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Old Ironsights
04-30-2009, 03:10 PM
http://www.leverguns.com/sale/9mmblivet.JPG

Note the well formed patented "Double-Chin" (tm) Neck & Shoulder!

http://levergunscommunity.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17144&p=206048#p206048

snaggdit
04-30-2009, 03:16 PM
Not much room for powder left there. Couple grains of Red Dot?

DanOH
04-30-2009, 03:27 PM
Reckon you load that from the muzzle?

686
04-30-2009, 03:48 PM
it must be a hb bullet and the powder is in the bullet. do youi use a xxx mag. primmer?

SWIAFB
04-30-2009, 03:55 PM
Here we go again, I think some of us have to much time on our hands.

wiljen
04-30-2009, 04:04 PM
I hadn't realized the design of the BD45 was inspired by the Asperly boolit.

sundog
04-30-2009, 04:09 PM
DanOH, rebated bolt head..., with internal extractor. Ejector tended to be iffy at times because of that kind of set up.

briang
04-30-2009, 06:15 PM
How the heck did he get that in there?

oltimer2
04-30-2009, 06:23 PM
No sizing, no lube, no crimp, just cast in place, works perfectly every time.

Trey45
04-30-2009, 06:30 PM
How the heck did he get that in there?

twss....

waksupi
04-30-2009, 07:25 PM
http://www.leverguns.com/sale/9mmblivet.JPG

Note the well formed patented "Double-Chin" (tm) Neck & Shoulder!

http://levergunscommunity.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17144&p=206048#p206048


I'm sorry, but this round has been mis-identified. This is for the .45-38 Short Polish Magnum.

sundog
04-30-2009, 08:10 PM
Ric, NOT! If it's not an Asperly then it came from France and is an 11mm reduced rimless. I'll guar-own-tee, it ain't Polish. My kin were farmers and knew the difference between the mule shoe and an anvil.

SWIAFB
04-30-2009, 08:10 PM
It definitly neds soom lube grooves.I also thought that Buckshots Asperly was a blackpowder cartridge weopon.But whom can only guess about the Famouse ASPERLEE AMIELLESS

jdgabbard
04-30-2009, 08:59 PM
Whatever it is, it sure is weird looking...

stubshaft
04-30-2009, 09:33 PM
Whatever it is, it sure is weird looking...

If you think the bullet is weird, you should see the magazine!

Old Ironsights
04-30-2009, 09:42 PM
If you think the bullet is weird, you should see the magazine!

You mean the top-loading/gravity-feed 13rd stick or the 117rd hopper?

AZ-Stew
04-30-2009, 09:49 PM
The chamber is cylindrical. When resizing, the case enters the die rim first.

Regards,

Stew

stubshaft
04-30-2009, 11:32 PM
Ohhh, So you use the LEE case rim holder?

jameslovesjammie
05-01-2009, 06:51 AM
I think I dated a girl once what was shaped just like that. :shock:

Bret4207
05-01-2009, 07:55 AM
I hate to anal about this, but if you'll look carefully you'll realize that is .471 Finklestein-Hoffmiester Midget Magnum, version 11. Seymour Finklestein and Lars Hoffmeister were of course associated with now defunct Lichtenstein Government Experimental Arsenal at Klwgstunghn, just outside of Sxghtyyngradd. In 1932 they were involved in the development of the Albright- Shyster machine gun, famous for it's ease of cleaning since the entire weapon was made from chrome and sponge rubber. A photo of the machine gun can be found on page 972 of "Famous Machine Guns of Lichtenstein Volume 2" written by Sir Hopewell Biddignton Smyth, HMCS, DDRG, FTHU, KMNG, SSEWNMP, who as we all know is the final authority in this area.

The .471 F-HMM unfortunately was a mere flash in the pan, although rumors of various Super Grade Winchester Model 70's factory chambered in this cartridge still surface occasionally. The most commom cause listed for the cartridges early demise appears to surround not the case shape or the Albright-Shyster MG, but rather the powder used in the military loadings. Produced at the Trygnastintang powder factory near Splighnbbtymk in Eastern Klyggncpop prior to that City-States inclusion into Mignomistan in 1935, the powder was produced from a proprietary mixture of beet pulp, hoof trimmings, whey, bat urine, naval lint and the inner bark of a local shrub found only in that region called Rtyngh, later determined to be distantly related to poision ivy. The burn rate of this novel powder enabled the .471 H-FMM to propel the 371 gr projectile at nearly 6,389 fps while giving an average chamber pressure of only 11 psi. Unfortunately the supply of Rtyngh (pronouced "klgnmmth") was extremely limited and the shrub is near extinction today. No other powder was found to be suitable for this ground breaking cartridge and it died an early death becoming obsolete by 1937.

Cartridge collectors pay premium prices for any example of the .471 H-FMM these days. A recent auction for an unopened box of original cartridges produced by the Government Arsenal fetched nearly $19.00 on Gun Broker.

Further information on the fascinating developments of Finklestein and Hoffmeister can be found at www.yagottaloveSeymourandLars.Lchn.org , the site of the F-H Collectors Association.

snaggdit
05-01-2009, 10:22 AM
Unfortunately the supply of Rtyngh (pronouced "klgnmmth") was extremely limited and the shrub is near extinction today.

LOL, too good.