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insanelupus
06-11-2009, 10:59 PM
I cast up some Lyman 375296 the other night. Only after I had 75 or so made did I wise up and measure them. It had not been a good night. One of my other moulds was/is giving me fits (a SC 3589, the "Holy Grail" bullet which won't cast a bullet worth a darn, another thread) and when I measured the 375296s, they were coming out at .3775 or so. My bore measures right at .377 in the Marlin I'm casting for and I would really prefer to have them cast up to around .378 at least.

In disgust, I chunked them all back in the pot and called it a night. Cleaned up the area and went out and split wood until dark. Looking back, I should have kept a few to test fire. The bore in the .38-55 is a 10 on a 1-10 scale and might handle those okay.

At any rate, I've read, read, and re-read the posts Beagle has made on beagling a mold. Are there any hints, tips, tricks, or advice y'all can give me, aside from Beagle's main contribution that will help out? I also wonder, how tough is that HVAC tape to clean off the mould when it cools? Will there be a forever baked on sticky residue to contend with or does it clean right up?

If beagling doesn't work, I'm going to just try and order a mould to my specifications from Dan at Mountain Moulds. I dearly wish someone produced a factory standard 265 grain, as cast from wheel weights .380", flat nosed, gas checked mould! There are several plain based versions, but with velocities over 1600 (goal is 1750-1800 fps) I'd think there would be a definate desire for a gas checked version, especially with all those Marlin oversized .38-55 bores floating around!

dromia
06-12-2009, 12:24 AM
No secrets to Beagling, I've found just do as instructed and it works champion.

I use acetone for cleaning the mould of any stickiness if I remove the tape.

You might also want to consider Veral at LBT if you want a mould made.

Then there's also the possibility that Swede or Miha could do one as a GB, so you could fly a kite there.

I'll be surprised if Beagling doesn't give you what you want though.

Bret4207
06-12-2009, 04:25 AM
Provided the surface you stick the HVAC tape to is clean to start with it stays puts pretty good. The gum cleans right off with solvent as Dromia said.

Someday I gotta get me a 38/55, and a 32/40, and a 35-30/30 and a.............

462
06-12-2009, 07:24 AM
I'm still new to casting, but shouldn't you have waited a day or two before measuring, to allow the boolit to completely cool and settle on its size?

Beagling has worked for me, and yes, acetone will clean things up.

beagle
06-12-2009, 12:14 PM
I've also had good luck cutting the adhesive with denatured alcahol. Cleans right up. Won't hurt to give it a try. The nice part about this is you don't have achance to mess up a mould. A little elbow grease and you're back to where you started if you don't like it./beagle

dubber123
06-12-2009, 12:29 PM
If you only need .0005" or a little bigger, I would lap that thing in a heartbeat. Just the amazing change in how they drop and appear makes me want to lap all of mine. The first .001" comes out pretty fast, as it's mostly just cleaning up the tooling marks.

hyoder
06-12-2009, 06:27 PM
If I'm reading your post correctly you measured the boolits very shortly after casting.
If so, you were not getting a good measurement. You need to let the boolits sit for a couple of days befor measuring and/sizing.

HeavyMetal
06-12-2009, 07:07 PM
If your using plain ww metal a little tin may also net you the slight amount of diameter you need plus get better fillout to boot.

I'd start with 2% of you pot capacity and cast 40 or 50 then inspect. I would also quench cast this should get them up to "permant" size pretty quick!

The real question is are we talking clip on or stick on WW metal? If you got stick on's your gonna need some antimony in that metal. Tin will just make them smooth!

insanelupus
06-12-2009, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

The alloy I'm using is 100% clip on wheel weights. I'm not sure how much girth a bullet gains over a few days, since I'm wanting to size to .378, next time I may cast some with and without beagling and compare. I figure one layer of HVAC tape on one mould half will net me the gain I desire. Thanks again!