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keeak
04-20-2009, 09:41 PM
There are a couple of powders that I never see anyone commenting on on the forum. One is Hodgon's H4895 vs IMR 4895, another is H 335 which in my loading manuals falls exactly between IMR 4895 and H 4895, and lastly is H414 which seems to be an all around powder for jacked bullets in 30-06. I am specifically directing this question to loads for the 06. Anyone out there have any experience with the Hodgons powders??

Heavy lead
04-20-2009, 09:46 PM
I used lots and lots of H414 in the late 80's and early 90's with the 06, 7x57, 6mm and others when Hodgdon unloaded a bunch of it as surplus for 7 bucks a pound, good powder with J-bullets, never shot cast, so can't comment on that. Pretty much just WW760. As far as the 4895's used some of both and also aa2495 which is pretty much the same too in the 308, but again with J's no cast.

runfiverun
04-20-2009, 10:02 PM
28-33 grs of either with 150-180 gr boolits with a filler will get you started.
h-414 was awesome in my 30-30. with the 150.

AZ-Stew
04-21-2009, 01:13 AM
If you're asking about j-word bullet loads, I've used all three. I've had my best results with H335 and a 150 gr bullet. I've had good, but not fantastic results with H414 and 165 gr bullets. I've used H4895, but don't recall any spectacular results with it. Matter of fact, it's supposed to be "THE" powder under the Sierra 168 gr HPBT Match bullet in the Garand. In my Garand it produced 3-4 inch "patterns", whereas the Sierra 150 gr Spitzer BT Game King over 50.0 H335 and a standard LR primer shoots 1" groups with the issue iron battle sights. This load also works very well in my Remington 700 BDL.

H335 and H414 are ball-type powders and go through most measures like water. H4895, on the other hand, is a stick-type extruded powder that doesn't measure easily in my opinion.

Regards,

Stew

warf73
04-21-2009, 03:17 AM
I use IMR 4895 in my 460WBY, but all loads are with jacketed bullets ranging from 300gr HPs to 500gr RN. The H 335 gave the best accuracy in my Ruger 204 with 40gr pills. Other than that I've not used either in cast boolits YET.

Warf

Lloyd Smale
04-21-2009, 06:04 AM
I use a ton of 335 and 748 which are the same powder in my .223s and 308s. Excellent powder for about any 223 load or bullets up to 165 in the 308. 4895 is another good one but it doesnt meter so its a slow loading process if that matters to you and ive probably had a bit better luck with accuracy with 335. Now when the case gets a little bigger or the projectile a tad heavier i think 4895 catches up and passes 335. 4895 will operate much better and safer then 335 with air space in the cartridge which makes it a much better cast bullet powder.

JDL
04-21-2009, 10:51 AM
H-414 does a fine job in my three .30-30s with both RCBS 30-180FN and LBT 165 LFN. Both H-335 and surplus 4895 have proven very good in my 7.62X39 chambered CZ carbine utlizing a 165 grain boolit. H-4895 with RCBS 35-200FN and a 225 grain boolit from my BLR .358 gets a little over 2000 fps with groups from 1"-1.5" at 100 yards. If forced to use only one powder for all my rifles, ranging from .223 to .45-70, I'd unhesitatingly choose H-4895.
JDL

Recluse
04-21-2009, 11:18 AM
For j-bullets, I've had great success with both H4895, and especially IMR4895 in 30-06 and .270. 1MOA loads at 100 meters are child's play if you have the shooter that will do it. IMR4350 is still my go-to powder for the 06.

W748 and H335 are essentially the same powders. I use them pretty much exclusively for .223 and 30-30 with j-bullets, although I used some W748 for cast boolit loads for my .303 and was blown away by the accuracy and consistent grouping.

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