lead_her_fly
06-28-2009, 03:43 AM
Well, I got to the range for a test of the 160gr WC Modern Bond mold. The number on it is D-358-627. It comes out of the mold at .360" so this bullet could be used very easily for the 38S&W too.
My alloy is straight wheel weights and these were not water dropped.
Here is what they look like:
(The one in the middle)
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Boolits/3bullets1.jpg
The powder used was Bullseye @ 3.0gr. Seating depth was to the crimp groove. I filled the groove with case much like in the picture below:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Boolits/158grPinLoads1.jpg
Cases were mixed and the primers were Remington standard small ones.
I shot them out of 3 different firearms, these ones below:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting/Theguns.jpg
The top one is one of my favorites, a M586 with a 6" barrel, (this one is the wife's) the one in the middle is a Beretta Laramie in 38spl, (it is similar in grip configuration to the S&W Model #3 in 44 Russian) and a newer version of the M637, my ankle gun. Several in recent days have asked about reduced loads for their M637. In the videos provided you will notice the difference in recoil from the bigger firearms to the smaller one. Quite a difference. You will have to click on each video to watch themI air-headed the length of the Laramie, it is 5" not 6".)
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/th_100_0992.jpg (http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/?action=view¤t=100_0992.flv)
The Laramie:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/th_100_0995.jpg (http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/?action=view¤t=100_0995.flv)
Last but not least, the M637. Notice the increase in recoil:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/th_100_0997.jpg (http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/?action=view¤t=100_0997.flv)
The numbers shake out like this:
M586:
Low 725fps
High 755fps
Avg 741fps
ES 30fps
SD 9.89fps
Laramie:
Low 704fps
High 716fps
Avg 709fps
ES 112fps
SD 4.69fps!
M637:
Low 649fps
High 659fps
Avg 656fps
ES 10.5fps
SD 4.12fps!
From the last two revolvers the numbers turned out pretty consistent. They are all lower, much lower than what I usually shoot from all of these firearms but you could shoot a lot of these rounds through any one of the three without hurting yourself.
As for accuracy, they were all within 1" @ 12yrds from the bigger firearms and well over that from the smaller one. In the videos I intentionally dropped the hammer on an spent round just to see how I was doing with trigger control. Sorry if that bores you but I was trying to kill two birds with one stone!
I am going to take the charge up to 3.5gr of Bullseye and possibly change powders on this bullet in the near future. AA#2 and SR4756 are in the "cards" along with HP-38.
Hope this helps!
My alloy is straight wheel weights and these were not water dropped.
Here is what they look like:
(The one in the middle)
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Boolits/3bullets1.jpg
The powder used was Bullseye @ 3.0gr. Seating depth was to the crimp groove. I filled the groove with case much like in the picture below:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Boolits/158grPinLoads1.jpg
Cases were mixed and the primers were Remington standard small ones.
I shot them out of 3 different firearms, these ones below:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting/Theguns.jpg
The top one is one of my favorites, a M586 with a 6" barrel, (this one is the wife's) the one in the middle is a Beretta Laramie in 38spl, (it is similar in grip configuration to the S&W Model #3 in 44 Russian) and a newer version of the M637, my ankle gun. Several in recent days have asked about reduced loads for their M637. In the videos provided you will notice the difference in recoil from the bigger firearms to the smaller one. Quite a difference. You will have to click on each video to watch themI air-headed the length of the Laramie, it is 5" not 6".)
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/th_100_0992.jpg (http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/?action=view¤t=100_0992.flv)
The Laramie:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/th_100_0995.jpg (http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/?action=view¤t=100_0995.flv)
Last but not least, the M637. Notice the increase in recoil:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/th_100_0997.jpg (http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/Sackettwannabe/Shooting%20Videos/?action=view¤t=100_0997.flv)
The numbers shake out like this:
M586:
Low 725fps
High 755fps
Avg 741fps
ES 30fps
SD 9.89fps
Laramie:
Low 704fps
High 716fps
Avg 709fps
ES 112fps
SD 4.69fps!
M637:
Low 649fps
High 659fps
Avg 656fps
ES 10.5fps
SD 4.12fps!
From the last two revolvers the numbers turned out pretty consistent. They are all lower, much lower than what I usually shoot from all of these firearms but you could shoot a lot of these rounds through any one of the three without hurting yourself.
As for accuracy, they were all within 1" @ 12yrds from the bigger firearms and well over that from the smaller one. In the videos I intentionally dropped the hammer on an spent round just to see how I was doing with trigger control. Sorry if that bores you but I was trying to kill two birds with one stone!
I am going to take the charge up to 3.5gr of Bullseye and possibly change powders on this bullet in the near future. AA#2 and SR4756 are in the "cards" along with HP-38.
Hope this helps!