MiHec .452 - 200gn Cramer Re-Re - run

[MiHec]

Click on link below to order

Link (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=452Hp_orders&nosessionkill=1)

On page is all needed info

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

Got my order in....not missin' out on this one...again!

[Storydude]

Same here. not going to miss out on these.

Mihec, my paypal email is different than the email I used for the order. just a heads up to clear any potential confusion. :drinks:

[Mak Rov]

I got my order in too. Now the wait.

[yondering]

Miha, is there a possibility of getting a 3 or 4 sided hollow point pin set for these molds, perhaps as an extra to go with the round set? I have already bought one of your extra re-run molds, but would buy an extra set of faceted hollow point pins if they were available.

The purpose of these faceted hollow point pins would be to cause the hollow point to expand more uniformly with 4 petals, sort of like a Barnes X bullet.

[hicard]

Got my order in. Oops, I think I just ordered twice. One set of extra pins. Also am requesting payment notification to my iphone email address as I will be out of town for a month and don't want to miss payment for this.

hicard@me.com please and
hicard@the skybeam.com

[EKE]

Order in, Thanks

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

Miha, is there a possibility of getting a 3 or 4 sided hollow point pin set for these molds, perhaps as an extra to go with the round set?

This would be SWEET! I'd pay extra for such pins in addition to the standard ones.

[MiHec]

Somethink like this??

I will see tommorow
Must talk to my lathe man :-D

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

That looks pretty darn good to me!

[Springfield]

I'd like that on my upcoming 40 S&W mould from you.

[jrayborn]

Thank you!!!!

Order sent!

Jon

[Dutch4122]

Order just sent. Thanks for re-running this one Mihec!

[dragonrider]

Ordered one, should have order on the first round.
thanks

[yondering]

Somethink like this??

I will see tommorow
Must talk to my lathe man :-D

Yes, something like that. 4 instead of 6 sides may work better and be easier/cheaper to produce, but I'm just guessing on that.

I'd buy a set for my .45 mold, and for the .40 mold you have going now.

[EKE]

Do I need to go to the Group Buy Login at the bottom of the page to do this or is everything needed on the link at the top? I filled out the link page but am not sure if I need to do anything else. Thanks for the info.

[Storydude]

Miha Runs them all himself. if you filled out the form at the above link, you are good.

[EKE]

Miha Runs them all himself. if you filled out the form at the above link, you are good.

Very good, Thanks

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

As far as the HP pin having 4 or 6 sides, do you think it will require less energy to expand using the 6 sided or the 4 sided pin? I would be inclined to think the 6 sided pin would require less energy to expand, which may be better for lower velocity 45 loads. Just my 2 cents.

[yondering]

It's hard to say for sure without doing some experiments, but I think the 4 sided hollow point would open up easier. The flat sides will cause the stress to be concentrated in the corners, causing the corners to tear like an X bullet; with fewer corners, there should be more stress concentrated at each one.

With that said, the velocity required for expansion is probably much more dependent on the diameter of the hollow point. The flat sides should help it expand more evenly though. A large percentage of cast and jacketed hollow points I've recovered with round holes are expanded unevenly, more on one side or the other. Most of the hollow points with faceted or skived holes (pistol X bullets, Gold Dots, Black Talons, etc.) open up evenly even when they impact at an angle. I've never been able to try this with a cast boolit though.

[hicard]

Mihec, I think you said that you will open up the hollow point pin channels a little more so the two mould halves will close fully on this run, is this correct?

[ddeaton]

I got one on the first round and am almost ready to pull the trigger on another I liked the first so well. It is worth it just to put it back as hard as it has been to get good molds lately.

[Beau Cassidy]

I'm in . This looks like a really good mold. I like the idea of a pin with 5 or 6 sides.

[MiHec]

Mihec, I think you said that you will open up the hollow point pin channels a little more so the two mould halves will close fully on this run, is this correct?

Yes, that's correct.

[MiHec]

About hp pins:

Let's decide what to do.
Ideas?

[DAFzipper]

I would love a set of the faceted pins for the mold I have and the up coming 44/444 mold. If you make them could I order just the pins? See what you started now :)

[Storydude]

About hp pins:

Let's decide what to do.
Ideas?

I"d be happy with the round pin you normally make, with the option to get a faceted pin for additional cost.

[timbuck]

I would love a set of the faceted pins for the mold I have and the up coming 44/444 mold. If you make them could I order just the pins? See what you started now :)

If the pins are the same diameter, i would order a set for my other moulds also.
Hex looks better to me.

[RANGER RICK]

Hex

RR

[hicard]

I would also go for the round hp pin with the 5 or 6 sided hex as an option for a second set of pins.

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

I would take a hex pin.

[Mak Rov]

Miha,
In another post a hollow point design was discussed
I do think that there should be a change to the HP hole bottom. The image shows a flat, sharp shouldered bottom. Experience has shown that a round bottom hole HP is less prone to fragment as it mushrooms. The sharp corner sets up stress risers and it breaks there. In discussion with one of the expert bullet designers, he was telling me that the best HP was a .250 meplat, .180 mouth, 7 degree taper, .300 deep, with a rounded bottom. How does that compare to your design?
This sounded good to me. However, I am not familiar with the faceted HP. Is the faceted design better for expansion? I would perfer that the bullet would make a mushroom upon impact rather than fragment. Can someone educate me please?
Thanks, Ken

[Beau Cassidy]

Hex pin, please.

[Papa Foxtrot]

I'm in!

Happy dance....... :-D

[ddeaton]

Mihec, you are killing me. I signed up for another. I want the hex pins also.

[Springfield]

I'm OK with the round pins on my 45 moulds, but the hex/square would be nice on the 40 S&W.

[MiHec]

What about something like this??

Pins will fit previous molds - i will also open order page for pins
This pins will be extra option and set will be 8$ (plus 2$ shipping for those who all ready have mold)

[JesterGrin_1]

Oh my gosh what in the world lol. Okay I will bite would not the Hex style cause the BOOLIT to open up much faster than a standard round pin?

If so I could see the Hex pin for defensive pistol rounds but not sure if such a design would help with hunting?

[yondering]

What about something like this??

Pins will fit previous molds - i will also open order page for pins
This pins will be extra option and set will be 8$ (plus 2$ shipping for those who all ready have mold)

Miha, that looks pretty good, and the price is more than fair.

I notice though that the corners of the pin are rounded off at the mouth of the hollow point; it seems that to best take advantage of this design, the corners of the hex should be sharp all the way from top to bottom. Can you do this? The point of the flat sides is to cause a stress concentration (Kt) in the corners. Stress concentration in notches is highly dependent on the sharpness of the notch or corner. In case you aren't familiar with it, here are a couple discussions of stress concentrations and notch sensitivity:

http://www.utm.edu/departments/engin/lemaster/Machine%20Design/Lecture%2004.pdf

http://www.tech.plymouth.ac.uk/sme/desnotes/stressconc.htm

Also, a 4 sided rather than 6 sided hollow point should behave more consistently for our application. 4 larger petals are more likely to separate from each other (higher Kt in the corners), but being larger, are more likely to remain attached to the base of the boolit as well. Consider that as more flat sides are added to a square (6, 8, 10, 12, etc), the shape approaches a round circle, and the effect of the flat sides is diminished.

The hex sided hollow point does have the advantage of looking cooler though.

I do like the rounded tip of the pin, this should help keep the hp petals from separating.

Either way, thank you for taking on this additional concept; I plan to buy an extra set of these pins for my 45 mold and my .40 mold.

[yondering]

would not the Hex style cause the BOOLIT to open up much faster than a standard round pin?


That's part of the point, but not just to open up faster, but also more consistently and reliably. Ever seen your HP boolits expand unevenly? A hex or square hollow point should minimize that.

[Storydude]

Mark me down for an extra set of the Hex pins @ 8 bucks.

:drinks:

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

I will also take an extra set of hex pins for $8. Thanks!

[JesterGrin_1]

Thank You for the info Yondering. :)

[Tomhorn]

I placed order on your web site last week. Would also like to add extra set of hex pins.

[15bobcat]

MiHec:
I also placed order on your web site last week, and would like to add an extra set of pins.
Thanks
-Harold

[windrider919]

MiHec, I will go for whatever you send as standard, I do not need an extra set of pins. Either a set of smooth pins with rounded tip or a of set hex [or square] with rounded tip will make me happy. I will go with the majority on this for ease of production.

[slug]

Please add a set of hex pins to my order.

Many thanks.

Stew

[Papa Foxtrot]

Please add in the extra hex pins to my order also.

Love the concept!

[MiHec]

I will open a order page for extra pins

no need to hurry

First we decide style/design of the pins

4 sided, 6 sided........????

[happy7]

Mihec,

Any chance you will be offering this in a four cavity?

[MiHec]

4 cav - yes but not right now

[yondering]

Miha, here's an alternative to the hex or square sided pins, for those who use a lubrisizer:

I recieved your 45-200 re-run mold yesterday and used it for the first time, and found that the top punch you sent with it does a good job of uniforming the hollow point during the sizing/lubing operation. I found that this top punch is also usefull for opening up the hollow point on some other boolits I cast, a 330gr Lyman 45/70 boolit which I size down for 45 Colt use.

This gave me the idea; what about a hex or square sided top punch? This would work with a normal round hollow point, to re-shape it with flat sides, and would accomplish the same goal as the hex hollow point pins. It would have the added benefit of being useful for other boolits as well.

If you can make a top punch like this, those using a lubersizer shouldn't need the hex hollow point pins, but I'd buy both from you anyway.

[Springfield]

Unless you use a Star, and then it won't do me any good at all. Hell of an idea though, maybe I can retro-fit all my 45's I have cast now and see how it works.

[yondering]

Good point about the Star. See Miha, we need both!

Here's a picture of some boolits I cast and sized yesterday. The two on the left are from my Mihec 45-200 cramer mold, one with the pin reversed. The two on the right are a Lyman 45/70 330gr HP boolit. The one on the far right is as cast from the lyman mold, the left one was sized using the Mihec hollow point top punch. If this top punch had flat sides, they would have formed into the nose of these boolits perfectly.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/zthang43/molds/IMG_6768.jpg

[JesterGrin_1]

Nice pic's but I have to ask the boolits on the left look as though either the gas vents are a bit large or the mold was not all the way closed?

[Storydude]

Miha said there was a problem with the current run of molds havig larger vent lines.

[DAFzipper]

I will open a order page for extra pins

no need to hurry

First we decide style/design of the pins

4 sided, 6 sided........????


I think 4 sided would hold together better during expansion.

[JesterGrin_1]

Miha said there was a problem with the current run of molds havig larger vent lines.

Okay Thank You for the info. Sorry I just had to ask.:castmine:

[hicard]

I like Yondering's idea using a hex top punch. Wouldn't that be easier/cheaper to make? That way one could just order a second top punch. I will take the extra hex pins or top punch, whichever Mihec decides.

[windrider919]

Like I said, I will go along with the majority on the pin shape. However. My only concern now is if the rim of the HP openning is strong enough to not collapse in a bit when hitting the feed ramp. I kept looking for someone to mention it in the test reports but no one did. Would someone who already has this bullet not shoot a chambered round and eject it and see if the HP mouth is staying round. It needs to be auto fed not hand fed to really check. If the HP is denting in then the HP hole mouth needs to be slightly smaller so the hole edge is thicker n stronger. Big HP holes are good but if the bullet deforms in chambering it will not be as accurate.

[MiHec]

In my case there is minimum mark where boolit hits the ramp, but HP is not deformed.

[yondering]

Like I said, I will go along with the majority on the pin shape. However. My only concern now is if the rim of the HP openning is strong enough to not collapse in a bit when hitting the feed ramp. I kept looking for someone to mention it in the test reports but no one did. Would someone who already has this bullet not shoot a chambered round and eject it and see if the HP mouth is staying round. It needs to be auto fed not hand fed to really check. If the HP is denting in then the HP hole mouth needs to be slightly smaller so the hole edge is thicker n stronger. Big HP holes are good but if the bullet deforms in chambering it will not be as accurate.

I need to experiment with softer alloy, but accuracy of the ACWW boolits I shot yesterday was excellent in my 1911. Boolit noses were not deformed. There was a light skid mark, as expected on any cast boolit, but no denting. I cast some 50/50 ww/pure last night, and will check this on those boolits this evening.

[Down South]

I put my order in a couple days ago but I would like an extra set of pins too..

[archmaker]

I am in for an extra set of the pins, that way I will have both to do experiments with.

[windrider919]

I am reassured and if the new pins leave the same thickness HP mouth then we truly have a winner of a bullet. And that's something that I don't hear or have opportunity to say to often now days. MiHec, I sure am glad you decided to make moulds.

[Hardcast]

OK, I can't take it anymore. Tonight or in the morning, I am ordering one of these. :) Hex pins, if there is a choice.

7/4/09 -This morning I went to his website and hit the order button. It looks like he does not take payment untill the mold is ready to ship.

[yondering]

Ok, I did a little experimenting on my own with a square HP nose punch. I ground the punch out on my belt grinder, so it isn't perfect, but is good enough to experiment with.

I believe this really works to give more uniform expansion; note the two boolits below, one with a square nose and one round. The round nose expanded unevenly, but the square HP nose expanded in a nice even + or X shape. These were fired down into the milk jugs, so they impacted at an angle. Entry was near the top of the first jug, angling down toward the bottom of the third jug. Both were recovered in the third milk jug.

I also tried ACWW boolits at the same velocity, the round HP nose penetrated all 5 milk jugs and was not recovered, but the same load with the square HP opened up and was recovered in the 4th jug.

I do not believe a 6 sided hollow point would perform as well.

Also, after using the square top punch on the round HP's, I believe the best option would be to use both square hollow point pins in the mold, and a square top punch. Miha, I really hope that you can offer these as a set to go with your great molds.

I posted more pics in the mold results forum, here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?p=606191#post606191

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/zthang43/molds/IMG_2418a.jpg

[MiHec]

Nice pictures

What do you think about 5 sided HP

It's no problem - even easier to produce 4 sided- but I'm asking my self about accuracy :roll:

I will produce whatever you people decide....

[timbuck]

Nice pictures

What do you think about 5 sided HP

It's no problem - even easier to produce 4 sided- but I'm asking my self about accuracy :roll:

I will produce whatever you people decide....

I would go for a 5 or 6.
Are you still going to open a seperate thread for the pin option?
Will this be a seperate order so we can order for our other moulds??

[Tippet]

excellent! Good of you to provide testing data for this one yondering. You mentioned you don't believe a 6-sider would perform as well, what makes you say that? Obviously faceting is an improvment over round, at any rate. I'd like at leats a 4-sider, but I'd love to see the results from 5 and 6-sided pins, if anyone can help with that.

I understand you can promote greatly improved expansion by adding tapping shallow cuts in a cross centered over the HP. I wonder if that would have the same effect as the square pin.

[Brick85]

Would these extra pins fit both the .40 cal and the .45 moulds, or would one need separate extra pins for each caliber? I only ask because given the option I'd like both the round and the faceted pins for both!

[MiHec]

Would these extra pins fit both the .40 cal and the .45 moulds, or would one need separate extra pins for each caliber? I only ask because given the option I'd like both the round and the faceted pins for both!

For each mold there are different pins because of bullet lengt

[Tippet]

Any way yet of predicting when these re-runs will ship?

[yondering]

Nice pictures

What do you think about 5 sided HP

It's no problem - even easier to produce 4 sided- but I'm asking my self about accuracy :roll:

I will produce whatever you people decide....

Well, I would guess functionality of a 5 sided hollow point to be somewhere between a 4 and 6 sided one. :-D

As long as the boolit is balanced, I don't know that there would be any difference in accuracy.

I'll try to explain my reasoning why a 4 sided would be better than 6:

- Hollow point expansion is a function of hydraulic pressure in the nose cavity. The pressure forces the cavity walls outward, then backward.

- Pressure in a round hole produces even stress all the way around, assuming a straight on impact.

- Pressure in a faceted hole produces higher stress at the corners where the flat sides join.

- Assuming equal hollow point area for each shape (round, faceted), the corners of a 4-sided hole see higher stress than a 6 sided hole. (Each flat side is larger, and stress is divided over fewer corners.)

- When the corner stress exceeds the tensile strength of the lead, the individual flats separate from each other, and open up like petals on a flower.

- Higher stress concentrated in each corner means the hollow point will open at a lower velocity.

- BUT, with fewer flat sides, each side has more structural support at the base (each petal is stiffer), this limits over-expansion and fragmentation at higher velocity.

- all this combined means the square 4-sided hollow point should have a larger velocity window where it will function correctly, when compared to a 6-sided or round hollow point.

Using my reasoning above, a 3-sided hollow point would really be optimum, so that is an option as well. I made a 4 sided top punch just because it was easier for me to keep the 4 sides equal size when grinding it by hand.

[M_Phipps]

MiHec,
I entered my info in the link provided in post #1.
Is there a way I can verify it went through and confirm I am on the list?
I would also be interested in an alternate set of pins as decided by the group.
Thanks for your support.
Michael

[Bob.]

Order sent from link in first post
Interested in extra pins also
5 sided is my vote?

[hicard]

Just my 2 cents, I would like the optional pins to have 5 or 6 sides.

[yondering]

Miha, after some thought, I'd be happy with 5 sides as well. There wouldn't be any functional advantage over a 4 sided pin, but it would have a very cool unique look.

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

5-sided sounds good to me. I am game for anything, really. I just wanna get the ball rolling on this mold so we can get them castin' some boolits! :drinks:

[EKE]

I would also like a 5 sided pin along with the standard round/flat pin.

[lurch]

Just signed up for 2 moulds. When the extra pins order page comes along, I'll add those as well.

[Tippet]

what handles will I need for this mold?

[Storydude]

Lee handles.

[Tippet]

any lee handles? or the 6-cav?

[putteral]

6 cavity

[Tippet]

Thanks guys I appreciate it. I'll post in the swappin' forum, I'll trade some gas checks for some handles

[Cowboy5780]

I'll take a 2 holer with both sets of pins

[Matt_G]

When are you going to close this buy MiHec?
Just curious...

[MiHec]

I will leave it open until I finish hg 503


Here is pictures of 5 sided pins

[hicard]

Perfect!!!!!!

[Matt_G]

I'll get in on this one but I won't order until you put up the other order page for the pins.
Just for clarification:
The standard pins are round and the extra set will be five-sided, correct?

[MiHec]

I'll get in on this one but I won't order until you put up the other order page for the pins.
Just for clarification:
The standard pins are round and the extra set will be five-sided, correct?

correct

[yondering]

I will leave it open until I finish hg 503


Here is pictures of 5 sided pins

Sweet! Those look great.

Will you be making these an option for the .40 S&W mold as well? I've ordered one of those from you as well, and would like the five sided pins for it. (I know, wrong thread, sorry)

[hicard]

Yondering, you asked on the correct thread and so far, I haven't seen an answer to your question on either thread. I am curious also.

[MiHec]

Working on it......:veryconfu

[yondering]

Working on it......:veryconfu

Cool, dude, that's good enough for me. I know you must be busy! Keep up the good work!

[KODB]

Mihec,

I received the 44/444 mold today; truly outstanding looking.
I went to your web page and preordered this one; can you add a square/hex pin to that order once you get to that point or do I need to reorder when it is on the website?

Thanks,
Bob

[MiHec]

Mihec,

I received the 44/444 mold today; truly outstanding looking.
I went to your web page and preordered this one; can you add a square/hex pin to that order once you get to that point or do I need to reorder when it is on the website?

Thanks,
Bob

For pins - I will do separate order page

[grages]

I just pre ordered this one, and I will want the polygon pins as well.

[Ed K]

I just pre ordered this one, and I will want the polygon pins as well.

I also pre-ordered yesterday. Just thought I'd post here to indicate additional interest in the polygon pins (which are not pre-orderable).

[257 Shooter]

Placed an order. Interested in the extra pins also.

[Cowboy5780]

Any idea on a timeline for this mold. Im not rushing but ive never participated in a group buy and have no idea on how, what, when, etc.
Thanks

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

I think Miha is pretty overwhelmed now. Might be a while....but I am also interested in a tentative timeline... I am patient...it gets here when it gets here.

[Papa Foxtrot]

I think Miha is pretty overwhelmed now. Might be a while....but I am also interested in a tentative timeline... I am patient...it gets here when it gets here.

My Daddy had a saying, "Success can be a b*tch, son..."

[Gun-adian]

I just placed my order. I would also like the extra set of pins.

(...I hope I'm not too late!!!!!)

[Triggerhappy]

MiHec,

I ordered one of these molds and I would like the spare set of pins.

Will this mold have slightly smaller vents than the original?

Thanks,

TH

[MiHec]

MiHec,

I ordered one of these molds and I would like the spare set of pins.

Will this mold have slightly smaller vents than the original?

Thanks,

TH

Yes - smaller vents will be done on this one

[Rattlesnake Charlie]

Order placed for one mold.

I'd like an extra set of pins too, please.

[Highland Drifter]

Order placed for 1 mold. I have the original (fantastic mold), but with the improvements it's too good to pass up another one.

The pentagon pins (post 89) look good to me so I'll order them when available. besides function they will add a way cool look to the point of this boolit.

Brian

[Tippet]

bump

man I'm droolin' over this one and the 380 hp, they get a little closer every day.

[Noxi0uS]

Mihec, I placed an order for one a few days ago and I am also interested in the extra pins. Thanks a lot!

[windrider919]

How time flys, I was just checking on progress of 'my' mould and noticed the dates.

Original thread started: 06-25-2009, 12:2PM

Date I ordered: 6-29-09, post #46; 1 mould w/ std round HP pins.

8-24-09: Checking progress on MiHec's website - we are still not listed in the side bar but the #502 n others ahead of us are making good progress. Looking forward to when we are listed.

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Just curious, how are we to be notified when our moulds are done and it is time to send money? Here on Cast Boolits by PM? Or just a general announcement here on this thread? I sure don't want to miss this one and i have not heard how. Saw the MiHec mould survey but we are NOT listed in the lineup. Wonder why not?

[MiHec]

How time flys, I was just checking on progress of 'my' mould and noticed the dates.

Original thread started: 06-25-2009, 12:2PM

Date I ordered: 6-29-09, post #46; 1 mould w/ std round HP pins.

8-24-09: Checking progress on MiHec's website - we are still not listed in the side bar but the #502 n others ahead of us are making good progress. Looking forward to when we are listed.

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Just curious, how are we to be notified when our moulds are done and it is time to send money? Here on Cast Boolits by PM? Or just a general announcement here on this thread? I sure don't want to miss this one and i have not heard how. Saw the MiHec mould survey but we are NOT listed in the lineup. Wonder why not?

Molds are in production
In a day or two i will post picture of 5 sided pins

[grages]

That will be cool!

[Brick85]

So these will be done before the .40 cal moulds? Would you let me (and others) send payment for both at the same time, to make it easier?

[MiHec]

So these will be done before the .40 cal moulds? Would you let me (and others) send payment for both at the same time, to make it easier?

I will do .40 , .41 mag, .502hp and .452 HP same time (maybe few days in between)

[Noxi0uS]

OMG OMG OMG, I am waking up at night thinking about this mold. Its kinda sick if you think about it lol, My name is Fred Thomas, I am an addict...[smilie=w:

Also Mihec, I cant thank you enough for doing another run of these molds, I was lurking on these forums when the first one got started and missed the last 2 runs. I am looking forward to trying this out.

[Salmon-boy]

Ok, I THINK I remember ordering one of these moulds, but not sure..

Will you be sending PM's when ready?

[KennethF]

Mihec, I have just ordered .452 HP Carmer mould, would you verify if you received order. When will you post link to order six sided pins? Thanks.

KennethF
Orem Ut.

[MiHec]

ATTENTION!!!!

I will include 5 sided pins with all molds in this re-re.run for extra 8$.
There is no need to order them separately



For previously ordered molds (all ready in your hands) read below

For ordering extra set of 5 sided pins please click on this link (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=5sided_pins_order&nosessionkill=1)


Pins should be ready to ship next week (middle)

[pascalp]

If not too late, order placed.

[yondering]

Miha, will you be offering polygonal top punches as well? I'm really hoping for a polygonal top punch in the same style as the round HP punch you currently ship with your molds.

[MiHec]

Miha, will you be offering polygonal top punches as well? I'm really hoping for a polygonal top punch in the same style as the round HP punch you currently ship with your molds.

Sorry - no polyagonal top punch

It will be swc style so it will fit solid and HP boolit

[yondering]

Sorry - no polyagonal top punch

It will be swc style so it will fit solid and HP boolit

Bummer. I've tried that style with your 452-200 boolit and it squishes the noses and closes the hollow point a little with soft boolits. Kinda defeats the purpose of the polygonal pins.

[Tippet]

Sounds like your alloy might be a little soft

[yondering]

Sounds like your alloy might be a little soft

They're hollow point boolits. The alloy is soft on purpose. 80/20 ww/pure mix, air cooled, seems about perfect for these.

[Tippet]

80/20 ought to be hard enough the top punch wouldn't squish it.

[Tippet]

wait 80/20 ww/pure? Maybe try pure WW, the devastator for instance was designed around pure ww. Expands very well. Plenty hard enough.

[Noxi0uS]

Mihec, any news on this one? I read paypal was giving you some ****, hows that goin? They held about $500 of mine last month pending an investigation...

[yondering]

80/20 ought to be hard enough the top punch wouldn't squish it.

It's not. Have you actually tried this mold yet? I have one of the re-run molds, and have been shooting it quite a bit. I'm just here for the pins (and I was hoping, the top punch to go with them).

wait 80/20 ww/pure? Maybe try pure WW, the devastator for instance was designed around pure ww. Expands very well. Plenty hard enough.

Been there done that. ACWW works at higher velocity, but it is too brittle, the nose shears off. At lower velocity it doesn't expand much at all. See my results here, on pages 3 & 4: http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=55775&page=3

[MiHec]

Extra pins are ready to ship.....

.....but as you can see I have problems with PayPal at the moment

[Thumbtack]

I'm new here, but I just put in my order. I hope it is not too late?

[MiHec]

I'm new here, but I just put in my order. I hope it is not too late?

You are on the list :)

[hicard]

I can't find anything about extra pins in the above site?

[MiHec]

I can't find anything about extra pins in the above site?

Extra pins will be included with this run by default - so no need to order.

[archmaker]

I noticed in my post I stated "I want the extra pin".

So as not to assume anything, I meant I want a mold AND the extra pin set. :)

[MiHec]

I noticed in my post I stated "I want the extra pin".

So as not to assume anything, I meant I want a mold AND the extra pin set. :)

With this run you will get:

- mold
- one set of round pins (2hp pins)
- one set of 5 sided pins (2hp pins)

[Noxi0uS]

Mihec any word on an estimated timeline for when this one will be ready? Just curious as soon I will be out of town wonderin if its gonna get here in time for me to use it b4 I go.

[PoorGuy]

Order placed. Will I receive an email confirmation?

Thanks!!!!

Shane

[MiHec]

I have cherry, material, pins, sprue plates...

I'm waiting for a free machine almoast 3 weeks now :-x

[Triggerhappy]

Miha,

You the man!

[Maximilian225]

Extra pins are ready to ship.....

.....but as you can see I have problems with PayPal at the moment

Received my pins today.

Thanks Miha

-Max

[MiHec]

No more orders!

[Papa Foxtrot]

Miha,

Can you post a current list?

Thnx,
Papa

[grages]

I would love to know a time table on all of the Miha molds coming up, I'm in on all three (.452 - 200gn Cramer Re-Re,.40 (.402) hollow point mold, .502 HP ),and it would help me plan the money.

Miha, has anyone suggested putting the boolet dia and estimated weight by your logo?

[Storydude]

I would suggest getting funds available ASAP.

then sit on them till he's done.

I feel Miha's timetable is more acceptable than Lee's and 1000000x the product.

Don;t rush the man.

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

Immensely stoked! :redneck:

[MiHec]

I would love to know a time table on all of the Miha molds coming up, I'm in on all three (.452 - 200gn Cramer Re-Re,.40 (.402) hollow point mold, .502 HP ),and it would help me plan the money.

Miha, has anyone suggested putting the boolet dia and estimated weight by your logo?

This will be done on all next molds

[MiHec]

Most recent list

[Storydude]

Woo hoo I'm in the top 10!

[grages]

This will be done on all next molds


That is super!

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

nevermind...my bad...finally figured out how to enlarge the list to read it... I suck at computers!!! lol

[hicard]

I'm on the list 2 times, I only want one mould please.

hicard@theskybeam.com

[Tippet]

Woo hoo I'm in the top 10!

I'm #11!!!

[MiHec]

I'm on the list 2 times, I only want one mould please.

hicard@theskybeam.com


I will correct this

[Tippet]

Well I'm on there twice and I want two please

[Noxi0uS]

Miha, I just noticed something as well, I have 2 different emails on there, Fredthomas@hybridpixels.com and Frosstyx@gmail.com, please remove Fredthomas@hybridpixels.com as I only need 1 mold. Sorry I think it was from when I first registered here and accidentally made 2 accounts. Thanks. Anyone know how to get that other account deleted?

[Matt_G]

Anyone know how to get that other account deleted?

PM 45nut and he can take care of it I'm sure.

[Rattlesnake Charlie]

I'm on the list twice, only ordered one, but will take two if available.

My friends have found out how nice these Mihec molds are, and they are out on loan quite a bit.

[desteve811]

If you ordered more than intended, I will be very happy to take one off your hands.. Still kicking myself.....

[Tippet]

BTT Wow I can't believe this is finally near happening. BTW Mihec, i understand PayPal has had some issues...I'm surprised they have a problem if it's related to selling moulds. As you well know moulds are an acceptable thing on Ebay, it's not like you're selling ammo or guns. Hope that goes well for you. Have you got any other form of payment available to use?

[Tippet]

Got a PM from MiHec, his paypal is back up and running, and he also offers another another option to pay using a different company. I forgot to ask him when the moulds will be ready, and I'm not going to bother him again with such a question...has anyone else heard anything?

[MiHec]

Tomorrow I'm going to workshop....

I will setup .452 HP and .40 HP

[Rico1950]

Yahoooo

[Springfield]

I just bought more brass for my 40. Can't wait!

[John D]

Is it too late to get in on this one?

[Storydude]

Yep. but if you are close to WNY I'll have one coming soon you can borrow...

[John D]

Storydude,

Thanks for the offer. I have several 45 moulds but no HP's.

Maybe if there's enough interest, MiHec will do a re-re-re run on these.

BTW, i'm in the Utica/Rome area.

[Storydude]

I"ve told him it should be a stocked item. I"m sure he can sell as amny of these as he can produce.

[Tippet]

Yes no doubt it would be an excellent seller. I'm not aware of many HP moulds for .45, I have a devastator and I just gave away my Lee fixed-pin. The Lee was a great one for teaching myself to cast HP's, but the design wasn't all that great...I didn't see much expansion of the rounds I dug out of the dirt. It wasn essentially a roundnose with a little hole seemingly added as an afterthought. The devestator is supposed to be pretty good for expansion, but I suspect this MiHec design will blow it away esp. with the pin options. Plus the devestator is only a single cav and uses the handle-pin, I'm looking forward to the cramer-style multi-cav.

[grages]

Is it too late to get in on this one?

John,
I believe that it is normal for him to make one or two extra or maybe he sells off the persons that doesn't pay on his site. I bought the 44/444 that way, at I believe $10 more than the group buy price. Keep your eye on his store.

Shawn

[John D]

Shawn,

I'll be checking his site for any extras. Thanks for the tip!

[MiHec]

This ones are machined right now
I hope nothing goes wrong

Should be ready for shipping this weekend :roll:

[Storydude]

Miha, have you sent out the Paypal requests yet??

[windrider919]

MiHec , Did you ever get an alternate method to pay besides PayPal?

I CAN pay through them but try to boycott them because they cheated me out of money from an auction. A customer paid $600.00 (verified), I shipped and then got 20% ($120.00) credited to my account and never did recover the remainder. Dealing with them is like trying to communicate with a psychotic chimpanzee.

[MiHec]

I will send money request when I will have finished mold in my hand

Yes I found alternative for payment. Alertpay. Click on link below


WWW.ALERTPAY.COM (http://www.alertpay.com)

[Cowboy5780]

Are you not able to accept Paypal anymore MiHec?

[MiHec]

Are you not able to accept Paypal anymore MiHec?

I can accept PayPal and also Alertpay

On my web page there is only PayPal for now. As soon as possible I will implement AlertPay, too.

P.s. In the past PayPal gives me hard time so I opened up AlertPay as alternative

[Storydude]

Thanks for the heads up Miha.

Hey, my Email has changed from what I signed up with. The Paypal address is the correct address now.

[Tippet]

Cool, nearing an end to the waiting

[MiHec]

Something to look at

Bullet is cast with 5 sided pins (this is not perfect cast - but only one i have at hand)

[archmaker]

Can't wait to cast/load/shoot it, can you imagine the looks you will get at the range when you pull that out to shoot? One of a kind!

[Tippet]

that looks a little wierd

[Storydude]

Excellent!

[Noxi0uS]

That does look weird, I like it.

[Gee_Wizz01]

That looks Great! It looks like it will have 5 nice sized petals that will fold back effectively.

G

[TDC]

W O W!!!! That 5 facited HP is going to be super!! I hope producing the pins for them went well so some of us can look forward to it being included with the .502 pin package.

I don't know if this HP design has been attempted before in a Cramer.... Nice going, Miha!!

[MiHec]

In this one standard pins (round) and 5 sided are included

link (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showpost.php?p=649170&postcount=120)

[Tippet]

Has anyone rcvd a payment request yet?

[Papa Foxtrot]

Has anyone rcvd a payment request yet?

Patience - it will come.

[Tippet]

agreed. Just wanted to be sure I hadn't missed anything.

[Digger]

Besides your outstanding mold work Miha , I have to compliment you on your photography as you do seem to have it down to a science. I am on the list for both the 452 and the 402 , while waiting in anticipation I put the 452 five sided pin picture on my desktop background here on my computer at home....looks great !! Thank you ... digger

[vettebob]

If you end up with any extras I want one too. Bob

[MiHec]

Besides your outstanding mold work Miha , I have to compliment you on your photography as you do seem to have it down to a science. I am on the list for both the 452 and the 402 , while waiting in anticipation I put the 452 five sided pin picture on my desktop background here on my computer at home....looks great !! Thank you ... digger

Believe it or not - picture was taken with mobile phone - Nokia N79

[Digger]

Silly me !................guess I gotta get one of those to ............:rolleyes:

[Storydude]

Believe it or not - picture was taken with mobile phone - Nokia N79

Nokia N series kick ass. E series almost as much.:drinks:

[fredj338]

W O W!!!! That 5 facited HP is going to be super!! I hope producing the pins for them went well so some of us can look forward to it being included with the .502 pin package.

I don't know if this HP design has been attempted before in a Cramer.... Nice going, Miha!!

Erik made this one for me about 6m ago from a 230gr Lyman RN. Works great! Bullet casts about 215gr from 25-1 alloy & expands well between 850 & 900 fps.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/fredj338/45-215gr.jpg

[MiHec]

Molds are ready to ship!

I will start sending PayPal request in Friday.
I will send out 10 request at the time, so this will take few days.
This is because PayPal blocks me if I send out too many request at the same time.

Hope you understand...

[grages]

[smilie=w:

Shawn

[Tippet]

excellent

[dragonrider]

So close, [smilie=w:

[MiHec]

Something to look at

Link (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=452_cramer_german&nosessionkill=1)

[Down South]

Great pics MiHec. Can't wait to try it out.

[PoorGuy]

Hey, it's a mould with a kickstand...

http://stedron.net/images/kickstand.jpg

[Tippet]

Oh yeah, sportin' wood here!

[MiHec]

First invoices are in the email

[Tomhorn]

Payment sent. Thanks Miha.

[hicard]

Payment in the mail? I haven't received my request for payment yet. Did I miss something?

[MiHec]

Payment in the mail? I haven't received my request for payment yet. Did I miss something?

You missed this ;)


Molds are ready to ship!

I will start sending PayPal request in Friday.
I will send out 10 request at the time, so this will take few days.
This is because PayPal blocks me if I send out too many request at the same time.

Hope you understand...

[jrayborn]

Payment sent, and thank you!!

Jon

[Tippet]

Miha my friend, I'm confused. I just got 3 invoices, one for a single mould and two more for two moulds each. Does that mean I can get 5 moulds? LOL I'll make payment tomorrow AM as soon as my bank opens and I can transfer the $$ into the account I use for PayPal.

[MiHec]

Miha my friend, I'm confused. I just got 3 invoices, one for a single mould and two more for two moulds each. Does that mean I can get 5 moulds? LOL I'll make payment tomorrow AM as soon as my bank opens and I can transfer the $$ into the account I use for PayPal.

Hmmm.....

One invoice for 2 molds is canceled - that was my mistake - i charged too little for shipment, so I canceled this invoice.

You can get three molds - you have 3 orders on my list.
If this is not OK please let me know and I will fix this.

[Cowboy5780]

Was wondering how far down the list you are on invoices Miha?

[Tippet]

Hmmm.....

One invoice for 2 molds is canceled - that was my mistake - i charged too little for shipment, so I canceled this invoice.

You can get three molds - you have 3 orders on my list.
If this is not OK please let me know and I will fix this.

PM sent and thanks Miha, I got your reply. Good news for people waiting in the wings, there's one more mould available!

[MiHec]

Was wondering how far down the list you are on invoices Miha?

Just started....

first 15

[hicard]

Got my invoice, payment sent pay pal. Thanks so much MiHec. I paid through pay pal in us dollars two days ago and now I am asked to pay in Euro dollars and I did. I think I paid twice. Could you check this out Mihec? Got a refund on the second purchase so there is an extra mould available guys.

[Mak Rov]

I got my invoice too, payment sent by pay pal.
Thanks MiHec.

[dragonrider]

Miha
I am getting an error usiing the paypal link you provided. Is the link correct, ???

[windrider919]

I got my invoice for one mould and extra pins too, payment sent by PayPal.

Thanks MiHec, really looking forward to this one!:smile:

:smile:

:smile:

[Bob.]

$ sent

Thanks!

Bob.

[Tippet]

Paid a couple hours ago, thanks Miha

[dragonrider]

Paid via paypal minuits ago. now waiting,...............still waiting........................................... .................................................. ............and waiting :bigsmyl2:

[sleeper1428]

Invoice arrived a few minutes ago - payment sent via PayPal. Thanks so much MiHec. Looking forward to this getting this mould as well as the 40cal mould which should also be on its way.

sleeper1428

[lurch]

Payment sent.

PM coming on preferred shipping address.

[John D]

I missed out on this one . If there is an extra one, I will take it.

[Down South]

Got the invoice just now when I checked my email. Payment sent. Thanks Miha for getting my invoice to me today since I'll be leaving on a hunting trip to Il. early in the morning and will be without computer access for about a week.

Thanks, Sam Wactor

[Salmon-boy]

WOOHOO! Payment sent. Waiting with bait for breath on this one!

Thanks Miha!

[Gun-adian]

Payment sent. This is gonna be great!!!!!

[grages]

Payment sent

Shawn

[Cowboy5780]

Payment sent thanks again Miha

[Gee_Wizz01]

Pay Pal sent !

Thanks Miha

Gary

[Hardcast]

No invoice yet. I don't know whether to be concerned or maybe it's taking a good while to go through the list of buyers.


Added: After reviewing post 198, I guess I should not be concerned.

[Ed K]

Payment sent - Thanks Miha

Paypal grabbed about 2.5% for the USD - Euro conversion. Just an FYI to all as I know payment options are being explored.

Looking forward to the mold!

[Bob J]

Payment sent! Thanks!

[MiHec]

No invoice yet. I don't know whether to be concerned or maybe it's taking a good while to go through the list of buyers.


Added: After reviewing post 198, I guess I should not be concerned.

In a day or two you will all have invoices.
As I was saying, this is because of PayPal (if I send to many invoices at one time - they block me)

[257 Shooter]

Payment Sent.

[pascalp]

PayPal Sent.
Thanks

[Digger]

Payment sent , thank you Miha...your work is extraordinary and am enjoying the 402 I just received , lubing up the first batch as we speak,,,digger

[OBXPilgrim]

Just got my mold in the mail today - dang! looks great!!, the pot's heating as I write this!!

Oh, this is gonna be fantastic!!





















:kidding:



GEEZ!, you'd think we're a bunch of 5 year olds on the 23th of December!!


edit: 11/12/09 6:53pm - dang, talk about killin' a thread!! Sorry guys I was just pokin' a little fun. Didn't mean to kill it out.

[gefiltephish]

Payment sent last night. Can't wait!

[Salmon-boy]

OBXPilgrim, I take serious offense. I am NOT 5 yrs old. I'm 6! Just ask my wife..

[hicard]

Mihec, I don't understand, I already paid for 2 moulds and you supposedly refunded one of the payments as the second order was by mistake. Now I just received two more invoices to pay again today. What is going on? I don't know what to do, I don't want to miss out on this mould and thought one was about to be delivered this week.

[Brick85]

Paid yesterday, after causing MiHec a bit of confusion. Thanks!

[MiHec]

Mihec, I don't understand, I already paid for 2 moulds and you supposedly refunded one of the payments as the second order was by mistake. Now I just received two more invoices to pay again today. What is going on? I don't know what to do, I don't want to miss out on this mould and thought one was about to be delivered this week.

Some of you double ordered.
If you are getting invoices and you all ready paid - just let me know and I will fix it (cancel invoice).

[Tippet]

Got mine today M, thanks very much
I'm as excited as a puppy with two peckers

Any idea when you'll get to the .380 HP moulds?

[John D]

MiHec,

If you end up with any extras, PM me and i will
take one. Thanks

[Storydude]

Miha, Payment sent. Sorry about the delay on that...Paypal was playing games with my account.

[MiHec]

Miha, Payment sent. Sorry about the delay on that...Paypal was playing games with my account.

I know your pain.... :smile:

[Hardcast]

11/11/09 In a day or two you will all have invoices.
As I was saying, this is because of PayPal (if I send to many invoices at one time - they block me)

Still no invoice here. Could it be because I do not have a Paypal account?

[jrayborn]

Got mine today, thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!