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oldhickory
06-09-2009, 07:01 AM
I picked one of these little carbines up some years ago cheap, probably the reason it was cheap is because it shoots akin to a 12ga buckshot load at 25yds no matter what ammo is used.
Numrich has replacement barrels to fit Winchester 1890-1906&M62A rifles. Question is...Will one of these fit a Rossi copy?
Over all it would be a handy little rifle...IF I could just make it shoot.
Bret4207
06-09-2009, 08:07 AM
I have no idea if it would fit. Another option is relining the barrel, should cost about the same and every relined 22 I've owned has been a tack driver. I'm sure you cleaned that Rossi real well and checked the muzzle?
Junior1942
06-09-2009, 08:15 AM
I'm betting cleaning rod wear at the muzzle. If so, hacksaw it off.
jlchucker
06-09-2009, 08:50 AM
What Junior says. Years ago I had one of those Rossi's (pre-lawyersafety) and it was a tackdriver and fun to shoot. Thinking I'd rather have an American pump rifle I traded it away on a new Remington pump 22. It was a bit better made finishwise, but had an ugly semi-monte carlo hump on the stock. That made it uncomfortable for an ironsighter like me to get a decent sight picture. Also, the forearm configuration was such that unless you extended your arm way out on it you'd pinch your hand when you pumped it. I swapped the Remmie to a guy who built me some furniture. He ended up trading it some years later. I think you may have a fine shooting 22 if your problem is the rod wear as Junior thinks. Know a machinist? A lathe will make a much more square cut if you take a quarteri-inch or so off the barrel and recrown it.
docone31
06-09-2009, 09:08 AM
Before you go through the hassle of swapping barrels, or relineing, try this.
Get several 1" grinding balls. They are grit on a stick, like a lollipop. Chuck it in either a large hand drill, or drill press.
Get it spinning, and push the muzzle onto it. Wobble the muzzle untill it is even and has cut below the cleaning rod wear, or whatever defect might be in the muzzle.
Get several brass carriage bolts. Smear, coarse lapping compound on the carriage bolt, and lap. The reasons for getting several of each grinding bit, in case of uneven wear.
With the coarse lapping compound, grind out the coarse gouges made by the lollipop. When the muzzle is visibly smooth, switch compounds. Get another carriage bolt of the same size and smear fine lapping compound on it. Wobble this untill the muzzle shines like a mirror.
I pack the bore with beeswax before I begin with the coarse lollipop. It helps lube, and keeps fileings out of the bore.
It actually goes pretty quickly. It seems to be self centering. I have been able to make worn out milsurp muzzles clean again this way. Saves the hassle of headspaceing.
The beeswax comes right out with a cleaning rod. Particles stick to the wax if you have to pull it out of the muzzle end.
Calamity Jake
06-09-2009, 09:49 AM
"Numrich has replacement barrels to fit Winchester 1890-1906&M62A rifles. Question is...Will one of these fit a Rossi copy?"
NO, the rossi has metric threads, the Win. has standard SAE threads
oldhickory
06-09-2009, 10:01 AM
Thanks Doc, the way it shoots now I don't feel as though I have much to loose...It can only get better.
oldhickory
06-09-2009, 10:05 AM
"Numrich has replacement barrels to fit Winchester 1890-1906&M62A rifles. Question is...Will one of these fit a Rossi copy?"
NO, the rossi has metric threads, the Win. has standard SAE threads
They're the same barrel for all 3 Winchester models, they're not threaded, being a .22, rather they're pinned in place. Either way though, you probably have a point with the metric thing, I hadn't thought of that.
Throckmorton
06-09-2009, 10:18 AM
Since a lot of .22's are ammo picky,have you tried different ammo?
We have to of the older/original Rossi's and they both shoot good.
docone31
06-09-2009, 10:25 AM
Being a muzzle cleaner, a pump gun, there will be muzzle nicks. A .22 is picky being real small.
I have cleaned the muzzles on a few "beaters" and turned them into sweethearts at the range. I left the cleaned muzzle white and it looked kinda neat.
Try it, you have nothing to lose. Worse come to worse, you can reline it, which works well, or remuzzle it.
TAWILDCATT
06-09-2009, 01:38 PM
if the win barrel is sae as long as it is big enuf to turn to fit who cares.order it if its to far out send it back.I had a rossi and the barrel was kaput,I thought about
getting a win barrel but the owner did not want to pay.so I did not.:coffee:[smilie=1:
Mk42gunner
06-09-2009, 02:12 PM
I had one of those about twenty years ago; it had a 16 inch barrel IIRC, so I definately wouldn't cut any off (legalities). It was a fun gun to plink with and hose down the impact area; no disconnecter, hold the trigger and pump. Accurate it was NOT. I had a 2nd model Woodsman and a Frontier Scout that would both out group it.
From an accuracy standpoint I would take Bret's advice and reline the barrel. From an inquiring minds want to know standpoint- if the barrels are indeed pinned you could use a winchester barrel by turning the shank down to fit the receiver. If the Winchester shank is too small why couldn't you make a sleeve, sort of a double slip fit?
Robert
kywoodwrkr
06-09-2009, 03:19 PM
I thought that the barrels for '90 and '06s were threaded?
I have/had an old '06 barrel and it is threaded.
?? Maybe 'engineered'?
Bret4207
06-09-2009, 06:50 PM
I'm betting cleaning rod wear at the muzzle. If so, hacksaw it off.
Don't cut it off! Counter bore it.
oldhickory
06-10-2009, 05:01 AM
Yes, it is one of the little 16 inchers, so there's no room to trim even a little bit.
HeavyMetal
06-10-2009, 09:06 AM
I'll go along with checking the muzzle with a strong magnifiying glass.
Any imperfections here will make groups larger. Doesn't have to be nicks or dents it could simply be "lapped" of center!
I like the Look of the Little Rossi pump gun just never bought one. They offer the rifle version in an octagon barrel but not the carbine.
If the barrel can't be cured with a re crown your options are reline or re barrel. If it was mine I think I'd opt for a 18 inch octagon barrel as a replacement.
My guess is your going to find it's been "over cleaned" a common problem with 22's.
Junior1942
06-10-2009, 09:39 AM
People think an aluminum cleaning rod is harmless to a steel rifle barrel. But the aluminum rod is coated with aluminum oxide, which is sometimes used as the abrasive in sandpaper. If you use one to clean from the muzzle and don't use something as simple as a plastic drinking straw to protect the muzzle from the rod, the first inch of your barrel will eventually have no rifling.
I never go pawn shopping for rifles without a jeweler's loupe in my pocket. Literally 2/3 of used, pawn shop lever action and pump rifles over 30 years of age have worn muzzles due to aluminum cleaning rods.
oldhickory
06-10-2009, 10:39 AM
You're right on target there, Junior! My favorite rod, (when I clean a .22) is a .17 Dewy using a bronze brush to retain the patch.
I really would like a 24" octagon barrel on it rather than the 16" round one on it now. Wouldn't mind restocking it with gen-u-ine walnut also, I have no clue as to what the wood they use, but it isn't very attractive at all. I'm going to check the muzzle and try and find shank diameters, etc. for this little rascal to see if the replacement barrel Numrich sells will work.
calkar
07-08-2009, 11:21 PM
I helped out a father and his boys a few weeks ago at the range. They had a very poorly made rossi carbine. It would not lock up properly at the end of the pump stroke and jammed every other shot. All of the sharp edges were buffed away from the receiver and it was a tacky pink/purple color. If rossi is putting them out that fast you need to check everything. like bore size and headspace. Are your cases bulging anywhere?
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