Fatter 30 orders start here

[Char-Gar]

Folks we are off and running with the new Fat 30/Fatter 30 buy. Please see the drawing below and the discussion on the "Fat 30 thread" for full rules and particulars.

The price will be $58.00 to you for a pair of six cavity Lee blocks. PM me and I will send you my address for payment.

What we are trying to create here is a slightly enlarged version of the original Fat 30 that will work well for the .303 British as well as other fat mil-surps like the 7.65 Argentine/Belgian, 7.7 Jap, 7.64 R Russian, and standard 30's with worn throats such as the Krag.

Plese note the bullet has been modified from two to three crimp grooves and still have plenty of lube and enough body to hold well in the case neck. This should give a little more versitility to the bullet.

I will be happy to try and answer any reasonable questions. I won't answer whining, ********, criticism and other playground attitudes we sometime see around here.

Please seen the drawing here for basic specs.

Please remember that neither 45 2.1 nor myself get a dime or free mold from this deal. We are just doing this so you guys can have what you said you wanted. We cannot control Lee, so you get no guarantees other than our best efforts will be given to have another good bullet.

As the checks come in I will post the zips HERE! I already have the money for 4 molds with checks for three more on the way, so we are off to a good start. When we reach 25 molds, I will give a "last call" and wait two week, I will then deposit the checks and wait another two weeks for clinkers to show up and then send the order to Lee. I will wait ten days and call Lee for a delivery date and sit back and wait. I am not going to bug Lee with call after call.

When the molds get here, I will select one and do a test cast. If everything is OK (as I define that term), the molds will be mailed to your Priority Mail.

To our friends in Canada and Finland, yes I will ship orders there. The price to the Canadians is the same as U.S., but you Finns add a couple of bucks for extra postage. Sometimes folks want to send cash instead of a check..that is OK, but the risk of loosing it on the way to me is on you. Once it get's to me, it will go in the safe with the checks and it will be OK.

Come and get em!!!

[45 2.1]

Fatter30, nose tapering from 0.306" to 0.310" ( 2 thousandths bigger than Fat30) with a 0.316"+ body. Same length as Fat30 with three crimp grooves to allow seating to engagement in the 303 British within allowable cartridge length and stay in the neck. Meplat is 0.18" to allow feeding without snagging hopefully. Lube capacity a little greater

[Calamity Jake]

I need one of these, PM sent.

[fatnhappy]

I'm in. PM sent

[rikkit]

I definitely want in on this one!

[Char-Gar]

Jeeze...If all of the "check's in the mail" orders hatch..we are now up to about 14 molds. In about a week I will start posting zips.

[castalott]

I'll take 2 ....thanks, Dale

[LuvSkye]

I'll take one PM sent

Thanks
LuvSkye

[Hardcast]

Although I am not interested in one of these molds, I am compelled to comment on something in Chargar's post. As a rural mail carrier for the US Postal Service, I beg of you PLEASE DO NOT SEND CASH THROUGH THE MAIL !!!!!! Every organization with a large number of employees will have their thieves, and infortunately we have ours too. I don't know how they do it, but some thieves are able to detect cash in envelopes and there is no recourse to get it back. There are some more comments I could make, but I think I have said my piece. OK, I'm down from the soapbox now. Thank you. :)

[Char-Gar]

Hardcast.. Your point if well taken.. However with some of our overseas friends, the hastle of getting an international money order in dollars is time consuming and quite expensive. Some of them feel it is worth the risk to send cash. That is their decision to make and not mine. I was specific that the risk of loss is with them. Canada does not present a problem, but some of the European countries do.

[Hardcast]

Hardcast.. Your point if well taken.. However with some of our overseas friends, the hastle of getting an international money order in dollars is time consuming and quite expensive. Some of them feel it is worth the risk to send cash. That is their decision to make and not mine. I was specific that the risk of loss is with them. Canada does not present a problem, but some of the European countries do.

Charger,
Understood. My comments were directed toward my fellow postal customers in the US. Being in the business, I know theft happens, and had to preach a little. I have no knowledge of international transactions or the currency situation abroad. OK, I'll go buzz off now. :)

[cropcirclewalker]

My check will go in the mail Monday. I understand that I should acquire the handles myself, so now the question........When should I order the handles from Midsouth and while I am ordering, do I understand that........

This baby is designed to take the Hornady .30 Gas check?

[Char-Gar]

The bullet is designed to be a snap fit for the Hornaday gas check, although I can see no reason you can't use another brand.

The order is for the blocks alone. When and where you aquire the handles is up to you.

It requires a minimum of 25 molds for the order to avoid paying Lee another $150.00 in a set up fee. When I get all of the orders and the money is sent to lee, I will get a delivery date from Lee. When I get that I will post it here and that should be close to the time I receive the molds. It will then take another week or so to get them in the mail. Because of all of the "ifs" and "when" involved, I can't even give you a ball park date for delivery at this time, but it will be at least a two months, maybe more.

The interest seems high, If everybody that PMed me that they want one comes through we are already close to the required 25 molds..

[abunaitoo]

My check will go into the mail tomorrow. Can't wait!!!!

[Calamity Jake]

Charger, MO's is in the mail today.

[abunaitoo]

What's the count now???? I know my check will take a while to get there, but what does it look like so far???

[Char-Gar]

I have not done a actual count, but if all the checks show up, we should be close to if not at or over the needed 25.

[Shepherd2]

Chargar - My check for 2 moulds is in the mail.

[armexman]

My check will be in the mail as soon as I come back from Mexico monday 4-3-06. Please send an address for the check, Thank You.

[Intuldt]

I would also like to get in to this purchase for one mold. Please PM me your mailing address. Thanks.

[Johnch]

I put my check in the mail today .

Johnch

[Char-Gar]

The checks/money order are starting to show up, so here is the first list of zips so you can know when and if the checks show up. I will not republish this list each time, must the new ones that arrive. This is as of March 30, 2006

74429
47401
04463
73112
44286 (2)
73159
62899 (2)
65542
78412 (2)

This makes a total of 9 payments received for 12 molds. We are almost half way there.

[slug]

The money is on the way.

Actually, if I can't use my Visa, I usually send currency to the USA. An international money order costs over six dollars, which is over 10% of the cost of the mould. Surely, the post office doesn't lose ten per cent of the mail.

I've only had one letter go astray for $62, so I'm still ahead of the game.

slug,
P3L 1H4.

[Char-Gar]

slug...I will post your postal code when the money get's here. If it doesn't get here, the risk of loss is yours and not mine.

[twotoescharlie]

check in the mail today

TTC

[Char-Gar]

Here is the next batch of payments received and zips.. Today is April 1, 2006

96744
98045
43445
42701
43774 (2)

This makes 14 order for 18 molds and more are the way. 25 molds is the magic number.

[cropcirclewalker]

Yo, Mr. Slug

Them $umb!tche$ at paypal are anti-gun and I don't know fer sure, but I think one person can paypal money to another person. All they gotta have is an email address as far as I know and they may not even charge for it.

Unless maybe if they do it's only like 2.7 percent or something.

Might be worth looking into for the next time.

[Char-Gar]

Payments received today...April 3, 2006

74063
98801
30078
P3L 1H4

Total orders are 18 for 22 molds. 25 molds is the magic number. More are on the way.

When I get the payments for the full 25 in hand. I will issues a last call for two weeks out. That will give time for any in transit to get here and anybody that still wants in to get in. After that..the door is shut, the checks cashed and the order sent.

Remember the no whine rule!

[35 Whelen]

I'll be sending my money soon.

[CSH]

PM sent. I'm in on this one as well.

[Char-Gar]

Here are three more payments as of April 7, 2006

11429
95466
97148

That makes 21 orders for 25 molds. THE MAGIC NUMBER has been reached..Therefore LAST CALL FOR FATTER 30 ORDERS!

On Monday April 17, the checks, cash and money orders will be deposited. Any funds received after than date will be returned. So, if I don't have the payment by that date you are SOL.

My PM folder is full with over 200 PMs on this mold, so I am going to delete them all. If there is something in your PM that I think I should have saved, then send it again because the first one is gone..gone. I don't need your name and address as I take those from the orders.

I will post the final list of zips on Saturday April 15th. If yout zip does not appear and you have money in transit the send me a PM and I will hold up. Don't send me a PM if you are "going" to put it in the mail. In that case the SOL rule applies

In all cases the no whine rule is in effect.

[Murphy]

How much is this bullet spec'ed to weight in at? Sorry, but I haven't been keeping up with it that well or I would know.

Think it'd make a fairly good boolit for a .30WCF?

Murphy

[Char-Gar]

Murphy...Stay away from this bullet for the 30-30 unless..you have a Marlin Microgroove barrel with a large land diameter..something on the order of .304 or so.

I have a Marlin 30-30 with a groove of .305 and this style of bullet will feed very slick and give supurb accuracy. I have another Marlin and two Winchesters and this bullet won't chamber without way too much force.

[Murphy]

Got it......thanks Charger.

Murphy

[fatnhappy]

My western union money order went out in today's mail, along with my taxes. :(

I sent along a return address sticker in case it helps. Thanks for stepping up to the plate on this one charger.

Dean

[35 Whelen]

My Postal Money Order went out Friday about 4:00 p.m.
Thanks,
35W

[Char-Gar]

The following payments received today..April 8, 2006

A1E 2Y9
73160
33504

This makes 24 orders for 28 Molds.. I made a mistake when I looked at my calendar and set the dead line for April 17. I intended to give two weeks from next monday and that would make the DEADLINE and LAST CAll for April 24. Sorry for the mistake. So April 24 is the day the checks will go to the bank.

[Dutch4122]

Check went in the mail today for 1 mould.

Thanks for putting this one together Chargar.

[Char-Gar]

The following payments came in today... April 12, 2006


47272
35622
35746
Jukka/Finland ....Please PM me so I can make certain I have your mailing address correct. I am not certain if I am dealing with the number 1 or the letter L a couple of times in your address.

That makes 28 orders for 31 molds.

[Char-Gar]

The following payments came in today..April 13

14514
76367
83706


This makes 31 orders for 34 molds.

[SaMerch666]

Sent pm . will take 2 sets will wait for your address

[Char-Gar]

The following payments arrived today

85308
93021
48415

This makes 34 orders for 37 molds

[David R]

Postal Money order went out today

14103

[Char-Gar]

The following payments have arrived as of April 16

65759
85635
75440

This makes 37 order for 40 molds and more on the way

[Char-Gar]

The following payments arrived today.. Tuesda, April 18

29439
14130

This makes 39 orders for 42 molds.


Remember that next Monday, April 24th. is the last day I will take payment UNLESS the payment is already in the mail. If on Monday April 24th you have sent payment and your zip is not posted, let me know and I will hold up for you.

I will check the postmarks of any checks arriving after the 24th and if they are postmarked after the 24th, I will return them to you unopened. I want to get the deal done and over. Life is too short to sit around and wait until some folks get their round tuit.

[David R]

Ummm I think (hope) its 14103 :) :)

David

[Char-Gar]

David..YOu are indeed correct..Thanks for catching that. There is probably some kind of medical scientific term for it, but I have a strong tendency to flip the last two digits in a series of numbers.

[KYCaster]

Chargar: It's called LESDIXIA, and I have that problem too!

Jerry

[KevMT]

Payment sent today.

59701

KevMT

[Char-Gar]

Today's (4-20-06) hatch...

E5K 3X5

[Char-Gar]

Here are two more

59701
62801

[Char-Gar]

Today is pull the pin day (Monday April 24th.) Order received with a postmark after today will be sent back, so save us both some trouble and don't send them.

I emptied my PM box/foder this morning as it had scores and I don't feel like cross referencing each one with the zips I have. It is easier for you do do one than me to do dozens. Honcho is a volunteer position don't you know!

THEREFORE, if you zip HAS NOT been posted and YOU HAVE sent an order, send me a FRESH PM and let me know. If you sent one even yesterday it is gone..gone..gone. ..so send another.

The last two orders that came today are

K4A 2P1
06512

This makes a total of 44 orders for 47 molds.

I will hold off until any orders in the mail have arrived, and then I will deposit the checks, wait two week for any duds to bounce and then send the order to Lee Precison. I am not in the collection business so any bad checks will just be sent back and no mold will be ordered.

[Char-Gar]

Here is one more...

68776 (2 molds)

[Char-Gar]

OK...Here is the last order that I know of. To my knowledge there are none others in the pipe line. If I am wrong PM me asap.

92399

I will deposit the check in the bank on May 1 and two weeks later I will send the order to Lee. After about a week, I will call Lee and get a delivery date and post than on this thread.

I will ask a moderator to "unsticky" this thread, so you will have to hunt it up, to keep up to date.

By my count that makes 46 orders for 49 molds.

[cropcirclewalker]

OK...Here is the last order that I know of. To my knowledge there are none others in the pipe line. If I am wrong PM me asap.

92399

I will deposit the check in the bank on May 1 and two weeks later I will send the order to Lee. After about a week, I will call Lee and get a delivery date and post than on this thread.

I will ask a moderator to "unsticky" this thread, so you will have to hunt it up, to keep up to date.

By my count that makes 46 orders for 49 molds.

Based on your post #52, my cipherin' suggests that it might for 50. I could be wrong. :)

[Char-Gar]

math never was my long suit...

[Char-Gar]

OK.. There checks, cash and money orders is in the bank and as soon as they all clear, I will send the order to Lee.

I did have to send one money order back as the purchaser made it payable to me and then endorsed it on the back as well. Bank doesn't like those. I sent it back today and have send a PM to the buyer. If I can get a fresh money order I can cash before I send the order in, I will get one for him. If not, then I will just order on less mold.

[Char-Gar]

All the money is here, all the checks were good and I sent a Cashier's Check to Lee today for 51 molds. Now we sit back and wait for the good pleasure of Lee.

[cropcirclewalker]

I will deposit the check in the bank on May 1 and two weeks later I will send the order to Lee. After about a week, I will call Lee and get a delivery date and post than on this thread.

Bump

Mr. Chargar, have you heard anything?

[fatnhappy]

move to the top. should be a sticky

[Char-Gar]

I spoke with Pat today (6-25-06) at Lee and we are looking at mid-August for delivery. Perhaps sooner, but no promise. Looks like we are keeping those folks plenty busy. There is five other orders in front of us. The other order I did came out quicker.

Das all for now...

[abunaitoo]

Bump.