44 200 gr RN HP by Mihec

[denul]

There was some ( a minority) interest in this design by 4.5 2.1 on another thread, as an alternative to theSWC design for the revolvers, mostly by rifle shooters concerned about SWC feeding issues. This is not the same as the lighter.444 screamer, or heavier LFN designs. I'd like it for the 44 Automag , (overall length is limited by magazine). Hope I posted this correctly , to see if enough rifle shooters could carry a Mihec HP design. For any who don't know, that design works very well.


http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13211&d=1240871351

[only1asterisk]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13211&d=1240871351

[denul]

Forgot to say - I'd be up for 2 of these, or 3 if gas checks were an option; and would like to know if anyone knows if Mihec will offer more than 2 cavities in his HP designs. Just curious.

[hiram]

this looks good to me.

[Highland Drifter]

I'm in! Just what I always wanted for my S&W 696.

Brian

[hicard]

I like it.

[Highland Drifter]

Denul,

I believe I read in another thread that Miha offered to make his hollow point molds in 3 cavity for a small increase in cost. That would be sweet!

Brian

[denul]

Id be very interested in that !

[hiram]

There's gotta be more interest than this. Wake up guys.

[Thin Man]

Looks interesting. I'd like to learn the as-cast diameter to see whether this would fill up a Marlin micro-groove barrel. Still, this has real potential for the 44 Special. Awwww, what the heck, I'm in. This design would be really handy in GC, but I would still take it in plain base.

[358wcf]

Looks like a winner in a plain-base for my 44Spec revolver, although just a bit more weight would be good. I normally use a 245swc boolit.
I like the profile to improve feeding in my Marlin 44mag rifle, but again, a bit more weight and a GC would be a good idea here.
Let's keep pushing consideration on this one-- It has promise!

358wcf

[Highland Drifter]

Ok guys, where are all the compact 44 special shooters? This is the ideal boolit for revolvers like the S&W 696, Charter Bulldog, etc. This is a much better Hollow point platform than a SWC.

Brian

[only1asterisk]

This is a much better Hollow point platform than a SWC.

Lots of folks will disagree with that statement.

[Springfield]

OK, exactly why is swc HP better? Never understood that myself. To me a SWC is for cutting nice holes in paper.

[azrednek]

I'd go for one if it were adopted as or was optional with a gas check base. Possibly we could do the same as the 41 group buy and make it available in either flat or gas check base.

[Highland Drifter]

Lots of folks will disagree with that statement.

It depends on what you want your hollow point to do. A SWC has 1 advantage... it will cut a nice clean hole in paper targets. It has the disadvantage of shearing the expanded nose at the front band. My Lyman 358156 H.P. bullets expand very nicely, but leave a lead donut behind when the nose blows off. A RNFP H.P. will have a better chance of supporting and holding onto the expanding nose for better weight retention. The RNFP H.P. will also feed smoother (faster) in a revolver than a SWC. Don't get me wrong I'm a SWC fan and shoot thoudands of them. Now to make a few enemies... a SWC is a great nostalgic boolit, but there is better out there so get over it.

Brian

[only1asterisk]

Actually, the SWC's primary advantage is that, all else being equal, the SWC will expand at a lower velocity. While the RNFP will hold on to it's mushroom to a higher velocity, the SWC does fine in the .38 or.44 Special velocity range.

As for RNFP being easier to load, that's true. But with a little practice it really isn't that much of an advantage.

I'm a RNFP guy, but the SWC works great for some applications.

As for the "SWC's for paper only" nonsense, all that really matters in hunting is the velocity, meplat, sectional density and stability (in flight and while penetrating). So long as SWC bullet does these things, it hunts as well as any other bullet.

[denul]

I believe that MiHec has made the GC (or not) an option; can anyone confirm that? Also, for any rifle shooters involved in SASS matches( I'm not), could the collapse or expansion of a HP PB make bounce back from metal plates less likely? I intend to try some of these and the SWC in HP configuration to reduce that risk; just asking.

[Highland Drifter]

only1asterisk,

I think we're probably on the same page as far as RNFP vs SWC. I just like to rattle a cage once in a while, hope no offence was taken. I just prefer my SWC's to be cast solid instead of H.P. The 40 cal Glock and JHP's carried in the urban jungle are left at home when I'm out camping or backpacking in the wilderness. I prefer to carry a 44 or 45 revolver loaded with cast solids with large meplats weather SWC or RNFP. Out in the wild I would rather have complete penetration and make the target bleed out of both holes.

Brian

[only1asterisk]

only1asterisk,

I think we're probably on the same page as far as RNFP vs SWC. I just like to rattle a cage once in a while, hope no offence was taken. I just prefer my SWC's to be cast solid instead of H.P. The 40 cal Glock and JHP's carried in the urban jungle are left at home when I'm out camping or backpacking in the wilderness. I prefer to carry a 44 or 45 revolver loaded with cast solids with large meplats weather SWC or RNFP. Out in the wild I would rather have complete penetration and make the target bleed out of both holes.

Brian

No offense offered or taken, we're about on the same page. The SWCHP is great for walking around busting jackrabbits and no slouch should you be required to shoot larger varmints. Cast solid the same boolit might be enough for deer (454423 comes to mind).

[GLL]

denul:

How about making a signup list so we can see who is in or out on this one ? :)

Are you going with a 2-cavity MiHec brass Cramer style HP mould ?

Jerry

[denul]

I barely know how to post, but would certainly welcome such a list if anyone knows how to put it on here.

[Highland Drifter]

I'll start one to see if we could get more interest in this one.

1. denul
2. only1asterisk
3. hiram
4. Highland Drifter
5. Hicard
6. Thin Man
7. 358wcf

If I included someone not interested or left someone out, copy and paste a revised list.

Brian

[Denver]

I'd be in for one of these. I'm in for the SWC version also. but would prefer this design for use in rifles. More info on the 3 cav version please. Can the maker vary the diameter from one mold to another, or would all molds from a run have to be the same?

[captaint]

While I would prefer a plain base, I think I would have to order one of these for my 44spl. Just looks like fun!! Enjoy Mike

[denul]

Thanks, highland drifter,for starting the interest list. I'd be in for 3, 1 gascheck and 2 PB.

[azrednek]

I'll be in if it is available with a gas check.

[wdr2]

Interested in one mold, PB, 2 or 3 cavity. Should feed better in rifles than the SWC design. What is the diameter?

[GLL]

I'll start one to see if we could get more interest in this one.
If I included someone not interested or left someone out, copy and paste a revised list.

Brian

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram
6. Highland Drifter
7. Hicard
8. Thin Man-GC
9. 358wc
10. Denver
11. capaint-PB
12. azrednek-GC
13. wdr2-PB
14. GLL-GC
15. GLL-PB

[Denver]

My vote is for a PB version.

[Springfield]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram
6. Highland Drifter
7. Hicard
8. Thin Man-GC
9. 358wc
10. Denver-PB
11. capaint-PB
12. azrednek-GC
13. wdr2-PB
14. GLL-GC
15. GLL-PB
16. Springfield-PB

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram
6. Highland Drifter-PB
7. Hicard
8. Thin Man-GC
9. 358wc
10. Denver-PB
11. capaint-PB
12. azrednek-GC
13. wdr2-PB
14. GLL-GC
15. GLL-PB
16. Springfield-PB

[hicard]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram
6. Highland Drifter-PB
7. Hicard-PB
8. Thin Man-GC
9. 358wc
10. Denver-PB
11. capaint-PB
12. azrednek-GC
13. wdr2-PB
14. GLL-GC
15. GLL-PB
16. Springfield-PB

[ddixie884]

I would be interested in one of these as well, add me to list.

[Springfield]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram
6. Highland Drifter-PB
7. Hicard-PB
8. Thin Man-GC
9. 358wc
10. Denver-PB
11. capaint-PB
12. azrednek-GC
13. wdr2-PB
14. GLL-GC
15. GLL-PB
16. Springfield-PB
17.ddixie884
18. zbench

[Highland Drifter]

When this mold gets produced we'll have to request extra 5 sided HP pins as an option like the .452-200 Cramer re-run.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=56639

Brian

[Springfield]

Sounds lke Miha should just make the 5 sided pin standard and forget the round pins.

[hicard]

Springfield, it might just come to that after we find out how effective they are and Mihec finds out how to produce them economically.

[Zbench]

sign me up!

[hiram]

On Miha's site there is mention tahe a nose punch is provided with the mold. Would that be included here?

[hiram]

We need two more subscribers to reach 20.

[Highland Drifter]

Bump. This one is too good to let go, we only need a couple more people interested. This boolit would be useful in most any 44 handgun or rifle. My plans for it would be 44 Special loads for my S&W 696 and maybe light 44 Mag loads for S&W and Ruger 44 Mag revolvers. I would think this one would work well in 44-40 rifles/revolvers.

Brian

[denul]

I went for 3 of these to get this thread started, and another SWC on the thread I separated this one from. It would be hard to justify 4 of these, although I plan one as a gift. My brother is a SASS 44-4o shooter, and I wanted to try the GC version in a 44 Automag. I agree that it certainly seems versatile, and its light weight might stretch somone's lead supply enough to kick in for one. Sounds like I'm grasping here, and I am, but this would really round out a 44 mold collection. I'm also in for the both of Miha's H&G 503 Keith and HP versions. Sorry for the random post that doesn't add another order, when we just need 2, but here's hoping that someone connects...

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram
6. Highland Drifter-PB
7. Highland Drifter-PB
8. Hicard-PB
9. Thin Man-GC
10. 358wc
11. Denver-PB
12. capaint-PB
13. azrednek-GC
14. wdr2-PB
15. GLL-GC
16. GLL-PB
17. Springfield-PB
18.ddixie884
19. zbench

I'll put in for another one. I'm glad Miah's molds are spaced out so the cost is spread over time. I'll be buying hamburger at Costco instead of ribeyes for awhile.

Now we need just one more...

Brian

[pascalp]

Just to help !
Count me, for one PB

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram
6. Highland Drifter-PB
7. Highland Drifter-PB
8. Hicard-PB
9. Thin Man-GC
10. 358wc
11. Denver-PB
12. capaint-PB
13. azrednek-GC
14. wdr2-PB
15. GLL-GC
16. GLL-PB
17. Springfield-PB
18.ddixie884
19. zbench
20. pascalp-PB

Ok that makes 20...

[kirb]

I would be interrested in a 3 cav. what is the price and where do I send the money.
Kirb

[Highland Drifter]

kirb,
Miha of M.P. Molds standard H.P. mold has been a 2 cavity cramer configuration. These molds are very high quality and cast good H.P. boolits.

Brian

[Highland Drifter]

I got a P.M. from Miha saying he would add this one for a future project.

Brian

[DJ303]

What would the cost be for a PB 2cav? Looks like just the ticket for my bulldog!

[Highland Drifter]

DJ303,
Cost for the 2 cav H.P. molds have been $85 + 15 for shipping.
I agree, this is a great boolit for a compact 44.

Brian

[Highland Drifter]

Would everyone be happy with a .432" as cast diameter for this one when it gets produced?

Brian

[kirb]

I will take one what is the time frame. I have never done a group by on the Miha moulds. I would like the plain base.

Kirb

[Denver]

Would everyone be happy with a .432" as cast diameter for this one when it gets produced?

Brian

I have 44s that have cylinder throats that range from .428 ( S&W 696) to .434 (3rd gen Colt SAA) and others in between. I would prefer to go bigger and size down to what I need. .434 would work better for me.

:castmine:

[hiram]

I size to .430 so .432 is fine.

[Springfield]

Here we go again. Mihec can do moulds in 2 different diameters, so we will probably need to do .432 and .434. It's always the 44-40 guys versus the 44 Mag guys. I'm one of the 44-40 guys, so I would want a .432.

[wdr2]

0.432 is what I need

[krag35]

I'd be in for a 2 cavity HP GC @ .434

Sorry, I posted this on the wrong thread.

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram
6. Highland Drifter-PB
7. Highland Drifter-PB
8. Hicard-PB
9. Thin Man-GC
10. 358wc
11. Denver-PB
12. capaint-PB
13. azrednek-GC
14. wdr2-PB
15. GLL-GC
16. GLL-PB
17. Springfield-PB
18.ddixie884
19. zbench
20. pascalp-PB
21.Kirb-PB

Kirb,
Miha has projects to do ahead of this one. I couldn't say what his time frame is. Consider how many molds Miha done since last spring, it shouldn't be too bad. I would think of this one as a nice Christmas present?

DJ303,
Are you onboard?

Brian

[LIMPINGJ]

I am in for 1.

[Mohillbilly]

Nice ! I'd like a checked .432 , maybe a pb too.

[brian]

just saw the thread. I'd sure like a 2 cav. 200 gr. HP at 0.431 - 0.432 ish. plain base.

brian

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram .432
6. Highland Drifter-PB .432
7. Highland Drifter-PB .432
8. Hicard-PB
9. Thin Man-GC
10. 358wcf
11. Denver-PB .434
12. capaint-PB
13. azrednek-GC
14. wdr2-PB .432
15. GLL-GC
16. GLL-PB
17. Springfield-PB .432
18. ddixie884
19. zbench
20. pascalp-PB
21. Kirb-PB
22. LIMPINGJ
23. Mohillbilly-GC .432
24. Mohillbilly-PB .432 ?
25. brian-PB .432

[hiram]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram .432 PB
6. Highland Drifter-PB .432
7. Highland Drifter-PB .432
8. Hicard-PB
9. Thin Man-GC
10. 358wcf
11. Denver-PB .434
12. capaint-PB
13. azrednek-GC
14. wdr2-PB .432
15. GLL-GC
16. GLL-PB
17. Springfield-PB .432
18. ddixie884
19. zbench
20. pascalp-PB
21. Kirb-PB
22. LIMPINGJ
23. Mohillbilly-GC .432
24. Mohillbilly-PB .432 ?
25. brian-PB .432

[DJ303]

I'm in. .434 pb

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram .432 PB
6. Highland Drifter-PB .432
7. Highland Drifter-PB .432
8. Hicard-PB
9. Thin Man-GC
10. 358wcf
11. Denver-PB .434
12. capaint-PB
13. azrednek-GC
14. wdr2-PB .432
15. GLL-GC
16. GLL-PB
17. Springfield-PB .432
18. ddixie884
19. zbench
20. pascalp-PB
21. Kirb-PB
22. LIMPINGJ
23. Mohillbilly-GC .432
24. Mohillbilly-PB .432 ?
25. brian-PB .432
26. DJ303-PB .434

[DJ303]

Ooops, make that PB .432

[Springfield]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram .432 PB
6. Highland Drifter-PB .432
7. Highland Drifter-PB .432
8. Hicard-PB
9. Thin Man-GC
10. 358wcf
11. Denver-PB .434
12. capaint-PB
13. azrednek-GC
14. wdr2-PB .432
15. GLL-GC
16. GLL-PB
17. Springfield-PB .432
18. ddixie884
19. zbench
20. pascalp-PB
21. Kirb-PB
22. LIMPINGJ
23. Mohillbilly-GC .432
24. Mohillbilly-PB .432 ?
25. brian-PB .432
26. DJ303-PB .432

[brian]

how many folks have to express an interest before a GB proceeds?
thanks,
Brian

[hicard]

1. denul-PB
2. denul-PB
3. denul-GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram .432 PB
6. Highland Drifter-PB .432
7. Highland Drifter-PB .432
8. Hicard-PB .432
9. Thin Man-GC
10. 358wcf
11. Denver-PB .434
12. capaint-PB
13. azrednek-GC
14. wdr2-PB .432
15. GLL-GC
16. GLL-PB
17. Springfield-PB .432
18. ddixie884
19. zbench
20. pascalp-PB
21. Kirb-PB
22. LIMPINGJ
23. Mohillbilly-GC .432
24. Mohillbilly-PB .432 ?
25. brian-PB .432
26. DJ303-PB .432
__________________

[358wcf]

I'm already on the list as #10 above.
To clarify, I'd like a 2 cavity HP plain base mold that drops at .432"
Just the thing for my 44Spec S&W and 44Mag Marlin.

Looking for this one by year-end 09?

358wcf[smilie=1:

[Springfield]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- PB
3. denul- GC
4. only1asterisk
5. hiram PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-PB .432
7. Highland Drifter-PB .432
8. Hicard- PB .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB
13. azrednek- GC
14. wdr2- PB .432
15. GLL- GC
16. GLL- PB
17. Springfield- PB .432
18. ddixie884
19. zbench
20. pascalp- PB
21. Kirb- PB
22. LIMPINGJ
23. Mohillbilly- GC .432
24. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
25. brian- PB .432
26. DJ303- PB .432
__________________

[brian]

Denul,
when does this go to GB status?
thanks,
Brian

[azrednek]

Is there a Honcho for this group buy??

[Highland Drifter]

Miha (MP Molds) is the Honcho for this project when he gets around to taking actual orders for it. Right now he is waiting to get machine time to complete projects ahead of this one. Right now it's on standby like several others.

Brian

[denul]

I just started the thread to separate those wanting a RNHP from those wanting a SWCHP; couldn't be a Honcho, ever, (even if Miha didn't serve as his own); and have nothing but admiration those with the patience, tenacity and PR skills to dedicate themselves to such a task.

[Highland Drifter]

Bump back to the first page...

[Highland Drifter]

This one is now on the list of "upcoming group buys on Miha'a web sight.

http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=Upcoming_Group_buys

[Groo]

Groo here
Will this fit short cylinders S&W FA etc?????????????

[Highland Drifter]

Groo,
A 44 boolit that cast 218 gr as a solid should be short enough to fit short cylinder revolvers. Maybe 45 2.1 can provide some basic dimensions along with the picture???

Brian

[denul]

Sorry to have to do this , but I need to reduce my order from 3 molds to 2 - one PB and GC. Obligations elsewhere...

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-PB .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432

[HollowPoint]

This is exactly what I've been scouring the internet for the last three weeks or so; hoping to find a good used one in the same configuration.

I'm in for a two cavity Gas Checked version in the .434".
The sooner the better.

I suppose I should write it down in acronym form:

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-PB .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. HollowPoint- GC 434"

[Ramslammer]

G'Day
What is the final choices on this mold?? I think it looks interesting and might take the plunge.
Juddy

[hicard]

Question, can Mihec do a GC and PB cavity in the same mould or would we have to order two moulds for both options?

[azrednek]

Question, can Mihec do a GC and PB cavity in the same mould or would we have to order two moulds for both options?

You will have to get it from Miha but best I recall he was asked on another project and he didn't want to do it with different cavities.

[captaint]

Hi all - what I'm going to be needing is .432 diameter. Might as well add that by my name. When ever Miha is ready to roll. Enjoy Mike

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. HollowPoint- GC 434"
27. 2 dogs- PB .434

[2 dogs]

I recently came into a sweet 1950 Smith.

Guess ya'll can put me in for a 2 cav. HP
mould that will drop 'em at .434 with PB.

[captaint]

Drifter, I'm already on the list for a PB. thanks again Mike

[HollowPoint]

I'd hate for this design to just die out before it ever materializes.

It would be nice to get one of these molds for Christmas, even if I have to buy it as a
gift to myself.

The design just strikes me as awfully good coyote medicine during the winter months.

What's the status on this "Group Buy Discussion?"

HollowPoint

[Highland Drifter]

Hollow Point,
This mold is listed on MP Molds "upcoming group buys"...

http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=Upcoming_Group_buys

Miha is cranking them out pretty fast now. It would be a nice Christmas present... [smilie=1:

[CSH]

Put me down for a .434" GC.

[HollowPoint]

Still waiting.

I know it's on the MiHec list but, does anyone have any kind of time frame as to when this design will make it to the top of that "List?"

HollowPoint

[partsman]

i am confused on the group buy thing i would like to purchase 2 molds on the list from the link.
44 200 rn hp an the 9mm hp what has to be done

the 454423 what is that........

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. HollowPoint- GC 434"
27. 2 dogs- PB .434
28. CSH- GC .434

CSH, you're on the list, welcome aboard. :drinks:

HollowPoint, I have been wanting this one from the start. When it gets here I feel this will be "the" boolit for my S&W 696. Miha of MP molds is a tool maker/machinist that lives and works half way around the world. He is a one man operation that got into mold making as a side business. He has purchased his own CNC mill and is in the process of setting up his own shop. MP molds is a start up business and in time will be able to increase production and turn out molds on the "list" at a faster rate. His brass cramer H.P. molds are top quality and well worth the wait. I don't think Miha can answer when this mold will be produced, but I'm sure he is trying the best he can to get these done for us. When you think about what Miha has produced for members here since that first single cavity 45 cal H.P. mold last spring, I think as a one man operation he has done very well.

Partsman, if you want in on this buy or others post your interest here or on those threads what you want. If you want in on this one choose a Plain Base or Gas Check. Also this one will probably be run as 2 diameters .432" and .434" so choose diameter as well. You can also copy and paste the list in a reply and add your name and choices to the end. When Miha (MP Molds) gets ready to make this mold he will take orders.

[HollowPoint]

I know he's good at what he does. I have one of his 44/444 brass molds that I bought as part of a previous group buy.
I guess I was just hoping against hope that I might be able to get this one before Christmas. I see that it's not likely to happen.
At any rate, I still plan on being one of the buyers of this mold when it finally does happen.

I think that right now I'm just posting to keep this thread alive and nothing more. From the list of interested parties at this point, there may very well be close to 35 or 40 potential buyers when this mold works its way to the top of the list.

HollowPoint

[HollowPoint]

Still Waiting. And bumping this post/thread up so that it's not forgotten.

HollowPoint

[practical_man]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. HollowPoint- GC 434"
27. 2 dogs- PB .434
28. CSH- GC .434
29. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432

[practical_man]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. HollowPoint- GC 434"
27. 2 dogs- PB .434
28. CSH- GC .434
29. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432


I'd also be interested in a .434 diameter gas checked version.

[Alex]

I assume I'll be number 30 on the list. I'm in for one mould, 2 or 3 cavity (whichever is offered), PB, .432.

[Alex]

Since no one responded to my previous post, I'll just try again.


1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. HollowPoint- GC 434"
27. 2 dogs- PB .434
28. CSH- GC .434
29. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
30. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins

"Time flys' like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." - Groucho Marx

[HollowPoint]

This mold seems to be taking a little longer to come to fruition than I expected so, please consider this my official "Take Me Off The List" post.

I think I've found a way to modify an existing bullet mold that will give me a very similar cast bullet.

It seems like the really good bullet mold makers are always really busy. I'd say MiHec falls into this category.

HollowPoint

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper GC .432

[Bulltipper]

OK, i'm a FNG here, but I am interested in one of these, 2 or 3 cav, GC, all available pins. If I ordered a .432, i assume i could size and load this in my 444 as well as size and load for my 44 assuming the proper GC for each?

[Edubya]

I want to encourage this GB, but I'm not on it. This design looks exactly like my SAECO #445 that Erik put a Cramer style mod on. It casts 431 212 gr PB HP and is my favorite boolit! I've run it from 750-1390 fps out of my 4" 629. My most accurate and old hands friendly load is about 17.8 of 2400. That load gives me about 1070 fps.
EW

[Bulltipper]

Can anyone help me out with this? I would like to know what is the difference between a GC boolit and a PB boolit in the shape of the mould. I assume the GC has a slight groove at the base for the GC to crimp into? Can I shoot a GC boolit without seating a gas check or will I encourage gas cutting by doing this. I tried to find a picture of both types of boolit but am having no luck yet. Thanks!
kevin

[Bullshop]

bulltipper
Think about a gas check style design without the gas check as being a heeled boolit. A heeled boolit is what you see in most rim fire cartridges like a 22 long rifle.
There are other centerfire cartridges that use heeled boolits like the 41 Colt or the 310 Martini. If it works well in those it will work as well in any, just find the right load.
BIC/BS

[Lloyd Smale]

im in for a 432 pb. is the 3 cav an option? If so make mine a 3 if not a 2 will do.

[Bulltipper]

Thanks Bullshop, I appreciate the info!

[Alex]

OK, Miha has finished the H&G #503 Cramer Style hollow point moulds. Maybe now we can get this one going?? That would be sweet!!!

[hicard]

Miha has finished the #503? I wasn't notified for payment yet.

[Alex]

Miha has finished the #503? I wasn't notified for payment yet.

hicard,
I haven't been "NOTIFIED" yet either, but I've been watching that thread mouth-wateringly all month waiting for the word from Miha. Now, Dale53 sez all we're waiting for is payment notification. I'm sure ready to send mine and get this one moving to the front.

[Bill Weddle]

Is there still a 3 cavity option ? If so how much ?

I'd be interested in .432" PB .

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432

Lloyd and Bill, you're on the list. I don't know if Miha is going to offer a 3 cavity Cramer or not.

Miha, any chance of offering this one in a 3 cavity?

Brian

[Bill Weddle]

What are the dimensions of this boolit ?

thanks,

[Highland Drifter]

Bill,
This is a 45 2.1 design. Only information provided was the drawing on post #2, no dimensions given. I normally like to see a forward driving band. The picture does not show one, but I'm willing to give this one a try.

Brian

[Alex]

I still don't know who the "Honcho" is for this GB, but, do we have enough orders for Miha to push ahead on this one? I really want this one as an alternate to my H&G #503 Mihec clone and that one is just about ready to ship.

[dragonrider]

Ok I can no longer resist. put me on the list for two (2).
ETBFTTAP

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432
33. dragonrider
34. dragonrider

dragonrider, what flavor do you want: GC or PB?

Alex, Miha of MP Molds is the "Honcho" for the group buys he will be producing.

Good news for this one, a cherry is being ordered for the mold.

Brian

[Slow Elk 45/70]

OK , put me in for a 2 cavity w/pins .434, Thanks, S.L.

[Slow Elk 45/70]

Sorry I forgot...make mine a GC also

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432
33. dragonrider
34. dragonrider
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434

[Cord]

I can't miss out on this one, you guys are right,

this will be a very "special" boolit for small .44s.

Put me on the list, Please.

One mould, size .432 Plain Base, all available pins.

Thanks!

[Bill Weddle]

I like the idea of the 5 sides HP pin and the 3 cavity mould.
But what if any problems can one expect form working the 3 cavity vs the 2 cavity mould ?

[dragonrider]

Brian I,ll take one GC and one PB .432. Sorry I took so long to get back to you.

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Thin Man- GC
9. 358wcf PB .432
10. Denver- PB .434
11. capaint- PB .432
12. azrednek- GC
13. wdr2- PB .432
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432

[hicard]

Ok, I can't stand it any longer, I have to have a GC mould also so please add a GC at .432 on the list for me for a total of 2 moulds. 1 pb and 1 gc.

Hicard at #7 on the list at present time.

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Hicard- GC .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC
15. GLL- PB
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432

[wdr2]

I am backing out of this GB. Purchased the MiHec 503 HP instead.

[Highland Drifter]

Bump back to the front page :razz:

[kirb]

I would like mine to be a .432. do we have any idea when this will be a go

kirb

[Highland Drifter]

kirb,
edited post 129 above. I don't know when this one will be a go. Miha has been moving things along faster with his own cnc mill.

Brian

[OSIRIS]

Ok, Please add me to the list 2 cavity .434, GC

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Hicard- GC .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432
15. GLL- PB .432
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. SuperMag GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. AnthonyB .432 with all pins

Added OSIRIS to the List.

[S.R.Custom]

Add me to this one as well:
.434 GC Penta-pins.

[GLL]

Highland Drifter:

On your next update please add 0.432" to both of my moulds. (#14 & #15)

Thank you !

Jerry

[Highland Drifter]

GLL & SuperMag,
Additions made to post 135. I think most of us will want 5 sided pins in addition to round ones.

Brian

[AnthonyB]

Add me to the list for a .432 two cavity HP with all pins.
Tony

[Highland Drifter]

Tony,
You're on the list, post 135. Do you want a GC or plain base?

Brian

[Muckman]

First timer here...please add me to the list for 1 2cav .432 and all pins. Thanks Pete

[Muckman]

add PB to #141

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram PB .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Hicard- GC .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432
15. GLL- PB .432
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. SuperMag GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. AnthonyB .432 with all pins
40. Muckman PB .432 with all pins

Muckman Welcome aboard, and welcome to the forum!

[hiram]

Are the sizes we are giving the size of the mold cut or the size of the bullet from wheelweights? I mention ww because I believe Mihec bases molds on ww casting.

[Highland Drifter]

Hiram,
Size of the mold is what the boolets drop at based on wheel weights.

Brian

[kirb]

wanted to keep this at the top. Has any on heard from Miha if this one will be cut I think I seen it on his site just wondering when.

Kirb

[hiram]

I'm still in but changing to a gas check design. Someone mentioned 3 cavity. Any $$ info on that??

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram GC .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Hicard- GC .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432
15. GLL- PB .432
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. SuperMag GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. AnthonyB .432 with all pins
40. Muckman PB .432 with all pins

[kirb]

any one know if this mould is on the cut list having a hard time with his page

Kirb

[Highland Drifter]

Kirb,
We are still in a "wait our turn" mode on this one.

Brian

[man.electric]

How can I get added to this list? I am new to Castboolits and I am after a quality HP mold for .44. Thank you!

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram GC .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Hicard- GC .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432
15. GLL- PB .432
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. SuperMag GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. AnthonyB .432 with all pins
40. Muckman PB .432 with all pins

[man.electric]

Actually, scratch me from the list. I really want a quality HP mold for 44 mag, but this probably isn't the one. This would be perfect for 44 special though. Too bad I didn't shoot more 44 special...

[Retired Navy]

Would like to be added to list also, 1 PB, .432 with all pins. Thanks John

[Muckman]

Please remove me from this Group Buy as I was able to order and receive the Mehic H&G 503 HP shortly after joining this much to my surprise. For those of you who don't own one of his molds, you are in for a real treat. Quality of the highest order! Thanks, Pete.

[Johnny_Cyclone]

This looks like it would be a dandy in my 44/40's and 44 Russian's.

[Greg]

Please add me on the list for this mould

Plain base .434 - two cavity - with both penta and hollow point pins

[johnny356ER]

I can't pass this up even though I am in on the SWC design too, I have to have one of these too!
Please make mine a 2 cav PB that'll drop at .432, with all available pins.

[Cord]

I'm #36 on the list.

Please edit to say "all available pins + one set blank pins"

Thanks!

[PoorGuy]

Please add me to the list for a .432 PB and all pins.

[machinisttx]

It depends on what you want your hollow point to do. A SWC has 1 advantage... it will cut a nice clean hole in paper targets. It has the disadvantage of shearing the expanded nose at the front band. My Lyman 358156 H.P. bullets expand very nicely, but leave a lead donut behind when the nose blows off. A RNFP H.P. will have a better chance of supporting and holding onto the expanding nose for better weight retention. The RNFP H.P. will also feed smoother (faster) in a revolver than a SWC. Don't get me wrong I'm a SWC fan and shoot thoudands of them. Now to make a few enemies... a SWC is a great nostalgic boolit, but there is better out there so get over it.

Brian

Shearing the nose off is both good and bad, entirely dependent on exactly what you're using the bullet for. You'll get a larger initial wound cavity, combined with deeper penetration if the nose section shears off, compared to a bullet that stays together after expansion. Increased frontal area damages more tissue, but it also slows the bullet down faster.

In my opinion, you should get both and use each type appropriately. :mrgreen:

[PoorGuy]

I know that Miha makes his pins such that you can invert for a flat nose, but if a dedicated set of flat nose pins is an option, I would spring for a set. Pins sticking out of the bottom makes preheating the mould more difficult.

Also, if a set of small diameter pins was an option, I'd be in for a GC versions in addition to the PB.

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram GC .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Hicard- GC .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432
15. GLL- PB .432
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432 preferably 3 cavity, all available pins.
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432 all available pins + one set blank pins
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. SuperMag GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. Retired Navy PB .432 with all pins
40. Greg PB .434 both penta and hollow piont pins
41. Johnny356ER PB .432 and all pins
42. PoorGuy PB .432 all pins
43. SethD .432 with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins

I've been away for awhile, sorry about the list not being kept up to date.

Looks like Miha hasn't been around to look at this one for awhile. It would be nice to have different pin sizes for this boolit. One similar in size to the one in the drawing, one 5 sided penta pin, and one smaller size for 44 magnum use.

[hiram]

What are advantages/disadvantages of round pin vs penta pin?

[45 2.1]

What are advantages/disadvantages of round pin vs penta pin?

That depends entirely on what you expect the HP to do........... If you want a classic expanded (picture perfect) HP, the five point pin is what you want. You will have to use a softer tough ductile alloy to get it. With that same alloy you can use a deeper round HP and get energy dumping explosive effects also (The neighbor shot a oppossum a few nights ago with one of my 9mm HP boolits. You would have thought the poor thing got hit with a 22 centerfire varmint bullet. It had a very torn up hole lengthwise thru it that you wouldn't believe.) That HP was designed to blow the nose off and dump energy and it does that very well, the base drives thru and exits in most cases so far.

[SethD]

Put me on the list for this one. 432 with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins please.

[Highland Drifter]

Seth,
You're adder to the list on post 162.

[PoorGuy]

Bump for a great bullet design.

[Fugowii]

I've been away for awhile, sorry about the list not being kept up to date.

Looks like Miha hasn't been around to look at this one for awhile. It would be nice to have different pin sizes for this boolit. One similar in size to the one in the drawing, one 5 sided penta pin, and one smaller size for 44 magnum use.

This would interest me greatly!

[Bill Weddle]

^ Back to Top ^

Please update my order with :
2 cavity or preferably 3, all available pins.

What is the status, any time frame or price figure yet ?

[Highland Drifter]

Bill,
Updated post 162. There's been no update from Miha. We are still waiting our turn.

[MiHec]

I'm organizing thinks now for 44spl HP, 44-200HP, 434640HP and 359460HP.

I will cut them in this order

[Highland Drifter]

That is great news Miha. [smilie=w:

[alamogunr]

Add me to the list for a .432 PB with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins.
John

[Alex]

Hoorah!! Seems like we've been waiting a long time for this one. THANKS MIHA!!!

[HollowPoint]

This has taken so long that I actually had myself taken off the list because it didn't seem like it would ever come to fruition.

Now that it looks like it's finally going to happen, I'd like to be put back on the list please.
It's seems peculiar but, I seem to recall in one of my previous reply's regarding the list of interested members in this 44 caliber group buy, I stated something to the effect that I thought that the list could grow to possibly 40 or-so long. Rather prophetic, in a cheezy sort of way.
And now that I've decided to count myself back on the list, it turns out that I may be number 44 on this list.
I think I'll go buy myself a lottery ticket. Wish me luck.

I'd like a Gas Checked version in the .434 size.

Many thanks to the Honcho for this buy. You are one patient man.

HollowPoint


1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram GC .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Hicard- GC .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432
15. GLL- PB .432
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432 preferably 3 cavity, all available pins.
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432 all available pins + one set blank pins
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. SuperMag GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. Retired Navy PB .432 with all pins
40. Greg PB .434 both penta and hollow piont pins
41. Johnny356ER PB .432 and all pins
42. PoorGuy PB .432 all pins
43. SethD .432 with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
44. HollowPoint .434 with the Gas Checked version

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram GC .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432
8. Hicard- GC .432
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432
15. GLL- PB .432
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432 preferably 3 cavity, all available pins.
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432 all available pins + one set blank pins
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. SuperMag GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. Retired Navy PB .432 with all pins
40. Greg Plain base .434 - two cavity - with both penta and flat pins
41. Johnny356ER PB .432 and all pins
42. PoorGuy PB .432 all pins
43. SethD .432 with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
44. HollowPoint .434 with the Gas Checked version
45. alamogunr .432 PB with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
46. Triggerhappy .432 PB with all pins.


Brian

[Greg]

Please amend my order in post #156 ( #40 on list) for this mould to reflect-

Plain base .434 - two cavity - with both penta and flat pins

[Highland Drifter]

Greg,
Updated the list on post #176.

Brian

[Highland Drifter]

45 2.1,

Can you post the nose to crimp dimension for this boolit?

Brian

[45 2.1]

45 2.1,

Can you post the nose to crimp dimension for this boolit?

Brian

Meplat to crimp groove.......... 0.330".

[Highland Drifter]

Meplat to crimp groove.......... 0.330".


45 2.1,
Thank you for the post. It will help some decide if they want this mold.

Brian

[Triggerhappy]

Please add me to your list. .432 PB with all pins.

Thanks,

TH

[Highland Drifter]

Triggerhappy,
You're added to the list on post 176.
Welcome aboard :drinks:

Brian

[hicard]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram GC .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432
7. Hicard- PB .432 W/all available pins
8. Hicard- GC .432 W/all available pins
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432
15. GLL- PB .432
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432 preferably 3 cavity, all available pins.
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432 all available pins + one set blank pins
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. SuperMag GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. Retired Navy PB .432 with all pins
40. Greg Plain base .434 - two cavity - with both penta and flat pins
41. Johnny356ER PB .432 and all pins
42. PoorGuy PB .432 all pins
43. SethD .432 with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
44. HollowPoint .434 with the Gas Checked version
45. alamogunr .432 PB with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
46. Triggerhappy .432 PB with all pins.

[S.R.Custom]

#38, SuperMag, has changed his username. It's now S.R.Custom.

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram GC .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432 W/all available pins
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432 W/all available pins
7. Hicard- PB .432 W/all available pins
8. Hicard- GC .432 W/all available pins
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432 with all available pins
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432 W/all available pins
15. GLL- PB .432 W/all available pins
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432 preferably 3 cavity, all available pins.
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. Cord PB .432 all available pins + one set blank pins
37. OSIRIS GC .434
38. S.R. Custom GC .434 + Penta-pins
39. Retired Navy PB .432 with all pins
40. Greg Plain base .434 - two cavity - with both penta and flat pins
41. Johnny356ER PB .432 and all pins
42. PoorGuy PB .432 all pins
43. SethD .432 with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
44. HollowPoint .434 with the Gas Checked version
45. alamogunr .432 PB with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
46. Triggerhappy .432 PB with all pins.
47. Bear 4570 .432 with the penta pins
48. 101VooDoo 2 cavity .432 PB with all pins - 3 cavity if one's available
49. Calehedron .434 PB with penta pins
50. skimmerhead .432 PB with a set of penta pins also

[captaint]

I would like to add "with all available pins" to my request. Thanks all. enjoy Mike

[Highland Drifter]

Mike,
Edited post 186 with your request.

Brian

[GLL]

Brian:

I would also like all pins on both of my moulds.
Jerry

[Bear4570]

This should be just the thing for my 696 and bulldogs. I'll take one .432 with the penta pins.

[Highland Drifter]

GLL, Bear 4570

Updated the list on post 186.

Brian

[101VooDoo]

Brain,

Put me down for a 2 cavity .432 PB with all pins - 3 cavity if one's available.

Jim

[Calehedron]

I would like to get in on this one also. Just what I have been looking for. I will take 1 3C .434 PB w/ Penta pin and no HP side. If only 2C are available, I will take 2.

[skimmerhead]

put me down for a 2 cavity plain base hollow point with a set of penta pins also. .432 dia.

skimmerhead

[Highland Drifter]

101VooDoo, Calehedron, skimmerhead,

Have you listed on post 186. Calehedron P.M. sent.

Brian

[Cord]

Highland Drifter...

Regretfully, I wish to be removed from the list (#36)

I'm going with the SWC HP for a lightweight, and will join
the list for the 250gr 429640 for the heavyweight.

I really want them all, but the economy says no.
Thanks for your effort...

[Trey45]

2 cav plain base HP with all the pins for me, thanks. .432

[OSIRIS]

Highland Drifter...
I wish to be removed from the list (#37)
many thanks

[PoorGuy]

With 11,366 views, 197 replies and roughly 50 orders, how is this thread still in the discussion phase? At what point does this move to active buys?

Just curious what the trigger point is.

[MiHec]

It is active for me....

I think I will machine this one in august (first weeks).

[PoorGuy]

Great news, thanks Miha!

[HollowPoint]

It's about freaken time.

Hey I'm just kidding.:kidding:

The real reason for posting this reply is that I need to change my preference from the .434 I have listed, to .432 please.

Everything else will remain the same.
I'm number 44 on the list.

Thanks alot.
HollowPoint

[Highland Drifter]

1. denul- PB
2. denul- GC
3. only1asterisk
4. hiram GC .432
5. Highland Drifter-PB .432 W/all available pins
6. Highland Drifter-GC .432 W/all available pins
7. Hicard- PB .432 W/all available pins
8. Hicard- GC .432 W/all available pins
9. Thin Man- GC
10. 358wcf PB .432
11. Denver- PB .434
12. capaint- PB .432 with all available pins
13. azrednek- GC
14. GLL- GC .432 W/all available pins
15. GLL- PB .432 W/all available pins
16. Springfield- PB .432
17. ddixie884
18. zbench
19. pascalp- PB
20. Kirb- PB .432
21. LIMPINGJ
22. Mohillbilly- GC .432
23. Mohillbilly- PB .432 ?
24. brian- PB .432
25. DJ303- PB .432"
26. 2 dogs- PB .434
27. CSH- GC .434
28. practical_man 1 mold. PB .432
29. Alex - PB, .432, 2 cav or preferably 3, all available pins
30. Bulltipper PB .432
31. Lloyd smale PB .432
32. Bill Weddle PB .432 preferably 3 cavity, all available pins.
33. dragonrider PB .432
34. dragonrider GC .432
35. Slow Elk 45/70 GC .434
36. S.R. Custom GC .434 + Penta-pins
37. Retired Navy PB .432 with all pins
38. Greg Plain base .434 - two cavity - with both penta and flat pins
39. Johnny356ER PB .432 and all pins
40. PoorGuy PB .432 all pins
41. SethD .432 with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
42. HollowPoint .432 with the Gas Checked version
43. alamogunr .432 PB with a set of five sided pins and a set of flat pins
44. Triggerhappy .432 PB with all pins.
45. Bear 4570 .432 with the penta pins
46. 101VooDoo 2 cavity .432 PB with all pins - 3 cavity if one's available
47. Calehedron .434 PB with penta pins
48. skimmerhead .432 PB with a set of penta pins also
49. Trey45 .432 PB with all pins

[MiHec]

Please go here (link) and sign up.

Reason is I need your e-mails....


LINK to order page (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=44_200HP_order_page&nosessionkill=1)

[Highland Drifter]

Ordered 1 GC and 1 PB both .432.

Is it time to warm up the pot yet? :cbpour:

Brian

[alamogunr]

Please go here (link) and sign up.

Reason is I need your e-mails....


LINK to order page (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=44_200HP_order_page&nosessionkill=1)

Do I understand this correctly? All 49 molds need to be entered on the order page. Just making sure that I didn't order twice.

John
W.TN

[Triggerhappy]

Ordered mine. Note to self....

[MiHec]

Do I understand this correctly? All 49 molds need to be entered on the order page. Just making sure that I didn't order twice.

John
W.TN

Yes. I need your e-mails and thats the quickest way.

[Highland Drifter]

Miha,
Have you decided what pins will be offered with this mold?

Brian

[Denver]

Miha;

Can this be ordered with the penta point pins only instead of as an extra?

Ron

[hicard]

I ordered 1 pb and 1 gc mould.

[MiHec]

Miha;

Can this be ordered with the penta point pins only instead of as an extra?

Ron

I included all the pins by default.

[Bill Weddle]

Is there a way I can pay with a money order or certified check?
I didn't know about the payment methods listed.

[MiHec]

Is there a way I can pay with a money order or certified check?
I didn't know about the payment methods listed.

Sorry. Paypal, Gunpal or AlertPay are options.

[PoorGuy]

Order placed. Thanks Miha!

[MiHec]

Until now just 16 people signed up.
I see list of 49.

Please go here (link) and sign up.

Reason is I need your e-mails....


LINK to order page (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=44_200HP_order_page&nosessionkill=1)

[kirb]

I there any way you can post who has signed up I think I have

Kirb

[denul]

If i did it right, i have just ordered one PB and one GC - thanks

[Retired Navy]

Just placed order via link, Thank You!

[GLL]

Brian:

Can you mark the list with those who have a confirmed order? I sent in for two moulds !

Jerry

[dragonrider]

Ordered one of each

[Greg]

ordered via provided link

Thanks Miha

[Highland Drifter]

Kirb, GLL,

I don't have any way of knowing if an order went through on Miha's web sight. I PM'ed Miha and asked if he can post a list of those that have ordered. This one has been in the works for a long time. I hope the saying "good things come to those that wait" holds up here. Judging from Miha's past work, there's no reason this mold shouldn't be a winner.

Brian

[johnny356ER]

JUst finished ordering 1 plainbase .432 mold.
Thanks,
johnny

[Trey45]

Ordered mine :-)

[Bear4570]

Ordered.

[Bill Weddle]

Anyone from New Mexico or Arizona ordering this mold ?

[captaint]

Miha,
Just saw the link rec and got one ordered. Done deal. thanks again Mike

[Calehedron]

Anyone from New Mexico or Arizona ordering this mold ?

I am in the SE PHX Valley.

[skimmerhead]

ordered mine via link provided


skimmerhead:lovebooli

[ddixie884]

Just placed my order, I've been gone on the truck for 60 days. Hope it went through.

[pascalp]

Sorry to be late!

Ordered.

[MiHec]

Please go here (link) and sign up.

Reason is I need your e-mails....


LINK to order page (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=44_200HP_order_page&nosessionkill=1)


They are going to machine very soon :coffeecom

[Trey45]

Ordered one .434 :)

[SethD]

Please go here (link) and sign up.

Reason is I need your e-mails....


LINK to order page (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=44_200HP_order_page&nosessionkill=1)


They are going to machine very soon :coffeecom

If we did this back when you posted it the first time we don't need to do it again do we?

[skimmerhead]

Miha could you change my order from pb to gc ?


skimmerhead

[johnny356ER]

Miha,

I think I ordered this one ...I posted as such... One 2cav Plain base with all pins dropping at .432...could you please shoot me a PM just to make sure I did actually place the order with you? Thanks, I know you are busy, but my head hasn't been screwed on that tight as of lately (working 7 days a week right now 12hrs a day)
I appreciate it.
johnny

[MiHec]

If we did this back when you posted it the first time we don't need to do it again do we?

I just reposted this one so people don't need to browse back.

If you all ready ordered you are good to go.

[Alex]

Miha,
I think I ordered one already, but just to be sure, I filled out the form on your order page again. I only need one of these moulds for sure. Sorry to be sooooo late on this.
One .432 PB with all the pins.

Thanks,

[Duckhunter]

Entered my order. 1 gc model, 432

[MiHec]

Last call! This ones are going to machine.....



Please go here (link) and sign up.

Reason is I need your e-mails....


LINK to order page (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=44_200HP_order_page&nosessionkill=1)

[Cord]

I was in on this one,
Then I was out because I went for the heavier .44-640.

Now I’m back in, because that .44-640 is so very nice,
I can’t pass up the lighter one, I want it too!

I think MP moulds, as good as they are, keep getting better.

.

[MiHec]

CLOSED! 27.sept.2010

[Alex]

Hoorah!!!

[alamogunr]

How can I tell if I have entered my order for this mold on Miha's order page? Time passes and I forget.

John
W.TN

[MiHec]

How can I tell if I have entered my order for this mold on Miha's order page? Time passes and I forget.

John
W.TN

Uf.....

I must post a list...

[Trey45]

Mihec, I posted earlier in this thread I need to change my order to ONE .434 mold, I cannot buy 2 molds. I need to cancell the .432 mold order. Thanks.

[MiHec]

Mihec, I posted earlier in this thread I need to change my order to ONE .434 mold, I cannot buy 2 molds. I need to cancell the .432 mold order. Thanks.

Sorry. Fixed now 8-)

[MiHec]

Molds will be finished in 2 days. Here is picture of test casting.
Mold was to hot to picture it :p.

[Alex]

Beautiful!! Can't wait to start casting some myself. Thanks again, Miha!