

Dale--I think what you used was silicone dialectric (heat sink) compound that stays as a silicone grease and does not set up. If you use any of the 100% silicone caulks or rtv silicone for gaskets you will have no problems.

Dale53
09-13-2009, 01:55 PM
fecmech;
You are probably correct. I'll try to correct that the next time around. It sure is an easy method when it works.

Dale53

Newtire
09-13-2009, 04:32 PM
Yes, silicone has it`s many uses - ;)

You must be referring to the knockers on the arrows-er I mean knocks that is ya see...yuperee Bob!

DLCTEX
09-13-2009, 10:06 PM
Those bow strings could hurt!

Ricochet
09-13-2009, 10:26 PM
My Lee handles came loose while casting two days ago and I d*mn-near dropped my new NOE mold in a bucket of water...that would been the end of that mold, I'm sure.
I had that happen with a thoroughly warmed up 6-hole Lee mould last year. Dried it off, rewarmed it and went back to casting, after knocking the handles on tightly. Didn't hurt it a bit.