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David R
03-11-2006, 12:57 PM
I loaded 22.5 grains of 2400 and 22.6 of WC820. Went to the range today because it was so nice. Crony'ed the loads.

8" Ruger Super Red hawk, 245 grain cast with gas check. WW mag primers.

22.5 2400 AV 1373 SD 40

22.6 WC820 AV 1389. SD 25

I don't recall ES exactly, but it was lower for the WC820.

Dale53
03-11-2006, 06:51 PM
I have been using 23.0 grs of WC 820 under a Keith 240 gr cast bullet for years. However, my lot of WC 820 is probably a bit slower than yours. I get 1200 with 23.0 grs and 1300 fps with 24.0 grs. At any rate, I have been a fan ever since I discovered surplus powder many years ago. I also found that the deer don't know the difference between 1200 and 1300 fps. :razz:

Dale53

David R
03-11-2006, 08:06 PM
I was amazed at how close it compared to the 2400. It may be "old" 2400, the can says something like 1991 on it. I got 8 lbs for free. Its almost gone and I have been shooting A LOT more in the last year so I am glad to find an in expensive replacment.

David

JerryW
03-11-2006, 09:08 PM
Where can you buy this powder? Is this pulled from cases? Thank you. JerryW

TCLouis
03-12-2006, 09:09 AM
www.gibrass.com

Pat McDonnald and HiTech also supply milsurp powders, but I can't easily access the web site info (bellsouth.net ain't friendly for doing things easily).

I have the older slower WC820 also, and it makes Lee's heavy 44 bullet go in one hole at 50 yards.

Hope the new Ranch Dog bullet will perform equally well!

xND
03-13-2006, 04:28 PM
Has anyone tried WC-820in SAA level loads with heavy (300 ( in .45 Colt? All the loads I find are anti-tank loads for Rugers and such; all I'm looking for are 700-800 fps and I'd like to stay away from the expensive canister powders.
Thans,

xND

Dale53
03-13-2006, 08:02 PM
I would not be much interested in using WC 820 in a Colt or Colt clone. It is a slow burning powder that is happiest at .44 mag pressures. The Colt is not built for this. Unique is a powder that I think of when I think of .45 Colt or .44 Special. I do NOT hot rod Colt single actions. That is what Rugers are for. I have several S&W .44 specials and also shoot them with "medium" loads. Again, if I want HEAVY loads, then the .45 Colt Ruger or .44 magnums are the place for that.

FWIW
Dale53

MT Gianni
03-13-2006, 08:47 PM
820 in my 624 44 spl left lots of unburned powder and had poor ignition. My feeling on the colts is medium weight boolits [240-275 gr] at no more than mid pressure loads. Gianni.

Junior1942
03-13-2006, 09:01 PM
What Dale53 said. WC820 needs pressure.

TCLouis
03-13-2006, 11:40 PM
the 105 , 107 or the FAST batch of WC820 from Jeff Bartlett.

The FAST batch is HS7 speed, and the 105 is like AA#5 speed.

WC820 slower batches are GREAT for what they are GREAT for and so so or worse for most other uses.

Bear4570
03-19-2006, 06:03 PM
Just got back from the range, loaded up 19 gr wc820(p) under a 300 gr tc lead bullet in my 7.5 Ruger Redhawk, chronographed high 1277-low 1244 out of 24 shots. 2" at 50 yards, I am a happy camper.

454PB
03-19-2006, 06:22 PM
Love that WC 820, but I use cross reference to AAC #9. I bought 32 pounds to feed my .454 Casulls, but found that it works better in my .44's and 357's. It works in .454 with lighter boolits, but Lil'Gun and H-110 are better for heavy weights.

RayinNH
03-19-2006, 10:59 PM
With WC820 in the .44 Special I use 11.7 grains with an NEI 250gr. Keith boolit. In my SBH with 4 5/8 tube, accuracy is good with very little unburned powder.Speed, I estimate, is around 900 fps...Ray