.502 HP Group Buy Starts Here

[69daytona]

Ok guys this is the sign up page for the .502HP/FP Cramer mold which will be made of brass with stainless steel pins this will be a 2 cavity mold.
The pictures below are for the final design and the other is for the extra pin design. I am going with a larger pin for the extra because if its not what you would like there is enough material to have it shaped to what you want, Cant do that if its made to small.
The new pin dimensions will be .275 wide going down .100 for the straight wall with a total depth of .300, same depth as the final design mold.
I am going to contact MiHec about making a nose punch for this also, might add a little more to the cost but worth it.
The cost is 95 + 15 for shipping, the Extra pins will be 8 buck more. I will let you know if we can get a nose punch made and what it would cost.
This is a great deal for a 2 in one mold or with the extra pins a 3 in one mold.
Please sign up here to make it eaiser to keep track for MiHec and myself.
Thanks again for all your input on this bullet. I cant wait to shoot it.

[69daytona]

69 Daytona is in for 2 with the extra pins.
95662

[happy7]

I am in for one with extra pin set.

[TDC]

TDC is in for 1 with the extra pins.... Good job, guys!!

[Lloyd Smale]

Ill take one with the extra pins.

[twocool4u]

I am good for one with the extra pins. Two would be better, but I will have to make due with one...

[hicard]

I'll take one with extra pins.

[Clyde]

I will take one with all pin options.

[15bobcat]

15bobcat is in for 1 with the extra pins.
12586

[clong]

Put me down for one with the extra pins

[happy7]

Excellent. That's ten!!!!

[2Sharp]

I am in for one with extra pins.

bj

[wilddog45]

I will take one with x-tra pins

[Porterhouse]

I'm in for 2 with extra pins.

[johnch]

I am in for 1 wit a extra set of pins

John

[stubshaft]

I was going to sell my .500 but you convinced me that I need another mould.

Put me down for 1 with extra pins.

96744

[69daytona]

I was looking at MiHec's web page and all of his molds will come with a top punch so no need to go looking for one. I havent heard back from him on a time frame for getiing it done once the GB is closed.
Will post anything I hear when I find out.

[stubshaft]

Not that it matters but what weight are you looking at it coming in at?

[69daytona]

383gr for the cone shaped HP, 373 for the wide HP.

[TDC]

69daytona,

Are we still holding to the end of June for the close date? Have you heard anything from MiHec about resolving his banking woes or an approximate production schedule? Just curious and gettin' excited for this mould.....

[MiHec]

Just looking at it

[smilie=1:

[69daytona]

I will be drooling on it when your done and its in my hands. cant wait to get my .45 HP cramer mold from you.

[MDF99]

Would it be possible with the same tooling to get this mould in 0.512" for the Linebaugh? I'd be in for one if it didn't weigh much over 450 grains or so.

[MiHec]

Would it be possible with the same tooling to get this mould in 0.512" for the Linebaugh? I'd be in for one if it didn't weigh much over 450 grains or so.

Can be done in the same profile with the same HP pins but no gas check


P.s. Can someone send me 5 or 10 gas checks for this one??

[TDC]

MiHec,

By "this one" did you mean the .512 or the .502? If you meant the .502 I can send you 10 Gator Cas Checks. Just PM me your address and I'll mail them to you today...:drinks:

TDC

[MiHec]

MiHec,

By "this one" did you mean the .512 or the .502? If you meant the .502 I can send you 10 Gator Cas Checks. Just PM me your address and I'll mail them to you today...:drinks:

TDC

I have in mind 502 gas checks

[TDC]

I have in mind 502 gas checks

They are on there way.... I'm sending Gators if anyone else would like to send Miha Hornady's....:drinks:

[69daytona]

Miha, PM me your address and I will send you some hornady gas checks for the .502.
By the way how is the #503 44 coming along?

[MiHec]

Long and short pins

Is this ok??
Of course they will come in pairs - two long pins and two short pins

[stubshaft]

Looks GREAT to me.

[69daytona]

Looks good to me too. The longer one will give lots of room for reshaping if anyone wants too.

[happy7]

It looks good. What is the diameter of the pin at the base on the deep one? This is a 50 cal bullet so I want to make sure the hollowpoint cavity is wide enough at the mouth.

[TDC]

You got it right, Miha!!!

IMHO, this mold is sure to become a .50 classic that will revitalize interest in the S&W 500..... Anyone "sitting on the fence" with this GP had better get on board soon.....

I hope we can receive a lot of reports back from the people who buy this mold regarding its accuracy, controllability, and hunting performance.... I believe every category is going to be outstanding!

[wilddog45]

Miha, Like someone stated in a previos post, you should stamp your molds with your logo as they will surely appreciate in value.

[69daytona]

The longer pin will be .275 at the opening and .400 deep with .100 of that being the straight wall, that way it could be massaged into most any shape the buyer wants. I cant wait to shoot this one out of my 4" and 10 1/2".

[RANGER RICK]

I am in for one with the extra pins .

RR

[happy7]

Those dimensions sound really good. Can't wait to see how it shoots. I am so glad to see Miha has us on the drawing board.

[TDC]

I hope I'm not out of line here, but ya know, this would probably a good time to identify what guns and barrel lengths these bullets are going to be fired from while many interested people are focused on 69daytona's and Miha's .502 creation. I know 69daytona has both a 4 inch and a 10.5 500 and my own is a 6.5 500. There are a couple of custom guns in the mix. How about the rest of you guys?

How many of us own or have access to a chronograph? We all know handloading info for the 500 leaves a lot to be desired. It would be great to form a network of people to provide input for the development of this boolit and its potential loads.

It's nice to see that Ranger Rick has joined the list of future owners as his name is becoming legendary to newbies like myself for the 500. Lots of enthusiasm for this new mold and its recognized versatility. I hope everyone will want to contribute what they learn later....

[happy7]

I also have a 10.5 inch. We will definitely have to start a thread in the results section and I too hope a lot of people will contribute. I do have a chronograph.

[69daytona]

I have a chronograph too so we should get some good info between us all, problem is getting different powders to try. I have 8lbs of H110 and a little lilgun.

[RANGER RICK]

I am looking forward to doing some work ups on this bullet , chronograph on stand by and ready to gather data !!
I will use a S&W PC 10.5, S&W 4", 500 Handi Rifle and a Bolt action Rifle chambered in the 500 Cyrus CCM ..

Thanks TDC for the vote of confidence !!!!

RR

[69daytona]

Its a big vote of confidance having Ranger Rick want to buy this mold, He make the best .50 bullets I have shot from my guns.
Thanks Rick.
When I get back from seeing my new Grandson back in Mississippi I need to place another order for your 400grSP and some more 600gr. those are the two that shoot the best out of both the 4" and the PC 10 1/2".
If you like big bullets for you 500 Ranger Rick is the man to go to, you wont be dissappointed.

[69daytona]

For those of us waiting I just wanted to let you know I have one of Miha's Cramer molds, I ordered the 200gr HP/FP and the quality is second to none. I only had a little time to cast a few so after lubing the pins and spaying it down with brake cleaner, I cast about 10 throw aways to get the mold up to temp and then it was casting perfect bullets, If the .502 is this good there will be a lot of happy people here.
Thanks Miha!!!

[ragingboy]

I am in for one with extra pin set.

[TDC]

I'm thinking about ordering a third set of pins so I can have a smaller hollow point size option to go along with the other two larger ones. I'd like something similar to the one shown in 69daytona's prior threads post #108.

It would seem that these pins themselves would be somewhat universal in size and could even be applicable to other caliber Cramer type bullet moulds.

If Miha could include them I'd be in for a third set of pins -- either Miha machined or be provided one of the larger already designed styles I could have re-machined down to a smaller HP size here.

I'm especially excited to experiment with alloys and expansion with this boolit. I believe the smaller HP would give a full range of hollow point sizes to experiment with...

[frank505]

I am ignorant of a group buy, how do I get in and purchase one of these?

[obssd1958]

Is this group buy still open? If so, I think I'll have to have one of these moulds, along with the extra pins.
Unlike what appears to be the most common future for boolits from these moulds, (use in the 500 S&W), I am hoping I can get them to work in an AutoMag V, in .50AE! :Fire:

Don
:castmine:

[TDC]

I am ignorant of a group buy, how do I get in and purchase one of these?

frank505,

I believe you will need to commit your sincere desire to have one of these molds on this thread. You will be notified when you need to send your money to the mold maker (MiHec). A production date hasn't been determined yet so you will have to wait along with the rest of this group until MiHec is able to produce them. Hopefully we'll be on his production list shortly.

The price will be $95 for the mould, $15 for shipping, and $8 for the additional pins (which will be required).

Is this group buy still open? If so, I think I'll have to have one of these moulds, along with the extra pins.
Unlike what appears to be the most common future for boolits from these moulds, (use in the 500 S&W), I am hoping I can get them to work in an AutoMag V, in .50AE! :Fire:

Don,

:castmine:

Don,

I believe you can still join in with this group buy! Someone please correct me if I'm wrong...... Best to make a firm commitment on this thread now to assure you're in. This should be a great boolit for the AutoMag, IMHO!

[obssd1958]

Let me correct my previous post, so there is no confusion:

Is this group buy still open? If so, I am in for one of these moulds, along with the extra pins.


My wife keeps saying I should be committed, and now I am!! :drinks:

Don

[frank505]

I will purchase one of these molds and send a check for the amount specified as soon as I am told to do so.

[69daytona]

This group buy is still open until MiHec starts ordering the metal. He will let us know when and where to send the money. It will be paypal and the bill will be sent in euros.
As soon as he gets the #503 44 mag done which I belive he has started on he will be working on this one.

[hicard]

Miha, if you are thinking about the 5 sided hex hp pin option on this one also, I would go for it instead of the deeper hp pin. Or even in addition to the two other pins.

[Bob J]

This looks great..... In for one with an extra pin set...;)

[wilddog45]

Miha, is this mold cherried yet? Just wondering.

[Bob J]

I have an 500 with an 8 3/8 barrel and a Chrony and would be glad to contribute.....:wink:

I hope I'm not out of line here, but ya know, this would probably a good time to identify what guns and barrel lengths these bullets are going to be fired from while many interested people are focused on 69daytona's and Miha's .502 creation. I know 69daytona has both a 4 inch and a 10.5 500 and my own is a 6.5 500. There are a couple of custom guns in the mix. How about the rest of you guys?

How many of us own or have access to a chronograph? We all know handloading info for the 500 leaves a lot to be desired. It would be great to form a network of people to provide input for the development of this boolit and its potential loads.

It's nice to see that Ranger Rick has joined the list of future owners as his name is becoming legendary to newbies like myself for the 500. Lots of enthusiasm for this new mold and its recognized versatility. I hope everyone will want to contribute what they learn later....

[MiHec]

Miha, is this mold cherried yet? Just wondering.

Not yet..

Changes???

[2Sharp]

I would also be in for an extra set of 5 sided hex pins if they are possible to get.

bj

[wilddog45]

I guess i'm just anxious for this to start comming to reality.

[TDC]

Not yet..

Changes???

Miha,

We obviously have many dedicated people signed on to have one of your moulds for this caliber. This boolit has so much material on its nose area that I believe it begs to have a variety of HP pin sizes we could experiment with.

I for one would be interested in having up to 4 different styles of reversible pin pairs. That would enable experimentation with several different alloys and HP sizes for this boolit. So if you have some HP ideas you'd like to try - consider me a buyer.

In my humble opinion, this boolit has all the potential to become a true "classic and legend" in the mould world, especially if we have a variety of pin choices offered with it. I'd have to say at this point I've never been "goofy" about having a boolit mould -- but I am about this one... Like others, I can't wait to put this one to use.....

Terry

[RANGER RICK]

miha,

we obviously have many dedicated people signed on to have one of your moulds for this caliber. This boolit has so much material on its nose area that i believe it begs to have a variety of hp pin sizes we could experiment with.

I for one would be interested in having up to 4 different styles of reversible pin pairs. That would enable experimentation with several different alloys and hp sizes for this boolit. So if you have some hp ideas you'd like to try - consider me a buyer.

In my humble opinion, this boolit has all the potential to become a true "classic and legend" in the mould world, especially if we have a variety of pin choices offered with it. I'd have to say at this point i've never been "goofy" about having a boolit mould -- but i am about this one... Like others, i can't wait to put this one to use.....

Terry


Plus 1

RR

[happy7]

Also, it has the potential to be driven anywhere from 600 fps to 1600fps or more so another reason to have a choice of pin sizes.

[69daytona]

I have sent Miha the design for a smaller pin size that TDC is interested in, it will be .175 at the top and .300 deep with a slight round bottom, and the big deep pin has been revised to Miha's 5 sided pin still .375 at the widest and .350 deep.
No changes to the bullet design have been made just the pins and an extra set or Miha if your reading this how about a double sided HP pin with the 5 sided and the small HP pin on one pin?

[wilddog45]

The double sided pin idea sounds good if its doable.

[TDC]

This is the design of the small HP 69daytona is referring to. The smaller HP size is defined in orange on the right. It should provide thicker walls that would control expansion and deeper penetration at higher velocities as mentioned by happy7.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/tdcorp/50Bulletsugest2.jpg

This is simply a proposal to MiHec for an additional optional extra cost pin set. If he would be willing to offer this pin design it would be in addition to the two mandatory pin sets already proposed. hicard's suggestion of a five faceted HP has already been sent forward to MiHec by 69daytona and what a super idea it is!!

I had intended to create my own smaller HP pins by modifying a larger set already planned. If enough others are interested in a third or fourth HP pin set option maybe we could have Miha make them for us. The cost is minimal and the added versatility and hunting benefit would be measurable..... but I believe it should be optional rather than mandatory and leave the original GP as proposed to help expedite its creation. We all want it as soon as we can get it.....

I expect a larger .502 mould will be offered later for a heavier boolit. I know I'm already thinking about one weighing 450 to 500 grains. If it's a MiHec mould in the "Cramer" style there is no reason these pins couldn't be applicable for its use also, making that mould highly versatile and irresistible to most knowledgeable 500 S&W owners too.

It's all really up to Miha guys... but what this mould is and can be is something many of us have only dreamed about... a large .502 "Cramer" style mould with pin options to create three or four different HP sizes.... in addition its a solid nose...:drinks:

[2Sharp]

How exciting this is. I'm in for a complete set of pins.

bj

[Bob J]

I would go for a complete set of pins as well..... Great stuff guys.....;-)

[Highland Drifter]

I've been watching this one, and I know it's late in the game. If it's not too late I would like to get in on this one with the additional pins as well.

Brian

[69daytona]

its never to late until you see its closed here from MiHec. When he has everything ready he will close it so jump on in, Miha makes great molds, I have 2 of his cramer molds so far and 3 more on order.

[TDC]

To be clear on the pins, what I am proposing is 4 different pin pairs that would enable the production of 2 boolits of each HP style at the same time. The pin pairs would consist of two pins each of the 5 faceted .375, 2 each of the large .375 HP's, 2 each of the medium .250 HP's, and two each of the small .175 HP's.

The redundancy would be that each pin would still form a solid nose on one side of each pin. Being able to produce more boolits of any HP type is worth the redundancy I believe. We are currently committed to two pin sets for this mould GP now. Two more pin sets would only cost each of us an additional $16 for a complete range of versatility.

If this is something Miha isn't interested in doing or it doesn't seem acceptable to everyone I'll go back to my original plan to order more pins from Miha to create my own.... Please give this some serious thought, guys.....

Thanks!

Terry

[Highland Drifter]

Terry,
I'm open to the additional pins. I'll be shooting this boolit out of a Handi-Rifle. The optional hollow point cavity size and velocity range of the rifle barrel will allow expansion rate anywhere from a mild mushrooming of the nose to a grenade.

Brian

[TDC]

will allow expansion rate anywhere from a mild mushrooming of the nose to a grenade.

Brian

Great analogy, Brian.... That's what I'm thinking too!! :-D

[Blake Stephenson]

I am interested in one of these with all the pins.

[69daytona]

Im getting two molds with one set of each style pin. cant wait until this gets started as im buying another 500, this time the new 6.5" that looks like the old model 29. 4",6.5",10 1/2" and a handi rifle should cover most everything.
These things properly loaded are as powerful as my 300 ultra mag.

[calinb]

I found out about this forum and this group buy from a fellow Beowulf forum member. I don't know what's best for the 'wulf so I'm in for a mold and all the available pin options! Whatever you guys decide is as good a place for me to start casting Beowulf bullets as any. :)

Will the Lee mold handles work with this mold?

Thanks,

-Cal

[69daytona]

The lee handles for the 6 cavity work good on my 2 cramer molds from Mihec, dont have any 2 cavity handles to try.

[calinb]

Thanks, 69daytona--that's good to hear.

This is a gas check mold, right? (Isn't that what the dotted line in drawing is telling me?)

-Cal

[calinb]

Forgot to ask, what's the delivery time running from Mihec these days?

[stubshaft]

I wanted to amend my original order. I want - 1 mould with an extra set of the largest pins.

[MiHec]

ok

i will open order page this weekend.

Now if i understand correctly we have 3 different HP pins?

[happy7]

Mihec,

Awesome, awesome, excellent. So happy you are going to make this for us!!!!!!!

[jar-wv]

I'm in too if it's not to late. 1 mold with extra pins.

jar

[TDC]

++++ what happy7 said!!

Three or hopefully four pairs of HP pin sizes would be perfect as discussed. I'm for the four pin pairs while we have the opportunity... but whatever works..

I believe we have a group of casters who are seriously interested in experimenting with this fabulous new boolit. A full range of HP sizes would permit that to occur with such a large, well designed hunting boolit... and I think this is one mould that wouldn't end up stacked with a pile of others of the same caliber in the owners collection. It's versatility and usefulness will be endless from self defense to all forms of hunting......

Thanks 69datona for proposing this! Thanks Miha for being willing to work with us and make it! Thanks everyone with the confidence in this design to join with us to make it happen. It is surely destined to become a classic! :drinks:

Terry

[MiHec]

- cherry is ordered
- sprue plates are laser cut
- brass is in the shop


About pins: I will order 3 different pins small, medium and big
No 5 sided right now (Machining issue - i will first try this on .45HP)


Hope this is ok with you??:-D

[69daytona]

This is good with me. when you get around to getting the 5 sided pin perfected let us know so we can get a set of those too.
I am more than ready to start casting for this bullet.
Thanks Miha!!!

[wilddog45]

Sounds like a GO to me!!! YEEEHAW!!

[MiHec]

3 different pin set

[MiHec]

LINK (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=502hp_order_page&nosessionkill=1) to order page

[TDC]

My order is IN!!!. I'm in for the 5 faceted pins when they are available too......:drinks:

[happy7]

I ordered too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hicard]

I ordered one today. Thank you Mihec.

[RANGER RICK]

I ordered too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just committed to one .
Thanks
RR

[Bob J]

Order is in! This is going to be so awesome! :drinks:

[2Sharp]

I ordered today and am now waiting by the mailbox.

bj

[15bobcat]

I also ordered today. Thanks Mihec, and also Terry for the heads up.
-Harold

[EddieCoyle]

I just put in for one. Thanks for running this Mihec (and thanks BobJ for the heads up).

[stubshaft]

Finally got to place my order! Yeaaahhh!

Reminds me. I better order some more gas checks.

[obssd1958]

My order is in too!

stubshaft - where you gettin' the gas checks??



Don

[stubshaft]

My order is in too!

stubshaft - where you gettin' the gas checks??



Don

Blammer Go to the group buy logo at the bottom of the page. Or better yet check the VENDOR section and click on the post for ordering gas checks from Blammer.

[TDC]

My order is in too!

stubshaft - where you gettin' the gas checks??



Don

Don,

I just checked Blammers inventory. He only has 2k of the .501 Gator gas checks left in stock. You may want to hustle for them because it may be a few weeks or longer before he gets more in. You may want to ask him when his next .501 order will go in.

Keep in mind that to check his current inventory at the website stubshaft mentioned you will need to click on the "DJ's Corner" button instead of any other button once you log in to the site.

FYI, gas checks can be ordered directly from Gator with free shipping included with orders of 5k or more (calibers can be mixed). Any of you guys who are unable to acquire them from Blammer in a reasonable amount of time could PM me for the contact name and phone number to buy them direct. Some of us may want to consider our own group purchase of gas checks in the future. Just a thought.....

Terry

[wilddog45]

Order in.

[69daytona]

Im in for 2 with all the pins. While you guys are here TDC and I are looking at a heavier HP something around 500gr. This will be up on the board after we have this mold in our hands to see how it performs.
If any of you are interested please PM me and TDC,Happy and I will get to work on it.
Also a big Thank You to Longbow for doing all the drawings for us.

[MiHec]

LINK (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=502hp_order_page&nosessionkill=1) to order page

[Clyde]

Order for one mold placed.

[wilddog45]

This totally blows Lee Precision out of the water if you ask me.

[69daytona]

Im in on probably the last Lee mold group buy I will ever be in again. its been 2 years now and still nothing, Lee keeps saying soon but I think its a lost cause.
I am very happy with Miha's molds and the speed and precision that he gets the molds done.
Cant get this kind of service from Lee anymore.

[Highland Drifter]

Placed my order today.

[twocool4u]

I have ordered mine also.

[calinb]

I ordered. Anyone else here planning to cast for a Beowulf?

-Cal

[TDC]

calinb,

Lloyd Smale will be casting for the Beowulf and I expect there are others, too. There are several guns other than the S&W 500 people plan to use with this boolit.... If 69daytona doesn't already have a Beowulf he probably will shortly.... <big smile>

For everyone's info, I just checked Blammer's inventory and as I write this he now has 14k .50 Gator gas checks in stock. There should be no concerns about the immediate availability of gas checks now....

Terry

[yekcim]

I just ordered one mold & all pin sets. Will be loading for 50 Beowulf. Will send payment immediately when contacted. I hope I am not too late. Thanks for the opportunity.
yekcim

[69daytona]

I have been looking into a .50 Bewolf upper for my AR but for the cost I think I might go with the Encore barrel.
I was looking into making a wildcat 500 out of a cut down 300RUM. but not sure what pressure levels would be like, just something for Ranger Ricks 600 and 700gr bullets so I could get them up around 2000-2100fps. Cant have a 50BMG in Calif so this might be the answer.
Cut right behind the sholder case capacity would be about 98gr of water so with the 700gr bullet should have a load od around 75gr of H1000 or IMR7828, should push the 700 easy up to 2100-2500fps maybe even a little higher.
Just some thoughts. Anyone have a Train they need stopped. : )

[RANGER RICK]

69 Daytona

Note# Quick high jack of thread for one moment !!!

How about a 500 Cyrus CCM ??
It is a bolt action that uses my .500 700 Grain WFNGC at Velocities you are looking at
here are a few loads

700 Grain WFNGC 70 Grains H4895 Velocity 1850
610 Grain LFNGC 73 Grains H322 Velocity 1940
420 Grain FNGC 83 Grains H322 Velocity 2280
325 Grain Barnes XPB 88 Grains H322 Velocity 2600

The first cases I had were cut down 416 Rigby and necked out to .500 .
I now have cases that are made for this rifle and head stamped correctly .

I will be trying out these new bullets from this group buy in this rifle .

Here are a couple pictures.
The last set of pictures are of solid copper and brass hollow points ,mushroom is pretty good !!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/RANGERRICKQUIGLEY/DSC00237.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/RANGERRICKQUIGLEY/DSC00240.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/RANGERRICKQUIGLEY/DSC00287.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/RANGERRICKQUIGLEY/DSC00379.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/RANGERRICKQUIGLEY/DSC00380.jpg

[69daytona]

Thanks Rick for the pictures and the 500 cyrus sounds like what im looking for. it looks real good with the large SPBT. almost looks like one of the Whisper rounds.
Where can I get one of the Cyrus 500s, my gun shop has no idea what im talking about when I called them.

[RANGER RICK]

69daytona

Try www.crossoutdoors.com
His name is Mike and one heck of a good guy .
He will work with you any way you want to .
He also has a new Gun which is the 50 Tactical . It is the same case necked out to .512 .
I am in the works on this one . I just sent him a mess load of the 975 Grain FNGC .512 bullets to load test them .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/RANGERRICKQUIGLEY/50TAC1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/RANGERRICKQUIGLEY/50TAC5.jpg

RR

[calinb]

calinb,

Lloyd Smale will be casting for the Beowulf and I expect there are others, too. <snip>

Terry
Thanks, Terry I'd like to compare notes with Lloyd and Yekcim. I just ordered the Gator 512L GCs. Hope those are the correct ones for this mold.

-Cal

[wilddog45]

I guess my predictions of $100 a box ammo is starting to come true. http://www.crossoutdoors.com/cartridges.html Of course, not for any of us.:castmine:

[TDC]

Thanks, Terry I'd like to compare notes with Lloyd and Yekcim. I just ordered the Gator 512L GCs. Hope those are the correct ones for this mold.

-Cal

Cal,

I'm as new to this caliber and Cramer style as you are. The true experts here on this .50 caliber thread are Ranger Rick and 69daytona.

All my future casting/load development will be gleaned from information I hope to get back from them and others who have signed on to this group purchase.. I'm the first to admit if I don't know something and I don't know what the correct gas check size is for your Beowulf. I hope someone will step up to help you with that.

BTW guys, I received a first order of Ranger Ricks boolits yesterday. I had heard about them from 69daytona. They are truly amazing in sizes all the way up to 700gr. If you haven't received one of his fliers I would highly recommend requesting one. It clearly shows what is possible in the development of powerful boolits and loads for this fine caliber... And this is by a guy who doesn't base his creations on abstract theories, but actually tests them with real hunting adventures in his home state of Alaska.

Terry

[69daytona]

Like TDC said, if you have a .50 of any type you would be doing yourself a huge favor by checking out Ranger Ricks web site and getting some of his fine bullets, Someday I hope to cast as well as him.
He is the 500 GOD.
http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/

[manomet]

I have ordered one. Thanks to all in charge.

[69daytona]

The 512 GCs should be for the 500 linbaugh the GCs you will need for this boolit will be .500 which Blammer or Gator should have in stock also try Hornady, Blammer is usually cheaper.
The Linbaugh uses the same size bullet as the 50BMG which is .511 or around there, a lot bigger than what ours will need.

[calinb]

Thanks for straightening me out, 69daytona. I have some 500SWs on order from Blammer and I have 1000 Hornady S&W 500 GCs right now. Sounds like they will both workThe 512 GCs should be for the 500 linbaugh the GCs you will need for this boolit will be .500 which Blammer or Gator should have in stock also try Hornady, Blammer is usually cheaper.
The Linbaugh uses the same size bullet as the 50BMG which is .511 or around there, a lot bigger than what ours will need.

[MiHec]

Update:

Cherrys are inn

[69daytona]

Im getting excited. Thanks Miha, do you have a picture of them?

[TDC]

I'm setting up a chair next to my mailbox.... turning on my production pot!!:-)

Miha hasn't shut down his .502 order form yet. You guys sitting on the fence can still get in on this as it will soon be too late... The order address is highlighted below....

http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=502hp_order_page&nosessionkill=1

Don't miss this one.... I and others believe this will be the most desirable mould ever produced for the .50 caliber..... :drinks:

[grages]

I don't even have a .50 cal and I got in on it. But the Beowulf looks very interesting.

[wonderwolf]

I get my vacation pay tomorrow....I'll order one as soon as the paycheck hits the bank account.

Going to be shooting these in a S&W .500 5" John Ross revolver.....I won't be shooting it until I graduate college though since its a motivational graduation present from my sister.

[TDC]

Now you've done it, Wonderwolf..... You've mentioned a 500 barrel length 69daytona doesn't have yet and probably ruined his whole day. I'll bet his finger is quivering over the order page button of his favorite gun shop website right now. :wink:

That John Ross 5" 500 is a very nice gun and it has my favorite all time revolver barrel length. I recently bought a new 629 Classic 5".

Sneak it out and shoot it after the new mould arrives.... You can tell your sister all the guys on this thread threatened you and we made you do it... :wink: We've gotta get everyone out shooting these new boolits so we can compare notes. BTW, I enjoyed your website....

[wilddog45]

Any news or progress?

[wonderwolf]

Now you've done it, Wonderwolf..... You've mentioned a 500 barrel length 69daytona doesn't have yet and probably ruined his whole day. I'll bet his finger is quivering over the order page button of his favorite gun shop website right now. :wink:

That John Ross 5" 500 is a very nice gun and it has my favorite all time revolver barrel length. I recently bought a new 629 Classic 5".

Sneak it out and shoot it after the new mould arrives.... You can tell your sister all the guys on this thread threatened you and we made you do it... :wink: We've gotta get everyone out shooting these new boolits so we can compare notes. BTW, I enjoyed your website....

By my website I take it you mean my blog? If so thank you very much, I try to keep up with it as I like writing and sharing my projects with others.

[wilddog45]

No, I mean the BOOLIT!!!

[69daytona]

only thing thats new is he has the cherries in. nothing other than that.

[wilddog45]

Ya, I guess he does have a day job.

[MiHec]

Status:
- hp pins are inn
- sprue plates are produced
- material is ready


All i need is free machine :???:

[69daytona]

Im looking forward to this. Thanks Miha for the update

[MiHec]

No more orders!

[twocool4u]

When and how are we paying for these?

I have emptied all my .500 brass and am now just waiting.......[smilie=w::Fire:

[MiHec]

When and how are we paying for these?

I have emptied all my .500 brass and am now just waiting.......[smilie=w::Fire:

When they are finished via PayPal or AlertPay...

www.paypal.com

www.alertpay.com (preffered)

[happy7]

I am going to sign up for alertpay now.

[Bob J]

I'm signing up as well......

I am going to sign up for alertpay now.

[69daytona]

I have 500 empty cases waiting for this one.

[TDC]

Just curious......

Was there a final count on the number ordered? I believe there will be a surprise with the amount of interest this mold produced. Perhaps we could see a list to confirm everyone who ordered is included.....

Just goes to show ya what a great design, great manufacturer and a knowledgeable and committed group of users can build together..... For the comparatively limited number of firearms that use this diameter this was a very good showing....

Congratulations, everyone.......:cbpour:

[MiHec]

I will post the list...

[frank505]

I have dumb question, what is going on with this mold buy? Will I receive a private message regarding payment or?????

[69daytona]

Right now we are just waiting on Miha to send us any information, He will be sending out emails or PMs to let everyone know when the molds are done and where to send the payment.
Should hear something very soon as he said he had everything in stock and ready to machine.

[frank505]

Thank you for the information, I cant wait to make a pile of them.

[MiHec]

Things are moving.......finally

As
I said before:

- HP pins are ready
- cherrys are inn
- material is in
- sprue plates are in (laser cut)

Cross your fingers that I will get free machine this weekend as prommised

[Highland Drifter]

I have a dumb question late in the game. What diameter are these suppose to drop from the mold. I size .503 for my Handi Rifle.

Brian

[happy7]

I want them to drop about .502 so I can size .501, although if they drop .503 I would be happy with that was well. I would not want to drop much bigger than that. Highland, if you want it bigger, then maybe Mihec will make yours a little bigger. He has done this in the past.

[MiHec]

Here will be the issue of Gas check if I do bigger than .502.

I will check this once I can cast with the mold

[Highland Drifter]

.502 will work for me. I'll lube them and size the gas check in my .503 sizing die.

[RANGER RICK]

BTT

Just keeping it a live !!!!!

RR

[MiHec]

This one will be machined soon
Right now I'm on .40 and .41mag - next is .502

I'm machining with 120% speed now

[MiHec]

And most recent list...


P.s. Tedder send me your e-mail address

[TDC]

Great news, Miha....

Lots of anxious and enthusiastic people patiently waiting. I hope all our orders will help you acquire the new machine you're looking for ... We'll keep you and it busy when you get it!!:drinks::drinks::drinks:

Terry

[69daytona]

This design turned out to sell a lot more than I expected. Im looking forward to casting and shooting these when time permits.
Thanks Miha

[wilddog45]

The suspense is killin' me!!!:lovebooli

[TDC]

The suspense is killin' me!!!:lovebooli

Patience, Wilddog45,

Miha bought his own CNC machine this week!!!:drinks:

Terry

[obssd1958]

Bump??

[TDC]

This one will be machined soon
Right now I'm on .40 and .41mag - next is .502

I'm machining with 120% speed now

Hi Miha....

I see the .502 picture is shown on your website "Active Group Buys" page. Looking good!!

http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=Active_group_buys

The .40 is shipping and the .41 has progressed to a test mold!!! You're really moving now! We have the three different pin options assured. Will you also be able to provide the five facited design? Thanks!

We're next guys!!

[2Sharp]

Hi Miha....

I see the .502 picture is shown on your website "Active Group Buys" page. Looking good!!

http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=Active_group_buys

The .40 is shipping and the .41 has progressed to a test mold!!! You're really moving now! We have the three different pin options assured. Will you also be able to provide the five faceted design? Thanks!

We're next guys!!

I am so excited about this one. I would really like to be able to get the 5 sided pin option if possible. If not now maybe made available later separately.

bj

[Porterhouse]

Btt...

[MiHec]

Boys, you are next.....

Just finishing .41mag and then is .502

If anything goes to the plan .502 should be finished before new year

[wilddog45]

Sounds good to me!!

[happy7]

Good deal!

[TDC]

Boys, you are next.....

Just finishing .41mag and then is .502

If anything goes to the plan .502 should be finished before new year

Happy New Year!!!!:drinks:

[Porterhouse]

Sounds good!
My plan is to push these @ 1200~1350fps out of my 5" M500. My calculation/assumption tells me I can reach this with SR4759 X 28.0~32.0gr. Looks like a busy winter.

[MiHec]

Just to let you know...

Now we have 100% dedicated machine. Click here (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showpost.php?p=738288&postcount=299)

[happy7]

Looks good Miha. Does this mean molds will come quiker? That would be great because I want a couple that seem to be way down the list.

[Mohillbilly]

I like the looks of this 50, wonder if I might sneek an order in? I'll try....

[MiHec]

I like the looks of this 50, wonder if I might sneek an order in? I'll try....

You are inn...

[69daytona]

Now that the 41 is being shipped it wont be long before we see our .502 HP.
Cant wait to have this one in my hands.
Miha if your reading this, Any chance of getting a five sided pin with this one??

[MiHec]

Now that the 41 is being shipped it wont be long before we see our .502 HP.
Cant wait to have this one in my hands.
Miha if your reading this, Any chance of getting a five sided pin with this one??

Right now I have 3 different pins for this one - we can do 5 sided later.
But I'll see what can I do (ask my lathe man if he can squeeze it in)

[wilddog45]

Miha, you sure have gone the extra mile on pins for this mold. Do you have any pics of test molds you could post? Just curious.

[MiHec]

Miha, you sure have gone the extra mile on pins for this mold. Do you have any pics of test molds you could post? Just curious.

Not yet - but it will be available very soon

[69daytona]

For those of you in on this buy, There is a thread started for a Cramer mold in 700gr for the FP should be around 650gr with the wide deep HP pin we are going to use.
Also going to start a new thread for a 600gr Cramer mold which should weigh around 560gr as a HP. Just in case your interested in being armed for anything that moves.

[happy7]

Mihec, this is probably too late, but I have quite a bit of experience casting with .500 caliber bullets. Can you make the mold blocks a good bit larger than the previous blocks. If you don't, we are going to have trouble keeping the blocks cool. They are going to overheat and then they will warp. Brass warps easier than aluminum or iron according to Dan at Mountain Molds. Also, is there any chance of getting a three cavity?

[MiHec]

Mihec, this is probably too late, but I have quite a bit of experience casting with .500 caliber bullets. Can you make the mold blocks a good bit larger than the previous blocks. If you don't, we are going to have trouble keeping the blocks cool. They are going to overheat and then they will warp. Brass warps easier than aluminum or iron according to Dan at Mountain Molds. Also, is there any chance of getting a three cavity?

Yes, you are bit to late.
The blocks are same dimensions as other two cavities (34x19.2x50 mm).
What I did is I moved a center of a boolits away from each other. (so you get more material between cavities).

I don't think they will warp (with normal use)

[MiHec]

After 5 minutes of thinking.......

I will try to do it in bigger blocks (34x19.2x60mm)

[manomet]

What type of handles are needed for these ?

[happy7]

Manomet: Most people use Lee six cavity handles for these.

Thanks Mihec. That makes me very happy and I am sure that will be a big help. Making them taller would probably help as well, but I understand if that dimension is not changeable with your current brass stock.

It is not just the potential to warp, but making good bullets is more challenging if the total bullet weight to size of block ratio gets too large. I appreciate you being responsive like this.

[TDC]

For those of you in on this buy, There is a thread started for a Cramer mold in 700gr for the FP should be around 650gr with the wide deep HP pin we are going to use.
Also going to start a new thread for a 600gr Cramer mold which should weigh around 560gr as a HP. Just in case your interested in being armed for anything that moves.

Count me out of this one, Jack....

I'd be in for a .502 Cramer not to exceed 500 gr with its flat point. I can see jumping up 100 grains from what we have coming from Miha now, but not a 200 or 300 grain jump.

I hunt and will continue to hunt all kinds of North American big game, even the big bears. I see no need for a boolit to exceed the 500 gr weight size at this time for hunting. Just too much recoil at peak velocity with the big boolits.... Trajectory is also a very important issue to consider and I believe 500 grains would be about optimum for hunting use with this caliber. I'd like to hear from Ranger Rick about his experiences with the hunting aspects of this one...

If you guys decide to do another Cramer in the smaller 500 gr size put me on the list.. I'd be the first to jump on board...

Terry

[RANGER RICK]

I really like big heavy bullets for sure. My wife says I am compensating for something but I have no idea what she is talking about!!!!!

One thing to Remember is these bullets at .500 DIA can be used for revolver and rifle.
I push a 700 Grain WFNGC at velocity 1900 plus (not looking at my data to be completely correct) out of my 500 Cyrus Bolt action Rifle which uses 416 Rigby cases.
I also use them out of my Handy Rifle with higher velocities than my revolver.

As for the revolvers I have taken moose,caribou,black bear ,elk,sitka black tail deer on Kodiak ,hogs and a few other critters while the Kodiak brown bears have eluded me on two separate spring hunts with the 500S&W.
Maybe I can redeem my self if I pull that 2010 fall Kodiak bear hunt permit !!!! We will see !!!
All of the animals were taken with the 700 Grain 600 and the 535 Grain Keith .
As I have stated in another thread I have the 700 sighted in at 115 yards with my S&W 10.5 PC Hunter and it is a tack driver .
I do have other lighter bullets that I use every now and then very few at that and none for hunting.
I practice with what I am using out in the field while hunting so I mainly shoot the 700's and at this time I have over 30,000 through the tube on my S&W , good thing I roll my own !!!

I do hunt with my revolver as my main firearm and had nothing but pleasure with the heavy weights.

As for the recoil with the 700 it is not all that bad . Some of the loads with the 400 and 420 grain actually hurt with a nasty flip of the revolver barrel .
Heavy bullets are not for all folks and I think there is just a small group that actually use these for hunting .
I would say the most common .500 bullet fore hunting would be in the 500 Grain range with the 440 WFNGC being the most popular .

Anyway I am starting to ramble a bit so I will say in closing that the 700 is a very fun bullet to use ,shoot and just fun to have a few loaded sitting on the reloading bench for a conversation piece when friends come over .

RR

[TDC]

Thanks for the reply, RR...

I just can't justify buying this new .502 for my use. If I need a well made boolits in a size above 500gr I'll place another order with you, Ranger Rick... :grin:

I expect to be in AK next year. If I get eaten by something fuzzy that grunts because I used a boolit smaller than 500gr, you, Jack and Happy can have my 500... (if it doesn't get eaten too) :grin:

Terry

[grages]

Boys, you are next.....

Just finishing .41mag and then is .502

If anything goes to the plan .502 should be finished before new year

Just wondering whats going on with this buy. Nothing posted here since the beginning of January. I'm reading a lot in the #503 Cramer Style Hollow Point GB thread and seeing nice pic's. Are there problems? Or is it to get the bigger blocks?

I'm in on both buys and in no rush for this one. Just want to know the status, since I need to pay for it when it's ready.

Shawn

[MiHec]

Just wondering whats going on with this buy. Nothing posted here since the beginning of January. I'm reading a lot in the #503 Cramer Style Hollow Point GB thread and seeing nice pic's. Are there problems? Or is it to get the bigger blocks?

I'm in on both buys and in no rush for this one. Just want to know the status, since I need to pay for it when it's ready.

Shawn

It is in production. With bigger blocks (longer for 10mm)
I will post some pictures (must go in the shop and take them)

[grages]

It is in production. With bigger blocks (longer for 10mm)
I will post some pictures (must go in the shop and take them)

Great news, was hoping that was the case.

[smilie=w:

Thanks
Shawn

[wonderwolf]

Thanks again for doing these....I'm sure the wait will be worth it!

[RANGER RICK]

This should be one fine bullet for sure .
Thanks MiHec for keeping us updated.

RR

[MiHec]

Some think to look at....

Bigger blocks (19,2x34x60 mm).

[Bob J]

Some think to look at....

Bigger blocks (19,2x34x60 mm).

Those look great Miha! [smilie=w:

[happy7]

Very nice. Thanks for making them bigger!

[wilddog45]

Very nice indeed!!!!

[grages]

Miha, the mold Artist! :cbpour:

[Cord]

If it is still possible, I want to be on the list for one of these.

If not, Please make me first in line for any over order moulds.

1 mould, all available pins – Thanks!

[jar-wv]

So when is this going to happen. I think we got shuffled to the back burner.

jar

[MiHec]

So when is this going to happen. I think we got shuffled to the back burner.

jar

I think I can finish them in a 7-10 days.
It is bigger blocks than originally intended so I need to do bigger sprue plates also.

[happy7]

Mihec,

Wow, great to hear it is getting close. Thanks for the update. Don't rush! I would rather wait till you get it right. Thanks again for making the bigger blocks. I know it will make a difference in the casting.

Boy, I can't hardly wait!! This is going to be a great mold!

[wilddog45]

I agree,we have waited this long so no need to rush now.I went out and bought 4 more lbs of H110 so i'll be ready when this one shows up.

[Highland Drifter]

I received my stainless barrel and bolt in the mail last week for the 50 Beowulf top end I'm building for an AR-15. This boolit should be a fun one in the Beowulf. :cbpour:


Brian

[69daytona]

Im happy to see this one almost done. Cant wait to do some casting and shooting with it.
The pics of the blocks and pins look great. Thanks Miha

[MiHec]

Cast nice .502 diam boolits
Pictures will follow...

[wilddog45]

O boy, It won't be long now!!!

[MiHec]

Some think to look at. Not best quality but you got the idea.

Molds will be finished in two days

[calinb]

Those look great, MiHec! After more than half a year, I'm finally getting excited and my Beowulf and .50 cal muzzleloader await.

I've been making some bullets for my .45 cal muzzleloader with my first HP mold. It's a Gould 45-70 boolit (Lyman 457122 mold). Pardon my newbish question but how does one drop a casting from a Cramer mold? Whack the sprue cutter, invert the mold, open the mold, and whack the pins out from the side to drop the boolits? Is that the correct procedure?

[MiHec]

Those look great, MiHec! After more than half a year, I'm finally getting excited and my Beowulf and .50 cal muzzleloader await.

I've been making some bullets for my .45 cal muzzleloader with my first HP mold. It's a Gould 45-70 boolit (Lyman 457122 mold). Pardon my newbish question but how does one drop a casting from a Cramer mold? Whack the sprue cutter, invert the mold, open the mold, and whack the pins out from the side to drop the boolits? Is that the correct procedure?

Here are the instructions


LINK (http://mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=Cramer_style_casting)

[wilddog45]

What did the as cast weight end up at?

[Bob J]

Miha, those sure look great..... Can't wait for this mold....[smilie=w:

[69daytona]

The mold and bullets look good Miha.cant wait to cast some from this mold.
Thanks.

[MiHec]

Molds are finished....

.....15 minutes ago....


Now I need to pack them. Expect PayPal request in a 2-3 days

[wilddog45]

Waaaaaaaahoooooooo!!!!

[MiHec]

weight of non-lubed boolit with middle size pin (the one on the pictures) is

- 378 grains with GC
- 362 grains without GC

[TDC]

Beautiful!!!

It looks as though you used the smaller HP pins to show the boolit examples, Miha!! Those, I predict, are going to be the standard for an optimum hunting design. Controlled expansion with heavier walls should make this the boolit of choice for those wishing to us this .502 on truly dangerous game.

Having the larger cavity options available will make this bullet the optimum self defense/urban use design. Its expected rapid expansion potential should limit the dangerous urban problem with this caliber penetrating many walls before its path is finally halted.

Great job, Miha, 69Daytona, happy7, and everyone who participated in the creation of this boolit. I believe a standard has been set for this caliber that will be talked about for decades. I can't wait to not only cast it but to try it in the field as well....

[frank505]

how do i pay without the paypal i gotta have this mod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MiHec]

Beautiful!!!

It looks as though you used the smaller HP pins to show the boolit examples, Miha!! Those, I predict, are going to be the standard for an optimum hunting design. Controlled expansion with heavier walls should make this the boolit of choice for those wishing to us this .502 on truly dangerous game.

Having the larger cavity options available will make this bullet the optimum self defense/urban use design. Its expected rapid expansion potential should limit the dangerous urban problem with this caliber penetrating many walls before its path is finally halted.

Great job, Miha, 69Daytona, happy7, and everyone who participated in the creation of this boolit. I believe a standard has been set for this caliber that will be talked about for decades. I can't wait to not only cast it but to try it in the field as well....



Uppppssss......


Yes, pins are small ones

[MiHec]

how do i pay without the paypal i gotta have this mod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

alernative is


www.AlertPay.com (http://www.AlertPay.com)


or PM me

[2Sharp]

Will the HP pins from the just finished #503 mold work on this mold? Hoping to have a 5 sided hollow point option on this boolit.

bj

[MiHec]

Will the HP pins from the just finished #503 mold work on this mold? Hoping to have a 5 sided hollow point option on this boolit.

bj

No. Pins are different for each mold (they are reversible so....)

[hicard]

Man I wish I had a 50 for myself so I could get one of these for myself instead of for a friend of mine. Maybe he will let me play with his.

[obssd1958]

hicard,
Come to the Nevada Cast Boolit shoot in May. I'll be bringing my Automag V, in 50AE, and hopefully some boolits from this mould. You, or anyone else from here, will be more than welcome to play!!!
:Fire:[smilie=w:

Don

[MiHec]

Tomorrow I will start to send PayPal requests.
I will send it 15 per day - so it will took 3 days for all

[MiHec]

First requests are out (PayPal)

[2Sharp]

Payment sent. Hurry up mailman.

bj

[EddieCoyle]

Payment sent. Thanks for doing this guys.

[RANGER RICK]

Payment sent with smiles !!!!
Thanks again Mihec

RR

[TDC]

Mine too!! I'm pacing the floor......:drinks:

[69daytona]

Let me know how it is when you guys get yours. still waiting for payment request.

[yekcim]

I am also eagerly awaiting the payment request!!
yekcim

[hicard]

Payment sent Miha. Thanks again.

[Clyde]

Payment sent via PayPal. Thanks!

[twocool4u]

Paypal payment sent.

[wilddog45]

Paypal payment sent. Thanks Miha

[wonderwolf]

Payment sent :-)

[grages]

Payment Sent :)

Thanks Miha

Shawn

[manomet]

Payment sent Thanks to those involved

[69daytona]

payment sent, Thanks Miha and all those that will be enjoying this mold.Thanks again Longbow for drawing this one up, we made a winner.

[yekcim]

Payment just sent by PayPal. Thanks MiHec.

[obssd1958]

Payment made - anticipation peaking!


[smilie=1:

[Porterhouse]

Payment sent. Thank you!

[Bob J]

Payment sent! Thanks Miha!

[jt1]

Got my request and sent payment this morning.

Thanks, I'm looking forward to it.

John

[lostsixgunner]

Payment sent. Thanks all.

[Porterhouse]

I forgot to ask;
What handles do I need for these?

[MiHec]

I forgot to ask;
What handles do I need for these?

Lee 6 cavity or MP-mold handles (http://mp-molds.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=6) or KAL handles (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=56554)

[MiHec]

I send out all the PayPal Requests!!!

Please check your e-mails and If you did not have one please PM me.

There are 10 molds waiting.....

[69daytona]

Hey Miha, I got one of my molds today but not the other one, I hope it didnt go to someone else.
It looks great though, cant wait to get some casting done with it.

[calinb]

I received my mold today. Wow--what a well manufactured and beautiful mold! I hope to cast tomorrow. This is my first custom mold and group buy and I was waiting to see how it turned out before deciding on the .452 (453) HP mold group buy. Unfortunately, the timing was terrible and the 453 group buy closed today but I'll happily order one, if you ever do a third run of the 453HP, MiHec.

-Cal

[hicard]

""Hey Miha, I got one of my molds today but not the other one, I hope it didnt go to someone else.
It looks great though, cant wait to get some casting done with it."

I got my 2 moulds 2 days apart too, 69daytona.

[obssd1958]

I got my mould yesterday, and it looks great! Can't wait to get started casting and shooting some of these!
Thanks Miha!

Don

[clong]

Found my request for payment in my spam mail. Payment made.

[Bob J]

Got my .502 mould Friday! What a beautiful piece of work! Miha you are the best!