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glicerin
03-08-2006, 01:18 PM
Just cast samples of bullets from an old beat up mold, approx. 12 ga. size, body about .651", approx. 2 oz., with two male lugs 180 degrees apart, increasing diameter to about .698". Suspect the lugs engaged the rifling(2 groove, maybe a muzzleloader). Just a curiosity, anyone have a name for it?

jhalcott
03-08-2006, 02:01 PM
possibly a "Brunswick" variant or maybe a john Jacobs styled bullet.

9.3X62AL
03-08-2006, 02:11 PM
.....12 ga. size, body about .651", approx. 2 oz., with two male lugs 180 degrees apart, increasing diameter to about .698". Suspect the lugs engaged the rifling(2 groove, maybe a muzzleloader). Just a curiosity, anyone have a name for it?

One comes to mind here--Something I'd Rather Not Shoot (SIRNS Pattern). Any slug needing that level of pre-engraving would hurt as much on one end of the firing sequence as it would on the other!

Have fun with it anyway.

Leftoverdj
03-08-2006, 03:02 PM
Jacobs, from the description. Early, maybe the first, British miltary rifle.

versifier
03-08-2006, 03:06 PM
Could you possibly post a picture, please?

shooter575
03-08-2006, 03:30 PM
Yes,picture please. My guess you being from Canada is a mould from the Brunswick.This rifle was the rifle adopted in 1840 that predated the 1853 Enfield.I did a google search and found a bunch of links.One said that the Belgan made copies sold to russia used a bullet with the two lugs vs the brits using a belted rb. Here are some links

http://www.civilwarguns.com/9805b.html

http://www.cybertap.com/brothers/brunswickrifle/intropage.html

http://www.civilwarguns.com/0008b.html

floodgate
03-08-2006, 04:25 PM
dj:

"Jacobs, from the description. Early, maybe the first, British miltary rifle."

Second, actually - if you don't count the Ferguson breech-loader, which was a non-official arm. The first was the Baker, which used a conventional patched ball with 3/4 turn rifling. For a really good read about its use, get a copy of Mark Urban's "Wellington's Rifles". Wellington was (and remained) a believer of massed infantry musket fire, but in the rugged country in Portugal, he found the green-coated rifle skirmishers a most useful auxiliary. Lots more info on all of these on the British Militaria Forum:

http://p223.ezboard.com/bbritishmilitariaforums

floodgate

Skink
03-08-2006, 05:47 PM
A friend of mine had an old German drilling that obviously took a bullet like that.

glicerin
03-09-2006, 01:07 AM
Thanx for feedback guys. I think Jacob used four groove smaller boolit. Brunswick looks dead on for size, But I can only find pictures of belted round ball. Will try to track down belgian variant. This is a nose pour mold(missing spru plate, two threaded holes on top). Base plug is missing, no obvious methos of attachment, assume hollow base or minie style base. Can't easily do pics. Handle and mold half are one piece, curved steel(iron?) handle like slip joint pliers, no alignment pins. I held the mold flat on a metal surface to pour 2 sample boolits.