CLOSED 432-350 GC RF Group Buy is Here.

[SciFiJim]

432-350 GC RF Group Buy is Now Open.


SwedeNelson (Al) asked me to honcho this Group Buy so that he could spend more time in the shop producing molds and less time on the paperwork. These molds will be produced by Night Owl Enterprises (NOE).

This Group Buy is for a 432-350 Gas Checked Round Flat Nosed boolit that is a lube groove copy of the Ranch Dog TLC 432-350 RF bullet designed for the 44 Magnum rifle and 444 Marlin rifle.

The 432-350RFGC Group Buy will close on September 15th. If we don’t have 15 orders by then, the close date will be extended until we do.

Flat Nosed Boolit

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=170&pictureid=1075


Hollow Pointed Boolit

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=170&pictureid=1076


Moulds will be machined from 2024 Aluminum
Used for high strength structural and aircraft applications.
Tensile strength range 30,000 to 63,000 psi
Sprue plate (blued), alignment pins, and hardware will be
carbon steel.

The cost will be as follows:

Single cavity mould $68.00 Ea.
Double cavity mould $72.00 Ea.
Three cavity mould $79.00 Ea.
Four cavity mould $85.00 Ea.
Five cavity mould $92.00 Ea.

Shipping and handling will be $10 per order and shipped priority mail. If you live outside the United States contact me, and I will work with you.

Hollow pointing one cavity and furnishing a double ended pin would be $35.00 extra.
If you want to fashion different HP profiles, an extra blank pin would be $1.50



Lead time is 4-5 weeks after Group Buy closes. Tooling will be ordered once we get to 15 paid orders so don’t delay.

Instructions for using the Group Buy order system page are HERE (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=56550).

Use the Group Buy order system HERE (http://www.groupbuys.dnsalias.com/login.asp) to place your order. Use the link provided or use the link at the bottom of the page. Print two copies of the order sheet and mail both to me with your payment. Once we are ready to go, I will place the order with NOE. The molds will be shipped to me and I will distribute them. I will accept bank check, money order or PayPal + 3%. If using PayPal contact me first.

We can get gas checked and non gas checked cavities cut in the same mould. Specify on the order sheet what your preference is.

The mold is machined to use LEE Commercial 6-Cavity handles (not included).
A Lyman, RCBS type top punch is furnished with each mould as well as a sample of Bull Plate sprue plate lube.

Visitors from other forums are welcome to participate in this group buy.
Email me at scifijim - at - gmail.com
Do the normal voodoo with the address to make it work, I don't want spambots to skim for my address.

Please leave a post here or PM me when you order and I will add you to the list.

I will post a running list of confirmed orders with username and options and a list of zip codes that payments have been received from in the next post.

[SciFiJim]

Confirmed Orders
1. GLL - single cavity w/HP + three blank pins
2. 6pt-sika - 5 cavity
3. 6pt-sika - single cavity w/hp
4. timbuck - 4 cavity
5. kfarm - 2 cavity
6. no34570 - 3 cavity w/hp
7. 15bobcat - single cavity w/hp
8.
9. Ron.D - 5 cavity (2 GC & 3 PB)
10. Clyde - 4 cavity
11. 7.62Man - 2 cavity
12. DaveD - 4 cavity w/HP
13. PoorGuy - 4 cavity (2 GC & 2 PB)



Zip Codes of paid orders
22960 x2
91106
53132
12586
72206
3889 Australia
L9S2B6 Canada
64093
85205
P7G1M3
30062

[JesterGrin_1]

I think this will be a GREAT BOOLIT for the 444 Marlin. Not so sure about a .44 Mag though as there would not be much room left in the case for powder. But at the .325 of the nose and a trim length of the .44 Mag of 1.280 it will function in a .44 Mag Marlin with an AOL of 1.605 with room to spare.

At times like this I wish I had a 444 Marlin but my 45-70 Marlin will just have to do.:)

[6pt-sika]

I think this will be a GREAT BOOLIT for the 444 Marlin.



I already KNOW it's a fine bullet for the 444 !

I was fortunate enough to get one of Ranch Dog's test molds for this bullet and have shot it quite a bit in a slow twist Micro Groove barreled 444 !

So with that being said I think I need a 5 cavity of this but also need to decide if I want a single cavity hollow point as well !

So lets see that would be $92 for a 5 cavity and another $68 for a single cavity with an additional $35 for hollow pointing plus $10 to ship with a pair of top punches included !
For a grand total of $205 .

I suppose I better start counting pennies and quickly [smilie=1:

[6pt-sika]

Incidently I've been afforded the oppurtunity to get in on a Damage Control Permit hunt for black bear here in VA in the next week or so on a friends peach orchard .

I sighted in one of my old Marlin 444's with the tumble lube grooved version of this bullet from my Ranch Dog test mold !

Without a doubt if I get an oppurtunity for a decent shot this bullet will be up to the task :drinks:

[JesterGrin_1]

Lucky You my Friend. Now go get yourself a BEAR Coat. :). I would like to have a BEAR coat but it would have to be a Two Bear Coat lol. :)

[GLL]

Jim:

I will take one (1) single cavity HP version along with three (3) extra blank pins.

Jerry

[SciFiJim]

Jerry,

Your are four for four on my group buys.:-D

I'll add you to the list.
Thanks
Jim

[6pt-sika]

PM sent [smilie=1:

[6pt-sika]

A second PM sent [smilie=1:

[kfarm]

Please put me down for a 2 cavity with gas check.
Thanks Carroll

[SciFiJim]

kfarm - I added you to the list
Thanks
Jim

[SciFiJim]

I will be on vacation from 7/19 to 7/31. Contact will be spotty, but I will try to check in each day. Please direct questions to SwedeNelson until I get back. He has my cell number if he has to get a hold of me. My mail will be held at the Post Office for safekeeping, so any payments that have been mailed will be safe.
Jim

[6pt-sika]

Hmmmmm , hope you have alot of checks in the mail when you return home from vacation !

Otherwise it looks as if a bunch of guys that did the poll for wanting one may have renigged [smilie=1:

[15bobcat]

I'm in for a 1 Cavity Gas Checked Hollow Point Option. Payment sent from 12586.
Thanks,
-Harold

[SciFiJim]

I am back from vacation. Wow, more that 4000 miles driven in 12 days. We live in a beautiful country.

The list of payments received have been updated in post two of this thread. Check to see if I have posted yours. I will also PM everyone that I received a payment from.

[bearcove]

I still want one, but money for toys is hard to come by right now. Saving up for it as we speak. Still have a month.

[6pt-sika]

I do hope this buy will go ahead and take off so I can get the 432350 HP mold in time to use this season !

I've already had a good field test with the Mihec 433-295 HP on whitetail deer !

And I have another rifle set up with the Lyman 429640 HP Devastater bullet . With luck I'll have tried the Lyman bullet on a deer within the next 2 weeks . [smilie=1:

[6pt-sika]

Almost forgot , this past wednesday I tried the Ranch Dog 432350GC bullet on a deer in a place where a friend and I have Damage Control Permits and it obviousely passed with flying colors :drinks:

[SciFiJim]

I will be out of touch the next few days visiting in-laws. SwedeNelson can answer any questions.
Jim

[6pt-sika]

One month later and still only 5 folks stepped to the plate even though it took 15 folks to get it started as a group buy !

What is up with that :???:

[6pt-sika]

At the rate this is going I might never see a 5 cavity version of the RD 432300GC or the HP and much less the 432265GC HP :roll:

[no34570]

I'm in on this deal,just have to finish paying for my stepfathers funeral.

Should be in about 3 weeks,maybe two,but have let SciFiJim know and will pay him as soon as I can.

Cheers
Dale
no34570

[joecool911]

I'll take one just to help you guys out:drinks:

How many cavity are people ordering? Price differential is not that much. So whatever others are ordering is what I will order too.

I will have to then figure out how to group buy.

Joe

[SciFiJim]

Joe,
Current orders and zip codes of payments received are listed in the second post of thread. So far we have orders for 1, 2, 4, and 5 cavity molds. It really just depends on what you want. 1 and 2 cavity molds are lighter, 4 & 5 cavity molds have a higher production rate. 3 cavity if you want in the middle. [smilie=1:

Let me know which you want and I will get you on the list.

Thanks
Jim

[joecool911]

I guess I will take the 2 cavity. I am not a high volume shooter.

[SciFiJim]

Joe,
I'll add you to the list.
Thank You
Jim

[no34570]

Jim
Just paid for my mould by paypal,sorry for the wait.

no34570

[6pt-sika]

And we still need 7 or 8 more :groner:

[SciFiJim]

There seem to be a lot of group buys going on right now. Its hard to choose which to get in on. I've had to pass on a couple that I wanted as well. I am trying to save up my change for a new bottom pour pot.

We will get there. It will just take a little time.

[6pt-sika]

There seem to be a lot of group buys going on right now. Its hard to choose which to get in on. I've had to pass on a couple that I wanted as well. I am trying to save up my change for a new bottom pour pot.

We will get there. It will just take a little time.


And with that being said it'll be next july before we get to this point with the Ranch Dog 432-300GC !

I'd still like a 5 cavity 432-300GC , a single cavity HP of the same thing and last but not least a single cavity HP of the Ranch Dog 432-265GC :bigsmyl2:

[MDF99]

I've never casted bullets like this one that have so many lube grooves. What is the procedure for lubing these bullets? Do you lube all the grooves or just some of them? My lube & size dies have 3 rows of holes. Thx for the info.

[6pt-sika]

I've never casted bullets like this one that have so many lube grooves. What is the procedure for lubing these bullets? Do you lube all the grooves or just some of them? My lube & size dies have 3 rows of holes. Thx for the info.


The amount of lube grooves makes no difference you just set the die so it doesn't put lube in the crimp groove and do the same as any other bullet . Sometimes you may have to run them into the die more then once to fill out or either keep a lot of pressure on the lube reservior .

[6pt-sika]

I failed to mention earlier !

I've been doing some "Damage Control Hunting" on a friends peach orchard for black bear and whitetail deer !

I got a pretty fair sized deer back a few weeks ago with the Ranch Dog 432-350GC bullet . Shot it with 45 grains of H322 and a CCI200 primer . I used a slow twist Micro Grooved 444 so I water quenched the WW bullets as they dropped from the mold .

Obviousely the deer was no match for this bullet . I had been using it in hopes that one of the black bear we were able to take would walk out in front of me .

[Clyde]

I will take a 4-cavity mold but it will be at least a week before I get home to a printer to send the order forms.

[SciFiJim]

Ron.D & Clyde - I added both of you to the list.
Thanks
Jim

[Landric]

Using my excellent skills at math, it seems that a single cavity mold with hollow point including shipping would be $113. Is that correct? I am interested, but I have to figure out if that is something I can afford right now. I would like it very much in my .444 Marlin this fall.

[SciFiJim]

Landric - you have great skills in math. I had to look at a spreadsheet to verify what you figured out. Yes, the total for a single cavity with hollow pointing and shipping will be $113. Let me know when you are ready to order and I will add you to the list.

[6pt-sika]

Only 5 more to make this a go [smilie=6:

[6pt-sika]

Then we can go with the 432-300GC as I want another 5 cavity and a single cavity with a HP !

Or we can to the 432-265GC as I'd also like a single cavity HP in that one as well [smilie=1:

[bearcove]

Still on the fence, and have question. This is a larger boolit so heat control starts to become important. What are the mould block sizes. Are they different for each # of cavities? Two different sizes? I have a 3 cavity 311407 but no other sizes.

Don't need exact sizes. Just don't want to get say a five cavity instead of a four if they are the same size block.

If that didn't make any sense let me know and I'll try to explain better. I'm better with pictures than words. But only with a pencil I'm an analog man.

[SciFiJim]

bearcove,
Yes, there are five different sizes of blocks. The five cavity mold will be larger (and heavier) than the four cavity mold.

[6pt-sika]

While I haven't recieved one of Swedenelsons molds yet in a 5 cavity , I do have several 6 cavity Lee and NEI molds . Those and the Swede molds are all machined from aluminum and a 6 cavity Ranch Dog 460=350GC isn't that heavy to cast with , so a 5 cavity 432-350 shouldn't be either I my opinion .

[SciFiJim]

This Group Buy is due to close today. We only have 10 orders. SwedeNelson very graciously agreed to waive the setup fee. Because of that I will keep the group buy open until the final payment comes in. It should be here in a couple of days. I will close the Group Buy then. If you have hesitated on this one, then NOW it the time to move on it.

[6pt-sika]

This Group Buy is due to close today. We only have 10 orders. SwedeNelson very graciously agreed to waive the setup fee. Because of that I will keep the group buy open until the final payment comes in. It should be here in a couple of days. I will close the Group Buy then. If you have hesitated on this one, then NOW it the time to move on it.

So then with a little luck this one should be in hand in about 6 weeks give or take a week :smile:

[SciFiJim]

Still waiting on the last payment!

[7.62Man]

Jim,

I am in on this one as well will take a two cavity

[SciFiJim]

7.62Man,
I added you to the list.
Jim

[DaveD]

Jim,
Just ordered a 4C w/HP on the GB site. Gotta go look at the original post to see if I should just PayPal Al.

Thanks!!

[SciFiJim]

DaveD - I added you to the list. PayPal is available, but you can save yourself the PayPal fees and just mail it. Either works. Let me know which you would prefer.

[SciFiJim]

I am awaiting on a payment from Canada (thanks 7.62Man). As soon as it arrives I will close this group buy and mail it off to NOE.

[6pt-sika]

I am awaiting on a payment from Canada (thanks 7.62Man). As soon as it arrives I will close this group buy and mail it off to NOE.

Excellent !

Thanks for your efforts on our behalf !

[PoorGuy]

I hope I'm in time...

Put me down for a 4 Cavity - 2 PB & 2 GC.

Thanks!

Shane

[SciFiJim]

Shane,
I will add you to the list. PM inbound.

Thanks
Jim

[SciFiJim]

OK, this Group Buy is now CLOSED. No further orders will be taken on it, but NOE may make a few extra for sale later. I will send the order off early next week. Stay tuned for details. Thanks guys for participating.

[SciFiJim]

As per the Group Buy thread policy, I am moving thread to the "Closed" section of the Group Buy forum.

[6pt-sika]

OK, this Group Buy is now CLOSED. No further orders will be taken on it, but NOE may make a few extra for sale later. I will send the order off early next week. Stay tuned for details. Thanks guys for participating.

Okay so after you put the funds in the mail monday we should "hopefully" have these in hand about the first week of november .

[SciFiJim]

It depends on where they fit in the manufacturing schedule at NOE. I know that they are pretty busy, but the wait will weeks instead of months as with Lee Precision.

[6pt-sika]

Lead time is 4-5 weeks after Group Buy closes.




?????????

:veryconfu

[SciFiJim]

Lead time is 4-5 weeks after Group Buy closes.

This means that in 4-5 weeks they will be manufactured, shipped to me, individually repackaged, and then shipped to those that ordered them. This one should be easy to reship, there are only twelve to repack. I could do that in one evening.

On the other hand, there are 37 of the 454424 molds that will need to be repacked for shipping. That might take a couple of evenings.

[6pt-sika]

This means that in 4-5 weeks they will be manufactured, shipped to me, individually repackaged, and then shipped to those that ordered them. This one should be easy to reship, there are only twelve to repack. I could do that in one evening.


So then like I said in a post earlier we should have in hand the first week of november . Since it's now the last week of september , atleast 4 weeks in october and the first week of november makes over 5 weeks easily .

[SciFiJim]

The order went out in the mail today. Here's hoping for sooner rather than later. NOE does a great job in getting these group buys turned around in a much more timely manner than Lee.

[6pt-sika]

Okay it's been 3 weeks any news [smilie=s:

Yeah I know sooner or later someone was gonna ask so I figured I'd beat them to the punch [smilie=w:

[PoorGuy]

I'm anxious to get this one. It will be my first from NOE and I'm looking forward to getting the 265 and the 300 in this series, but won't pull the trigger until I can see how the 350 turns out.

I know NOE has a great reputation here, but I prefer to judge things for myself - especially when there's a couple of hundred bucks on the line. ;)

[GLL]

NOE does a great job in getting these group buys turned around in a much more timely manner than Lee.

Jim:

You are the master of understatement ! :) :)

Not only are the NOE moulds VERY finely crafted they are coming off of the "assembly line" at a rapid pace !

If you look at all of the variation NOE allows on these buys they are essentially making custom one-off moulds!

I own several and they are all flawless !

Congratulations to Al and his crew for a job VERY well done!

I think I might order another one from NOE someday ! ;) ;)

Jerry

[6pt-sika]

So where are we at it's been about 6 weeks :veryconfu

[PoorGuy]

Bump. [smilie=s:

[SwedeNelson]

cast with the first mould today.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/432350GrRFRD001.jpg

Dim. are good.
Weight 334.7Gr. with my WW material.
Gas check snap fit.
Will get them out in the mail tomorrow

Swede Nelson

[GLL]

Dim are VERY good ! :) :)

I look forward to getting my single cavity HP version !

Jerry

[SciFiJim]

I packaged and labeled all of the molds tonight. They go to the post office in the morning. You will all be getting them soon. :)

[PoorGuy]

That's great news! Thanks SFJ.

[Clyde]

64093 - Mine arrived today in great shape. It really looks good.

[6pt-sika]

64093 - Mine arrived today in great shape. It really looks good.

Hmmmm you're in MO so I should get mine here in VA by tuesday I would think [smilie=s:

[DaveD]

Got mine today as well.

[timbuck]

Got mine on Saturday. Envelope looks good. I didnt open it yet.

[6pt-sika]

By the tracking number mine is in the state of Virginia close to Richmond so I would like to think it will be in my mailbox MONDAY but we shall see !

[SciFiJim]

6pt-sika - I don't think it will fit in your mailbox. There will probably be a notice instead. Make sure you get to the PO while they are still open so that they can get it for you from the back.

[6pt-sika]

6pt-sika - I don't think it will fit in your mailbox. There will probably be a notice instead. Make sure you get to the PO while they are still open so that they can get it for you from the back.

Thats no big deal I'm about 75 yards from the Post Office all day during the week and am able to go there at will [smilie=w:

Actually i have a bunch of stuff coming right now that will be notice's ! So I kinda hit the PO two or three times a day to see if anything else has appearred :bigsmyl2:

[SciFiJim]

Thats no big deal I'm about 75 yards from the Post Office all day during the week

I got ya beat. I work there. Makes it easy to mail molds to people. I just take them to work with me. :)

[kfarm]

Jim the mail just ran here and I got mine and as always it looks good, caint wait to try it.
Thanks Carroll

[6pt-sika]

Picked mine up at the PO window about an hour ago !

The 5 cavity and the single cavity HP both look very nice !

Thanks :bigsmyl2:

[GLL]

Jim:

My single cavity HP version just arrived !

BEAUTIFUL mould ! :)

Thank you !

Jerry

[no34570]

Jim
Got home today and a little box was waiting for me :)
It was my 3 cavity HP mould.
Thanks for the GB mate,lovely looking mold.

[Ron.D]

Mine arrived safe and sound today. It's in the oven along with the 360-190 going through the heating cooling process. Thanks for all your efforts and a good looking product. Merry Christmas everyone. Ron.D