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bigboredad
05-23-2009, 03:57 PM
ok guys just tried smelting for the first time it went pretty good until I tyried to get the lead out of the muffin tins. Is there a trick to this at this point I've 24 ingots that won release from the tins

Ole
05-23-2009, 03:59 PM
Some of the muffin pans are coated with tin.

If you have those, you'll have to peel them off the ingots (think destroying them with a pair of pliers).

cmkiefer
05-23-2009, 04:04 PM
I just cast a mess of WW in muffin tins last night. Didn't have too much of a problem as long as I kept the tins smoked up good. I use a wood fire for melting and I just laid the tin(s) over that every few turns.

Philngruvy
05-23-2009, 06:11 PM
some muffin tins have a little ridge around the top which will "capture" or lock in the ingot. you have to pour just below that ridge and the ingot will drop out, otherwise as previously posted, peel the muffin tin off with pliers. guess how I know that?

fredj338
05-23-2009, 10:32 PM
The aluminum one are better. I used small bread loaf pans for years & then bought a couple of channel iron molds from one of the casters on another site. Just about any steel/iron or aluminum shape can be used. Those cheap disposable alum. foil muffin pans work fine too.

WHITETAIL
05-24-2009, 07:24 AM
bigboredad, Welcome to the forum!:cbpour:

WHITETAIL
05-24-2009, 07:29 AM
From what I have read on here.
Get the one piece muffin tins.
So there is no seam to get stuck no.
The ones I use are the castiron type.
If you have steel ones just leve them
out in the rain for a while.
The slight rust acts as a release agent.:redneck:

jsizemore
05-24-2009, 07:52 AM
I'm always on the lookout for new muffin tins. I've run up on some new and nearly new steel. I leave them outside in the weather to try and get some crud and rust buildup on them to work as mold release.

But that doesn't help your immediate problem. My solution is simple. If it's a steel muffin tin, I ste it back on top of my turkey fryer/smelter for a little while. I don't let the ingots get molten but "loose". Your mileage may vary. I'll set the muffin tin on for a minute and then give it a try. If that doesn't work I start extending the time on the flame until it releases OR say it's not worth the $1 and break out the pliers.

Shiny muffin tins ain't worth a damn.

Echo
05-24-2009, 11:42 AM
My muffin tin is a no-stick number I bought @ Salvation Army store, and ingots drop out easily. But will be converting to angle-iron molds as soon as they get here! Easier to stack.

BowHunter252
05-24-2009, 02:07 PM
You might could turn them upside down and use a propane torch on the pan to drop them out

bigboredad
05-24-2009, 04:12 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions I got the pliers out and tore them out I guess I need to find a better mould for ingots

kendall yates
05-24-2009, 06:03 PM
Find an old cast irom muffin pan, they work great.

Lloyd Smale
05-25-2009, 05:56 AM
i use teflon pans and the first couple times i use them i give them a good coating of pam. After a few uses its not nessisary anymore.

weakhand luke
05-25-2009, 07:36 AM
Throw 'em in the fire, store 'em outdoors in the weather. Rustier, uglier the better.

BT Sniper
05-27-2009, 07:11 PM
+1 with what weakhand said. I got the cheepest muffin pans I could find at wall mart and threw them in the fire as I melted the lead and store them outside too. They work great now.

jonk
05-28-2009, 09:34 AM
Midway's mold release solved this issue for me. Good thing too; I had a whole can of it on hand and no use for it as I HATE it in molds.

GLL
05-28-2009, 10:16 AM
I agree with Kendall Yates ! Get old cast iron muffin pans ! A light coating of rust allows ingots to fall out by just turning the mould upside down ! RUST... natures teflon coating ! :) :)

Jerry

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bigboredad
05-29-2009, 12:40 PM
Hey thanks for all the suggestions I tried a non stick pan and that worked great

yodar
05-31-2009, 05:17 PM
Find an old cast irom muffin pan, they work great.

They stand up on end, are about 2# per ingot and they don't stick from using a lodge cast iron cornbread-stick mold

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yodar

geargnasher
05-31-2009, 06:30 PM
My muffin tins all get a coating of grey oxide on them naturally, don't know what it is and don't care too much but only had a few sticking problems when they were new, smoked them and they were ok. The oxide works now!

Gear