How Many .35 Rifles?

[NVcurmudgeon]

I've noticed a lot of .35 Whelen conversation lately, and even a member whose handle is .35 Whelen. The not wildly popular in the mainstream .35 cal. seems to be alive and well here. I have an early Ruger 77 rebarreled with a 16 twist Lilja to .35 Whelen. My previous .35 was a Savage 99-.358.

[africa]

Many consider the .358 win a better killer than his parent, the .308, or for that matter, old .06, under 200 yds. A buddy has one, rebarreled from a Rem 700 and swears by it to critters up to moose size.
. Plenty accurate for his purposes, shoots flatter than expected with 225 gr. pills and a great cast bullet shooter. Them fat cartriges do have a sinister look...

[imashooter2]

I got one in .357... does that count? http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif

[onceabull]

5x 35 remmie, 2x 35 Whelen,2x 358Winnie, 1x 356 winnnie i. No bolters in the pack.. Onceabull

[Mk42gunner]

I have a 98 Mauser that I built with an Adams & Bennet barrel and stock combo from midway, and another that is in progress with a Shilen barrel, (need to find a good piece of walnut). I also have a 357 trapper.

Robert

[Larry Gibson]

I've a M91 Mauser rebarreled to .35 Remington. It may end up short chambered with a .35 Whelen reamer into a .35x57.

Larry Gibson

[Johnch]

1 358 winchester and a 35 Rem

Johnch

[Dale53]

.35's and such - mere babies... :razz:

.45's or nothin'!! :???:

Dale53

[MT Gianni]

35 whelan with an adams & Bennett bbl on a 98 action. 356 win bb 94. Gianni.

[cabezaverde]

350 Rem mag Encore barrel, 358 Norma Ruger 77, 35 Rem Rimmed Contender barrel, and a couple of 357 revolvers.

[jhalcott]

35 whelen made from a mauser action,358 jdj and 35 rem

[floodgate]

358 Norma Mag. Apex barrel on a FN commercial action, made for me as a "tiger rifle" for a proposed assignment to Injah that never came off. Then PETA got tiger hunting (or, at least, importation of tiger parts) prohibited. Apex forgot the freebore the Norma was designed for, and I got some hellacious pressure signs with factory ammo (0.002-0.003" expansion at belt!). Got it throated out, and then put it away, but need to dig it out of the vault and do a pound slug to see just how much. Good way to exercise my original Lyman #3589 SC, as well as the group buy .358s. Thanks for the reminder!

floodgate

[Frank46]

Larry, would love to hear about your 1891 argie/35rem conversion. Been thinking along those lines myself. Frank

[Dutch4122]

Winchester M71 .348 Winchester
Winchester M94 Trails End .357 Magnum
NEF Handi Rifle in .357 Magnum (plan to ream this one out to .357 Maximum some day)
Marlin 336D (Mini Guide Gun) .35 Remington
Winchester '94 in .356 Winchester
Ruger M-77 Special Edition .35 Whelen

[C A Plater]

Remington 700 Classic .35 Whelen
Marlin 336 .35 Remington (aka the deer hammer)
T/C 14" Armalloy Contender .35 Remington (almost a rifle)
Waiting on a EMF 92 Winchester clone in .357 (color case frame, 24" octagon barrel)

[lovedogs]

Years ago an old friend and I built up a .35 Whelen Improved on a Mauser '98 action, bbl. by McGowan (great bbl.), with a Herter's stock. It was a great rifle. While I was raising my three boys I needed $$ so sold it to a friend. Big mistake. I've kicked myself ever since. The friend wouldn't sell it back though he never used it. I saw it last year; he's let it rust and it's not the same as when I owned it. One of those mistakes we probably all make. It was such a great gun and that McGowan tube was superbly accurate with anything I shot in it. Sure wish I could have gotten it back.

[felix]

Reminds me of the gun I had to sell when I was in college. My dad let me have his 257 roberts based on a german sniper action (dual trigger), personally picked up from a dead soldier by a friend while serving around a bridge crossing the rhine. ... felix

[Larry Gibson]

Larry, would love to hear about your 1891 argie/35rem conversion. Been thinking along those lines myself. Frank


I'd been thinking of the conversion for some time. So about 3 years ago I ended up with a "sporterized" (like most of them were cut down on import prior to sale) M91 for less than $50. It had a frosted bore but the rest of the action was in great condition. So I got one of the short chambered pre-threaded Shilen barrels from Brownell’s. The threads for the M91 are the same as for the M93/M95. The M91 has a lightly longer shank is all. That makes it easy to turn the shoulder back to fit it to the M91 action. The Shilen barrels are kind of spendy but they are quality barrels and with the barrel theading and short chamber done the rest was an easy job for me. Also they are 26” barrels with plenty of shank so they could be threaded to a M98 if the M91 didn’t work and chambered in .358 Win or .35 Whelen.

I had actually planned on using a Whelen finish reamer to short chamber it to .35x57. This is an easy wild cat to make/use and a very good cartridge of itself. You simply shorten a FL Whelen die until the should of and 8x57 case is set back leaving the longer Whelen neck (or so the case neck is the length of the neck on the reamer). However I thought I'g give the .35 Rem a try. I shortened the FL die and set the shoulders back on 20 cases to fit the "short" chamber. It didn't take much and the neck lengthened to fit the chamber neck perfectly. Limited testing up until I left to Iraq more than a year ago convinced me to do more with it in .35 Rem. It feeds longer rifle bullets but the shorter pistol bullets caused some feeding problems. A couple of thin plastic strips as shoulder stops epoxied to the inside of the mag well solved the problem. These hold the cartridges in the magazine to the rear and they then feed fine.

The short chambering is ok but I would like to chamber it to regular .35 Rem. So I'm looking to borrow or rent a finish reamer. If anyone has one please email me.

Overall the rifle, with the 26” barrel, handles and balances really well. I d&t’d the receiver for a Lyman receiver sight. I took a front sight band off a Mauser military barrel which was a perfect fit on the end of the Shilen barrel. I reshaped the top of the base to take a M14 front sight since I’m partial to that sight picture. With the longer barrel I can still get a sharp focus on the front sight these days. So far with cast bullets (several pistol and Lyman’s 359315) It is quite accurate and a joy to shoot.

Larry Gibson

[waksupi]

I have one .358 Win, and getting together parts to build another.
The more I look at the 8X57 case, the more I think they are a kissing cousin, that will do as well in the field, with a well designed bullet. Buit, I will still stick with the .358 win!

[Ed Barrett]

I have a .35 rem 336 and a 357 maximun handi-rifle.

[Lloyd Smale]

35 rem 356 358

[bravokilo]

2 .357 (Martini Cadet & Marlin 94), 2 .35 Rem (336 & 760), 1 .358 (rebored Rem 700), and 1 yet-to-be assembled .35 Whelen. Almost forgot, 1 9X57 Mauser.

BK

[JDL]

Two .358 Winchesters, a model 70 and a BLR.

[waksupi]

Anyone ever necked up the .30-40 Krag, to .35 caliber?

[cabezaverde]

Anyone ever necked up the .30-40 Krag, to .35 caliber?

Made up a dummy round, but never had a rifle chambered in it.

[Bent Ramrod]

I have a Model 95 in .35 Winchester. With the Ideal 358318 HP and a fairly mild smokeless loading, it seems to take a water-filled PET bottle apart as well as the blackpowder .45-70 with the Gould bullet.

I never had to neck up .30-40 brass; always had some Bertram, Bell or Hornady .405 brass to reform.

Kind of odd how the .35 has struggled as a rifle caliber, while it's almost the default pistol caliber.

[danski26]

I just took out my rem model 14 in 35 rem the other day to give it a once over. I killed my first deer with it when I was 12. I love the 35's. I am thinking of a 350 rem mag or 35 whelen project.......maybe next year.

[Blackwater]

My Whelen's the Ackley version. Made on a M-77 Ruger action with tang safety. Made this rifle up for a possible elk hunt where they told me they'd seen bear tracks, though there weren't supposed to be any bears there. 24" Shilen SS #4 contour barrel, and Brown Precision stock. Keep vascillating on which scope to leave on it. I think it's got the 4x Pentax now, but has worn a 2-7x Leupold and a 1.5-5x also. This was my first "custom" gun, and by sheer luck, it came out much better than I'd planned it, actually. Balances really well, and is not too heavy. I've shot up to 40 rds. of heavy 250 gr. loads in it, and the recoil was surprisingly tolerable. Maybe there really IS something about those synthetic stocks "giving" a bit with recoil???

No boolits in it yet, but it's sitting there waiting on me. I've listened intently to Bass when he talks about good things starting to happen in the hunting field when the calibers hit .35 and above. With most of my hunting being pretty close in now, that rifle's just going to HAVE to get a tryout with cast.

[45nut]

uhh,,concentrate,,,357rossi '92,1871 Rem RB in 357max,Rem Model 34 in 35 Whelen,1895 Win 35WCF,358 Win Savage Striker,,pretty near a rifle so I was told.......pretty sure there are more but I got crs somehow.

[NVcurmudgeon]

Ken, "Rem Model 34 in 35 Whelen"? Is that a Model 1917/30 descendant?

[crazy mark]

A SS topper in 357 Max, Rossi SRC 357 Mag, 336 SC 35 Rem and 336A rifle 35 Rem. 14" T/C in 35 Rem isn't long enough for a rifle however. Mark

[PatMarlin]

Good old 1972 Marlin 336 in 35 rem.

Whadya guys think that own the 35 Rem and the .358 Win about the comparison of the 2 cartridges?

I've always wanted a .358, and thought of converting my 336 from time to time. I like the idea of forming brass out of the .308.

[45nut]

Ken, "Rem Model 34 in 35 Whelen"? Is that a Model 1917/30 descendant?
Sho' nuf is. I am a Enfield addict and a smith made this one up special for me,was a 7x57,barrel was a sewer pipe and he built it into a nice rifle for me. Same 'smith that built my 500A2,375 Taylor,416 Rem Mag,30-378,458x2 ,458 Lott,,yup fine rifles. Got a 340 barrel from Buckshot that needs fitting to one of my spare actions still. I keep denying I own a .338,but that 340 will make a liar out of me someday. :lovebooli

[Shepherd2]

Marlin 336 in .35 Remington.

[No_1]

Anyone ever necked up the .30-40 Krag, to .35 caliber?

A fellow on the old board claimed to have a #3 Ruger that came as a 30-40. He said it would not shoot so he had the barrel re-bored to 35. He sent me an article that was titled 35 Krag but from what I remembered (I could be wrong) it was not really based on the 30-40 case. Anyway, he sent a couple of cases with the article. They had very little shoulder which would not matter since it is rimmed. I took a new 30-40 case, lubed it then ran it into a 35 Rem sizing die to see how easy it would be to open the mouth up. It came out ok but would take fire forming to make it right. I was interested because I have a Siamese Mauser Sporter that is chambered in 30-40 with a 2-groove barrel but the 'smith that chambered it got the reamer a little off, cut an oval chamber that leaves the brass a little funny and I hated shooting it when it messed up brass like that. I bought a nice #3 becasue I did not want to get rid of the brass and dies I had (sound familiar?) and was trying to decide what to do with the Siamese. I figured on getting it done to 45-70 but since I like odd stuff I decided to go with a 35-40 Krag but have never gotten that far..

Enough rambling,
Robert

[26Charlie]

Just found this thread so I'll chime in - all these guns shoot cast bullets very well, at velocities as fast as you can get with the somewhat limited case capacities:
Marlin 336C and 336A in .35 Rem.; Remington 81 amd 141 in .35 Rem.; 14" Contender bbl. in .35 Rem.
H&R Topper in .357 Max.; 10" Contender bbl. in .357 Max.
Rossi M92 replica in .357 Mag.; Marlin M1894 in .357 Mag. - gave it to my daughter.

By golly gosh, thats eight of the dang things.

Contenders are pocket rifles, IMHO, not handguns.

[Sky C.]

Browning 71 in .348 & Browing 1895 being converted to .35 Whelan (in process).

[stocker]

35 Whelen on an FN Mauser. 348 on an original 71. Darn , Sky I was hoping you were going to show pictures of the finished 95.

[Bret4207]

35 Whelen on an '03A3. Loves 358318's and the 35 Bator.

[drinks]

Bret;
First I have heard of a .35 bator, when and where was it committed and are there any stray molds around?
Don

[tom barthel]

one nef handi-rifle.

bravokilo, I like your boxer. Got one of those to.

Tom

[bravokilo]

one nef handi-rifle.

bravokilo, I like your boxer. Got one of those to.

Tom
Unfortunately he's not mine. Belongs to my brother, actually. I DO get to visit and sometimes even doggy-sit!! Yeah, he's a big goof!! My bro found out the hard way why they're called Boxers. Caught a paw below the belt!!! Of course while he was on the floor he got slobbered on!! If you're into Boxers you should check out boxerworld.com.

BK

[waksupi]

Talked to my barrel guy this evening. He says he can bore and re-rifle my Krag to .35 for $100. Hmmmm.... I feel something new coming....