PDA

View Full Version : .44mag hunting boolit??



troy_mclure
08-04-2009, 06:08 PM
im looking for a good hunting boolit for my 7.5 ruger super blackhawk, 225gr-300gr would be best i think.

ill prolly also use it in my inline muzzle loader too.

would a hot .44mag load require a gas check?

thanks!

oh, ill be hunting deer/pigs mostly.

44man
08-04-2009, 06:48 PM
Get the Lee 310 gr mold, cast WW's and water drop them.
Load 21.5 gr of 296, Fed 150 primer and Felix lube or Lar's Carnauba Red.
Or buy Cast Performance 320 gr WLNCG boolits and use the same load.

randyrat
08-04-2009, 07:07 PM
PM me and i can send you a few water dropped Lee 310 gc bullets. They are as i like to say, WEOWULF boolits.

fredj338
08-04-2009, 07:13 PM
Get the Lee 310 gr mold, cast WW's and water drop them.
Load 21.5 gr of 296, Fed 150 primer and Felix lube or Lar's Carnauba Red.
Or buy Cast Performance 320 gr WLNCG boolits and use the same load.

A good choice for sure, I have the same mould. I chose the Lyman Dev. HP mold though. Cast hard, it won't expand much. Cast soft, it will expand quite a bit especially over 1000fps. Modify the pin to a cup point & even cast soft, expansion is controllable to 1200fps+.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/fredj338/44-272.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/fredj338/44-272-1K.jpg

runfiverun
08-04-2009, 09:34 PM
whichever you choose i'd get a good flat meplat.
waterdrop for the pigs and not for deer.
waterdropped ww's are dang hard and will penetrate straight through 12" of pine at 60yds, with 1600 fps velocity.
through a soft bodied deer straight ww's won't hardly upset unless you hit bone,or the velocity is up there enough to upset the nose somehow.
but a good flat nose will cause destruction to insides beyond its size.

beagle
08-04-2009, 10:04 PM
Don't think you'd beat the old Keith 429421. It's a classic, shoots good and is atried performer on game./beagle

Marlin Hunter
08-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Get the Lee 310 gr mold, ....


If you mean the #90858 mold (C430-310-RF), I have been waiting for over 3 months for that one to be available. It seems to be very popular.

http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/c430310r.gif

chaos
08-04-2009, 11:30 PM
RCBS 44-250-KT or RCBS 44-240 SWC out of wheel weights and water dropped work fine out of all of my SBH's and marlin 1894. Sized to .430 over full doses of win 296 with WLP primers.

Fine on deer or wild hogs. Expansion is not needed.

Just my 2 cents

vanilla_gorilla
08-05-2009, 12:28 AM
RCBS 44-250-KT

This one is my choice.

MakeMineA10mm
08-05-2009, 01:00 AM
None of the suggestions so far have been bad at all. I'll just through in another, since it is my preferrence:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=179&pictureid=1033

These are from a group buy mould, but it is a VERY popular design, and if you can't find an original Lyman mould, or a mould from one of the several group buys that have gone already for this design, you should watch for MiHec re-running it, as he has run it at least twice now.

It weighs around 285-290grs depending on alloy, has a Gas Check and a meplat and nose design that fits in most guns and feeds in most lever-actions, while still giving a large tissue-disrupting meplat.

Can't fault the Lee 310 or a good heavy Keith SWC either. Too bad RanchDog is gone, because his moulds were easy to recommend too. Good design, worked great.

Lloyd Smale
08-05-2009, 06:16 AM
It all depends on what your hunting. Up to elk sized game and a good 250 at about 1200 fps will do fine. Like was said something like the 429421 or the rcbs 240 swcgc are excellent bullets for that. If bigger game is a possiblity a good 300 grain lfngc is about ideal. It will work well on animals up to an easy 1000lbs and does a slightly better job of breaking heavy bone in a elk bear or boar but a good 250 will do the job. the devestator is a good bullet and ive shot animals as big as a 1000lbs with it but its slow to cast and doesnt give the penetration a swc or lfn does. Pick your shot and it does great and kills very quickly. In a heavy my favorites are the ballistic cast 300lfngc and the lyman 300 swcgc but theres lots of good lfns in the 280-300 grain range. For really big game or use in the 444 i like the ballistic cast 340lfngc. It has two crimp groves witch allow it to be seated deap enough for rugers or marlin lever guns and seated out for the redhawks.

oldhickory
08-05-2009, 06:53 AM
Don't think you'd beat the old Keith 429421. It's a classic, shoots good and is atried performer on game./beagle

No doubt beagle! That's my choice for any task using a .44!

Larry Gibson
08-05-2009, 11:46 AM
I'm partial to Lyman's 429244 cast soft, 50/50 WWs/lead works fine and they weigh 270 gr fully dressed. It is a GC'd bullet and can be driven to 1400 fps out of my 6.5 revolvers. After loading I HP the bullet with a 1/8" Forster HP tool to 3/4 the depth of the nose. Accuracy is excellent and terminal performance is much enhanced by the expansion. Penetration is all that could be desired from a revolver. I also use this same bullet cast of the same alloy sans the GC out of my TC Black Mountain Magnum .50 cal muzzle loader. With 777 I load them to right at 1900 fps with 2-3 moa for the first 3 shots out of a clean barrel at 100 yards.

Larry Gibson

44man
08-05-2009, 12:33 PM
All good boolit suggestions to be sure.
I have found the .44 revolver to have the ideal velocity for a good meplat and a hard boolit, no expansion of any kind needed. Lungs are destroyed and pour out.
My only problems with deer were with expanding boolits and bullets that opened too fast. I killed them OK but most never had complete penetration and blood trails were poor.
It amazed me that a 240 XTP would not exit the far side with a double lung hit during my first years of revolver hunting. I then worried about a quartering shot or a bone hit. I went to the hard cast LBT, the Lee 310 and some of my own molds and have never been sorry.
Everything responds to the .44 hard cast from deer to as large an animal you want to shoot.

500MAGdaddy
08-05-2009, 02:05 PM
I have used the 250gr Keith with 7.5 unique under it for years as a light gallery load in my 4" 29 and recently use the same load for my son to practice with a 1894 Marlin...it's like a BB gun in that lil carbine and I know that it will surely kill his first whitetail this October...I've fell several with it in my Smith.

Blammer
08-05-2009, 02:27 PM
Here is what I like!

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/2008%20Deer/DSCN7394.jpg

the green line is the bullet path, and yes complete penetration

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/2008%20Deer/bulletpath.jpg

and the boolit
250gr at about 1300 fps

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/DSCN6457.jpg

44man
08-05-2009, 03:18 PM
Wonderful, nice eating deer too. You just can't beat the .44.

Blammer
08-05-2009, 04:28 PM
And this is the boolit I'm gonna try this year.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/DSCN7432.jpg

Sturgell
08-05-2009, 07:09 PM
Get the Lee 310 gr mold, cast WW's and water drop them.
Load 21.5 gr of 296, Fed 150 primer and Felix lube or Lar's Carnauba Red.
Or buy Cast Performance 320 gr WLNCG boolits and use the same load.

I agree with this, the 310 is shaping up to be a fine taker of game for me. I did some testing with velocity today and made it up to 23.5 grains of H110 before I had enough, it was good for 1450 fps. I don't water drop and I used lube comprised of 2 parts paraffin to 1 part vaseline, luckily enough my simple lube doesn't lead.


If you mean the #90858 mold (C430-310-RF), I have been waiting for over 3 months for that one to be available. It seems to be very popular.

http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/c430310r.gif

I bought mine from Midway 2-3 weeks ago and it was in stock. Just checked and it is in stock now.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=949198


And this is the boolit I'm gonna try this year.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/DSCN7432.jpg

I think I am in love.

Shuz
08-05-2009, 08:24 PM
I've killed more deer with the 429421 than any other .44 slug. Never have recovered a boolit, but never lost a deer neither. Two years ago I used the 429640 Devastator and it worked well and expanded well, but I was finally able to recover a slug in the hide of the off side. Boolit weighed about 200 grains. I personally think any .44 boolit from about 230 to 240g up to the 300 plus grainers will kill just about anything if the shot is placed properly.

softpoint
08-05-2009, 09:09 PM
Another bullet I like, I started a recent thread on,is the 300 grain Lyman SWC gascheck. RCBS makes a similar bullet. The 310 Lee is another. The 310 Lee is one of the few molds that will work easily in my Freedom Arms .44. If there is more than just a TINY amount of full diameter bullet out of the case, they won't chamber in that pistol. Full diameter front driving bands give fits in that gun.:Fire:

500MAGdaddy
08-06-2009, 11:00 AM
That's a sledgehammer for sure man....what is that boolit?

archmaker
08-06-2009, 09:16 PM
What design do you call it Blammer?

Top hat?

I like it though.

runfiverun
08-06-2009, 10:51 PM
that mold of dj's is available from old west bullet molds.
lyman also made one very similar.

Ekalb2000
08-07-2009, 10:28 AM
Blammer, details.
Do you send him the mold that you want converted?
Thats freakin awsome.
How does that mutha shot?

troy_mclure
08-08-2009, 02:39 AM
i am intrested in that too blammer!

StrawHat
08-08-2009, 05:15 AM
When I used a 44 Magnum, it always carried Lyman 429421s. Over 2400 powder.

Old recipe, and it just plain worked.

EDK
08-08-2009, 08:56 PM
And this is the boolit I'm gonna try this year.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/DSCN7432.jpg

I've been shooting these almost exclusively since I received the mould. Size .431 or .432 with LARS' 50/50, magnum brass, HP-38 or TITEGROUP, and load from mild to wild! Makes some distinctive marks on targets.

:Fire::cbpour::redneck:

troy_mclure
08-10-2009, 01:06 PM
what mold?