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doubs43
07-20-2009, 08:57 AM
A week ago I received my new Hornady LNL AP progressive press. After setting it up, I posted this initial review on the M1911.org site but I think members here might like to read it too. A week into it, I think it's a great press. Everything I've loaded so far has been with cast boolits. Here's the evaluation I did a week ago with a couple of added comments:

Monday afternoon, UPS dropped off my new Hornady Lock-N-Load AP press with the new EZ-Ject system. It is an impressively massive, quality piece of equipment. Here are my initial impressions.

I'll say up front that this press is NOT for the beginning reloader. It's also NOT for anyone who lacks at least some mechanical skills. I've been reloading cartridges for over 40 years on single stage presses and a newer RCBS 4x4 and setting up the LNL proved to be something of a challenge.

Instructions to set up the press are not up to the standards of the press itself and the instructional CD that came with it is defective. Hornady is mailing a new one to me. Hornady could do a lot better with their written instructions.

One of the first things that struck me were the two zerc fittings to lubricate the large moving parts of the press. This press was obviously built to last a long time. The ram piston is unusually massive.

The body of the press has two large mounting holes that appear to be 1/2 inch in diameter but the manual calls for 5/16" bolts. Attaching it to the bench was easy enough. Attaching the optional shell plate was straight forward and easy enough. I'm using shell plate #1 because no one has #45 in stock.

The cams that position the shell plate are factory set but I had to make minor adjustments to one of mine. It's not difficult and was quick to do.

My first challenge was the primer feed. The primers would not enter the slide arm hole properly. They canted, caught on the feed body and wouldn't allow the slide to position the primer. I eventually solved this problem by beveling and polishing the hole entry. The feed now works perfectly and reliably.

Loading the primer feed is easy once the pick-up tube has been filled. Pre-filling extra pick-up tubes would speed things up once the reloading begins.

Installing the dies in the LNL inserts and adjusting them is pretty straight forward. I'm reloading .45ACP and I installed the sizing/depriming die, expander die, powder measure, seating die and taper crimp die in the 5 stations.

The final challenge was mounting and adjusting the powder measure. Be sure you disassemble the measure and clean all of it's parts thoroughly. There is a preservative applied at the factory that must be removed before use. I used denatured alcohol and used graphite powder to lube the outside working surfaces of the parts.

Once mounted, I adjusted the measure to drop the required charge but I wasn't convinced I had it right because the drum only came down just over half way rather than to the bottom. IOW, the drum wasn't moving through it's full range. I emailed Hornady about this (and the bad CD) and they said that was normal. However, between emailing them and receiving an answer, I did some additional adjustments that involved both the depth of the tube in the LNL adapter and changing the clamping device that secures the measure's activation linkage. Now the measure's drum goes through it's full range and, I think, gives greater consistency. (This is one area where the written instructions could be much improved.)

I've loaded 250 rounds of .45ACP so far and while there have been some minor glitches, I'm very pleased with the press and think that it will become even better as it breaks in. (I've added a shell plate for .44 Mag since this was written.)

In conclusion, I think this is a very high quality press that's built to last a lifetime... or two. Once properly set up, it's capable of turning out excellent cartridges with great consistency. If you have reasonable mechanical ability and some experience at reloading then this could well be the press for you.

Now I need to get my coupon for the 1,000 free bullets in the mail! (It was mailed last Saturday.)

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
07-20-2009, 05:57 PM
This link would have probably made your set up tasks easier:

https://www.hornady.com/inst_video_mr.php

Videos on setting up the LnL AP.

Regards,

Dave

Bret4207
07-21-2009, 05:36 AM
Thanks for the link Dave. If I ever get time to set my LNLAP up I'll need that. Shoot, I can't even remember to order shell plates!

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
07-21-2009, 09:14 AM
Not remembering to order shell plates might be a problem in operating the press, that's for sure. I'm in the same boat though. I ordered an upgrade to the new EZject (my press is over ten years old) and I only have one shellplate (.45ACP) that has the cut to clear the EZject "bump." I'm debating sending the other plates I have back to Hornady vs. just hiring a local machinist to do the cuts for me.

I hope the reason you're too busy is either making money or having fun.

Regards,

Dave

Bret4207
07-21-2009, 03:04 PM
[QUOTE=DaveInFloweryBranchGA;618259]

I hope the reason you're too busy is either making money or having fun.

Regards,



Nope, 15 years of honey do's that got put off are now ALL due!!!!

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
07-22-2009, 05:35 AM
Holy Moly!!! 15 years? You're doomed, for sure.

I'll pray for ya, grin.

Dave

Lloyd Smale
07-22-2009, 11:57 AM
dave keep in mind that cutting the plate to clear the ejector boss isnt the only thing you have to worry about. The cut in each plate is at a precised dept. Take for instance the 45acp plate. I is identical to the 308 plate but the cut is slightly differnt so they will not interchange. If the cut is to deap or to shallow the rim will jam between the shell plate and the boss. Also, and this happened to me when cutting one. They can actually warp when you cut that grove in them. Overall its a big headache and if it were me id either sell them and buy the right ones or send them to hornady to have them do it. Not remembering to order shell plates might be a problem in operating the press, that's for sure. I'm in the same boat though. I ordered an upgrade to the new EZject (my press is over ten years old) and I only have one shellplate (.45ACP) that has the cut to clear the EZject "bump." I'm debating sending the other plates I have back to Hornady vs. just hiring a local machinist to do the cuts for me.

I hope the reason you're too busy is either making money or having fun.

Regards,

Dave

Heavy lead
07-28-2009, 06:35 PM
I ordered a second one that should be here tomorrow, I have the older ejector on the one I have now and it works fine on the 45acp, but not on the 45 Colt or 44 magnum. Luckily the shell plate I use for those #32 (yes it works for both even though it is just marked for the 45) is the newer style, so will dedicate the new press to those two calibers. I just love these LNL's. I use a Classic Turret for other less shot calibers, don't know if the LNL's are as good or better as Dillon as I've never used them, but I have no reason to try, these are awesome presses.

Lloyd Smale
07-29-2009, 03:13 AM
ive got two of the new ez ejects and one of the old style. Personaly i think the old style actuallys works better.

Heavy lead
07-29-2009, 06:34 PM
Got the new LNL tonight, some observations:
First of all I think this unit is a steal for the money, I said before I don't have a Dillon, so I cannot compare, but likely I will not own anything but a LNL, I'm that happy with them.
The new one today has two rotors, the normal rotor, and the small case pistol rotor, nice touch.
I ran a batch of 44's tonight (yes on the #32 plate made for the 45 Colt, works fine), my LNL bushings needed no adjustment on the new press, the new style ejector works much better so far IME on these longer cases.
Only issue I saw with this new one is the primer return spring drags on the frame, don't think this will be an issue other than scatching the finish, but slightly annoying.
Very tight, greased up (love the grease zirks), expect it to last a long time, now I'll send in for my free bullets.
Only other disappointment is they no longer offer the 230 XTP's in 45 for the free ones. I guess I'll have to get the 185's.

Lloyd Smale
07-30-2009, 04:06 AM
Heavy metal you can do like me in the future too to make things easier. I have 3 of them now and what i did was buy another entire powder measure assemble and leave it set up in 45 acp. I leave one press set up in small rifle one in large rifle and one is large pistol. I also bought two more bottom ends for powder measures so i can keep them set for the right lenght for rounds i do alot of. I then bout 14 powder bushing inserts so i can keep them set in specific charge weights. I can swap calibers and powder charges in about two minutes right now. Set up like this its much faster then swapping over a dillon. MY neigbor even made me three stands for measures and bottoms that i bought lock and load conversion bushings for so i can leave then handy and set. I even bought one measure for a bench meausre and will probably eventually get two more for the bottoms i have to make it even easier. Heck you can get them for about 70 bucks and they give you a free box of bullets with them too. Ive even go a stand that holds my .223 and 308 dillon trim dies for the motorized trimmer in lock and load bushings so i dont ever have to adust them either. I use that on a lock and load single stage press.

Lloyd Smale
07-30-2009, 10:52 AM
some hornady stuff

Lloyd Smale
07-30-2009, 10:53 AM
another view.