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black44hawk
07-16-2009, 09:23 AM
due to the scarcity of primers, I am stuck with 2400 and magnum primers. Coincidentally, my speer #13 manual states that prior to that edition, they suggested 2400 with magnum primers but not to use magnum with their data. Which for the 44 mag is between 18 to 20 grains with the Keith bullet. Does anyone have some antiquated loading data of this sort. I realize I can back off and experiment up but I am merely curious about prior publications.

winelover
07-16-2009, 10:08 AM
due to the scarcity of primers, I am stuck with 2400 and magnum primers. Coincidentally, my speer #13 manual states that prior to that edition, they suggested 2400 with magnum primers but not to use magnum with their data. Which for the 44 mag is between 18 to 20 grains with the Keith bullet. Does anyone have some antiquated loading data of this sort. I realize I can back off and experiment up but I am merely curious about prior publications.

Hornady Handbook Volume II (1973) for their 265gr. JFP with Fed 150 primer & 2400

Starting load=14.4 for 950 fps
Maximum load= 19.3 for 1150fps

Speer Manual #9 (1974) for their 240gr JSP with CCI Mag primer & 2400

Starting load=17.0 for 1126 fps
Maximum load=19.0 for 1272 fps

Neither lists cast bullet loads but you can safely use jacketed bullet loads for cast!

RCBS Cast Bullet Manual #1(1986) for their 44-240-SWC (GC) with CCI Mag primers & 2400

Starting load=19.8 for 1306 fps
Maximum load= 21.8 for 1443 fps

I have used 22.0 grains in my Redhawk with CCI Mag primers with no problems, cases fly out of cylinder with minimal pressure with this bullet!:castmine:

Hope this is what your looking for.

WINELOVER:Fire:

black44hawk
07-16-2009, 06:56 PM
Yes, Thanks

Lloyd Smale
07-19-2009, 05:53 AM
I use alot of 2400 and although mag primers arent needed for good ignition if a guy has good case tension ive found that like everybody knows every gun is its own animal and some of my loads actually prefer mag primers.

sniper
07-22-2009, 08:17 PM
In one of the Lyman manuals, it states that magnum primers would cause erratic performance and accuracy in some 2400 loads, particularly the 357 magnum ones.
They didn't say not to do it, they just recommended otherwise, leading me to suppose there is no danger, but performance is just better with standard primers.

As in all similar activities, approach with caution.