I wish to make my carnoba red softer

[canuck4570]

I have some 30 stick of carnoba red and would like to make it softer
what would be the best softening agent
would like it soft similar to 50/50 alox bee wax
thanks Canuck

[405]

The easiest way is to add veg oil... olive, canola whatever your taste. May take some trial and error to get what you want. Melt a small sample of known quantity (half pint or something?) Lars Carnauba Red... add a little known quantity of oil. Let cool.... test for softness. Do that until you get where you want to go. Then you'll have the ratio of each for any larger batch you may want to mix up. Even lanolin will soften lubes but lanolin is different than veg oil.

[Rockchucker]

Down here in Florida I don't even use the heater it's so soft. It's border line being to soft, and can't wait til some fall weather comes around so it'll stiffen up some.

[Beau Cassidy]

Down here in Florida I don't even use the heater it's so soft. It's border line being to soft, and can't wait til some fall weather comes around so it'll stiffen up some.


Add some ******...

[DGV]

I mix 2 carnuba reds to 1 BAC. It give just a little softer consistency. I do need to use a heat lamp on my RCBS sizer. I let it heat up about 5-10 Min.

[BABore]

I would think that mineral oil or vaseline would be most compatible with CR.

[Rockchucker]

:drinks:
Add some ******...

[canuck4570]

what happens if it stay's stiff, what then?

[canuck4570]

ok for the vegetable oil and vaseline how about if I use alox to make it softer

[peter nap]

what happens if it stay's stiff, what then?

If it lasts longer than 4 hours....see a Doctor.:roll:

[putteral]

what happens if it stay's stiff, what then?

Call the Doctor!!!:kidding:

[canuck4570]

I knew this would be a hard topic....

[mroliver77]

I put ****** on my tomato plants. I dont have to stake them anymore, they stand up on their own!! lol
To address the lube. Adding any old oil to a lube can result in it bleeding back out. Not good! I would talk to Lars and see what he recommends as he knows the make up of it.
Jay

[canuck4570]

that's logic
I should of tough of that
will send a e-mail
e-mail sent will give their response has soon has I receive it....

[357maximum]

A touch of vaseline is all you need to do as you seek. A 1/2 to full teaspoon per stick will get the desired results.

[outdoorfan]

I used olive oil, but now I make my own lube. Some say that olive oil will break down in a year or so, but maybe you won't need them to last that long.

[BABore]

It's always best to thin a lube with an ingredient that is a more basic or refined version of the lube's main ingredient. This way your less apt to change the lube's qualities much. If changing the lube's slickness, viscosity, or tackiness are desired, along with also making it softer, then other ingredients are used. In otherwords, what you thin lube with will make a difference in its quality.

[truckmsl]

maybe you should ask Lars?

[canuck4570]

maybe you should ask Lars?
I sent them a e-mail, waiting for a response
will share it as soon has it comes in....

[stocker]

I used one cap full of STP oil treatment to soften some Beartooth lube I bought. It would feed through my RCBS sizer without heat and in my opinion was a superior lube for rifles than the original lube.

[high standard 40]

+1 on the mineral oil. It's what I used to do the same thing earlier this year. Worked good for me.

[irniff]

Michel I make my lube I trie manny diff. products I beleave verry much in synthetic lube I adjust the hardeness by adding synt. gear oil (rear axle oil) it work ok for me I am open for any sugestion ;ps is ****** will bring back a curved barrel!! Au Revoir:-D

[Baron von Trollwhack]

Just make sure to not get any of bozo's lieagra near it. It won't be good for anything then.

BvT

[405]

If you're going to use only in smokeless loads then any mineral oil, petrol based oil, vaseline, etc. will work fine and you won't have to worry about the lube going rancid. For lubes that will be used for blackpowder (or both smokeless and blackpowder) then some petrol based lubes may cause some fouling problems in blackpowder loads. For the lubes with the au-naturale ingredients like veg oil then simply pour into small ingots, put in ziplocs and store in the fridge until needed. I've found that even very soft lubes work well and maybe better for smokeless than hard lubes... up thru at least 1500 fps anyway.

[Johnch]

Well I mix 3 sticks of Lar's Red with 1 of my home brew sticks of 50/50

The resulting lube will flow through my sizer at normal room temps ( 60 + degrees)

I shoot the lube at 2300 FPS out of the 223 with no problems ( opperator errors are another story )

John

[canuck4570]

In a message dated 8/10/2009 12:32:38 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, canuck4570@yahoo.ca writes:
I have some of your carnoba red
wish to make it softer, what would be the best softening agent..... I
tough of alox
would like your opinion
thank you Michel Mongrain
Hello, if you have some Alox you could add some and it might turn out similar to our BAC lube.
You could add an equal amount of our 50-50 lube to it and it would be BAC.
A small amount of mineral oil(or any oil) would soften it also. Just add a small amount at a time.

Hope this helps
Glenn.

[softpoint]

I heard about a lawyer once who took some ******. All it did was make him grow taller.......

[runfiverun]

i mix two sticks of 50-50 to one red and add lanolin as it cools to make tacky ,rubbery type lube. if i want it soft,soft then castor oil ,or glycerin ,or vaseline is added.

[dakotashooter2]

I have been using toilet rings (NEW). They are not beeswax anymore but have a similar melt point as the lube I'm mixing it with. I've got it pretty soft right now for use in handgun loads and it seem to work good but is messy. Gonna stiffen up the nex batch and see how that works.

[Marlin Junky]

Vaseline is the easiest but Jojoba oil is what I prefer and the latter is chemically a liquid wax.

MJ

[zxcvbob]

I would try castor oil -- the laxative stuff. It is an extreme pressure lubricant, and makes a pretty good case lube. (gonna try dissolving some in denatured alcohol and see how it works as a spray lube someday)
I have been using toilet rings (NEW). They are not beeswax anymore but have a similar melt point as the lube I'm mixing it withI've got a few of those down in the basement. Haven't tried melting one yet for bullet lube. Will they run in hot weather if I try using them straight? (I know it's probably not a good lube, but it's a good place to start) I don't want anything that will contaminate my powder or primers.