LeadHead 30-30 and SR4759

[bradh]

Have 15 year old son a little recoil sensitive. Loaded 100 rounds 30-30 with
leadhead 149 gr LFNGC bullets and 18.8 grs SR4759. I think about 1700 fps.
Out in dessert last weekend he really liked it, said NO recoil. He sure had no
problem bustin' clay peigons at 70 yards....he shot all 100 rounds up!

[versifier]

Lee soupcans and RE-7 are another great combination for a low recoil load for the .30-30. They can still be pushed to very respectable velocities, too. For small framed people, the light little Win94 with the metal butt plate can be downright abusive with heavy bullet/boolit hunting loads. I found the round more pleasant to shoot out of a 10" Contender, until I tried it in a bolt action, then I really began to enjoy it and many years later it's still one of my favorites.

[Dale53]

It can be heart warming to see a youngster having fun with a rifle. I grew up in the country and on my ninth Cristmas, my father got me a Savage .22/410. I had it in my hands every day until we moved to the city. I, of course, was thoroughly bitten by the bug and have been shooting ever since. A good father is hard to beat:drinks: , and I had a dandy. Actually, I had good PARENTS!

bradH;
Enjoy that youngster while you can. They are gone from home before you know it.

Dale53

[Four Fingers of Death]

What sort of bolt gun do you shoot it out of? I have always fancied a Remington 788 in 3030, yeah I know weird.

I probably should try and old smle action with a discarded (read free) target barrel. Another excuse to spend more money and waste (?) heaps of time.

[Jack Stanley]

Nothing wierd at all about using a 788 with the 30WCF cartridge . It is one of the finest lead-slingers I've seen yet . Now a Savage 219 in 32-20 might be getting out there ![smilie=1:

Jack

[versifier]

Nothing wierd at all about using a 788 with the 30WCF cartridge . It is one of the finest lead-slingers I've seen yet . [smilie=1:

Jack

There's nothing I need to add to it. You said it all.

[floodgate]

Mick, Poet, et al:

The 788? A GREAT rifle, ugly as all-get-out, but a great 30&30, once you peeled all the plastic ribs and junk off it. Trouble is, finding the magazines. I had about twice as much in three spare mags as in the rifle; hadda go to Canada to get the
last two. And the trigger - on mine at least - was AWFUL; it would have cost the price of another rifle to get a good after-market one. But if I hadda do it over again, I sure would....and this time, I'd do it RIGHT, and KEEP it!

floodgate

[StarMetal]

Doug,

What was that comparative model Winchester made to compete with the 788..something like a 670? My best friend has one, pretty neat little rifle and one thing for sure, the trigger is pretty decent.

Joe

[Frank46]

788's and the 30-30 ctg go together like they were made for each other. I've been looking for some time and have only found one and the owner wouldn't part with it for blood or money. Finally located a winchester marksman stock for my model 54 win action in 30-30. Been giving serious thought about sending it out to get rebarrelled in the same caliber but with 1.250" dia tube about 22" long. Maybe I can find a good smith who could weld up the cocking piece like a model 70 so I could use either the canjar singleset trigger or the kenyon trigger I have salted away. Been looking for a good used marksman stock for ten years 'bout time I did something with the 54 action.Frank

[floodgate]

Joe:

I don't know much about the Winchester 670, and I've passed on all my older Gun Digests. As I remember, it was intended as a low-end price competitor to the Remingtons of the time - the 788, the 600's. etc.

Frank:

One of my lasting regrets is that I didn't buy a fine, used Model 54 in .30-30 I saw in a gunshop back around 1970. But if I had, I'd probably have shot it a few times and then sold it. I'm smarter now - I HOPE!

Doug

[6pt-sika]

I've loaded three different 150 grain GC bullets ; Lee . RCBS and Saeco.

The two loads I tried on all were;


17.5 grains of SR4759

16 grains of XMP5744


I did the same thing for my exwife . At the time the only 150 mold I had was the Lee and I had bought her one of the Marlin 336Y 30-30 rifles. With the 150's recoil is none existant .

Now I don't have the wife , but I've still got the Y and the molds .

[6pt-sika]

I have a pair of old Marlin's that I want to kill deer with in the next season or two. One is a 36SC , I'll use the RCBS 150 and 16 grains XMP5744. The other is an 1893 Marlin that was made about 1906. I plan on using the Saeco 150 and 16 grains of XMP5744 in that one.

[Griff]

I use a Saeco 316 mold (150gr FPGC) in front of 29grs of RE-7. Last I checked it was 2400fps outta my 26" 94. I don't think the recoil is that punishing but... maybe cause this load duplicates my Federal factory ammo.

[6pt-sika]

There's nothing I need to add to it. You said it all.



We have a couple guys around here that collect 788's . About three years ago I expressed an intrest in getting a 788 in 30-30 to shoot and they laughed at me:roll:

They new I wanted it to shoot and they new I wouldn't most likely pay what a decent one cost. They were right , the only ones I've seen for sale lately were about $700. Not bad for a gun that originaly cost $100.

[44mag]

My best load is 22 grains of AA5744 behind a 190 gr pointed gas check Lyman bullet cast from #2 alloy and sized to .308. This is, of course, not for lever guns. It is used in a rollingblock action. It will keep less than 2" at 200 yards, if I do my part.

[rmb721]

I use 25 grains of IMR 3031 behind 311041 gas checked bullet. sized at .309. In a Marlin 36 with a 24 inch barrel, 1775 fps. It is the load I use for cowboy silo. I have shot 2 1/2 inch groups at 200 yards with this load, when I do my part.

[Dale53]

I think that I still have one of those 788 30/30's buried in my safe. I looked for one for years before I found one. Pretty decent one but I have shot it little. Other interests caught me after I got it.

I may have to dig it out and shoot it a bit.

Dale53

[6pt-sika]

I think that I still have one of those 788 30/30's buried in my safe. I looked for one for years before I found one. Pretty decent one but I have shot it little. Other interests caught me after I got it.

I may have to dig it out and shoot it a bit.

Dale53


I like the idea of using it as a primary deer rifle . Although I have a couple Model 7's that probably would not like that . But then again I do not shoot cast in them .

[C1PNR]

Lee soupcans and RE-7 are another great combination for a low recoil load for the .30-30. They can still be pushed to very respectable velocities, too. For small framed people, the light little Win94 with the metal butt plate can be downright abusive with heavy bullet/boolit hunting loads. I found the round more pleasant to shoot out of a 10" Contender, until I tried it in a bolt action, then I really began to enjoy it and many years later it's still one of my favorites.
Many years ago a friend of mine made a heck of a deal for 2 30-30s. One a '94 and the other a Marlin (time has erased the model number from my memory). He bought 2 boxes of 170 grain factory (RP or WW, I forget) and invited me along to help him "sight them in." We took along a couple other friends for a "good time on the desert."

We shot the '94 first and had a great time. I shot about 10 rounds and then we passed it around. Then it was time for the Marlin. I fired two rounds out of that thing and started passing it around. One other guy fired one and gave it back to me with a warning to the others "That HURT!" And it DID!

I have no idea what the problem was, but the steel butt plate on the Marlin gave no quarter! I got it kind of sighted in, but the last several shots were heavily influenced by the big flinch I had just acquired.:roll: