How much interest in a MiHec built .41 Hollow point GB?

[Cayoot]

Hey you .41 fans; after seeing the speed and precision that MiHec built the last GB of .45 hollow point moulds, I can't help but have visions in my sleep of a .41 Hollow Point.

I am a big .41 fan, in the traditional .41 Magnum format as well as in the .41 spl.

I'm thinking 200 grain boolit with a hollow point.

There is two questions that I can think of on this project:

1- Is there enough interest in a .41 hollow point to make this happen?

2 - To check or not? I don't think a 200 grain boolit will require so much pressure that we will need to be bothered with a gas check...however there are a lot of folks on this forum with an awlful lot more experience than I have, so I'll wait on that decision to see what everybody else wants.

So what say you guys? Am I the only one who wants a .41 hollow point boolit?

[pelallito]

I am new to the board and was left a little confused. Who or what is MiHec? Is there a thread where i can look at what you mentioned? last GB of .45 hollow point moulds.
I am a 41 fan, so I would consider a mold, once i know what you are discussing.

[dromia]

Look at the stickies at the top of this forum and you'll see Mihec's GB.

Mihec is the board name of the gentleman that makes the moulds.

[pelallito]

Thank you Dromia. After posting my question, I found MiHec in the member list and found the thread that was in front of my eyes, as you mentioned in the sticky area.:confused::oops:
I would be interested. I did not read all 13 pages, but it seemed everybody was happy with his product.
Thanks again,
Fred

[Rick N Bama]

Make it a 210 grainer, no gas check & I'll be in if the funding allows.

Rick

[cavemike]

I'm in.

[Cayoot]

Make it a 210 grainer, no gas check & I'll be in if the funding allows.

Rick

Rick, why do you think the increase in weight to 210 grns would be a good?

At this point, I'm open to most sensible and useful suggestions, but I would like to know what the advantage is.

My idea of the 200 grainer was to allow sufficient speed to allow the best chance for expansion. The more this boolit weighs, the more pressure (and recoil) will have to be involved to get this boolit up to (that) sufficient speed.

So what is the thought behind your comment?

[GLynn41]

What would this bullit look like?

[Heavy lead]

I would be very interested in it if it was a wide meplat boolit at least .400 long nose, preferably no check, I would like to get a single hollow point and a multi cavity solid point. It would be nice if it were similiar in profile to the Lyman 44 devastator mould. Should weight up in solid point I'm hoping at least in the 255 range, and whatever in the hp.
Whatdoyathink!

[azrednek]

I will most likely be in on it for a 41 cal mold. Either 200 or 210 is just fine with me but I prefer a gas check base. How do you 41 lovers feel about a 41 cal Spire point similar to the Lyman 429303.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/dnisbet/AA-spire-A.gif

The round was loaded before I managed to find the proper size nose punch. The tip is much sharper than shown in the picture.

[Rick N Bama]

In my M657 an RCBS 41-210 has been the best shooting boolit I've found. I have a Lee 410-195SWC & that boolit just hasn't preformed as well as the RCBS. Whether or not the weight has anything to do with it, I honestly can't say. I also have a Saeco #411 (230grs) that isn't as accurate either.

The 210gr weight of the RCBS is the only reason I suggested that. I can go with the 200gr if that's what is decided upon, no problem.



Rick




Rick, why do you think the increase in weight to 210 grns would be a good?

At this point, I'm open to most sensible and useful suggestions, but I would like to know what the advantage is.

My idea of the 200 grainer was to allow sufficient speed to allow the best chance for expansion. The more this boolit weighs, the more pressure (and recoil) will have to be involved to get this boolit up to (that) sufficient speed.

So what is the thought behind your comment?

[Cayoot]

I would be very interested in it if it was a wide meplat boolit at least .400 long nose, preferably no check, I would like to get a single hollow point and a multi cavity solid point. It would be nice if it were similiar in profile to the Lyman 44 devastator mould. Should weight up in solid point I'm hoping at least in the 255 range, and whatever in the hp.
Whatdoyathink!

I understand where you are coming from, but this boolit is designed to be more of a defensive tool against 2 legged problems or canines. I think that there has been a plethora of wide meplat heavy .41s (I've got a couple myself).

I worry about the required pressure and recoil to get a heavy .41 up to HP expanding speed.

I had this boolit more in mind for lighter guns, like the S&W Mnt Gun, Taurus Tracker and converted .41 Specials (like my converted 6 shot S&W 686 in .41 Spl).

I've been in communication with 45 2.1, and he has a couple designs that proved successful in the .40 cal, so we are thinking of supersizing them and seeing what you guys think.

[JudgeBAC]

I have the same experience with the .41, i.e. the 210 weight is by far the most accurate boolit in my M57 Smith and 3 screw Ruger 4 5/8".

The 210 gr. RCBS does fine without a gas check. If you go with a big hole in the end (very scientific description) like the devestator, I don't see the need for a gas check.

Cayoot, for a big meplat boolit try the Lyman 410427, this is a hollow base WC that weighs about 217 grs. I have shot it over 1000fps with no problems. I would think at close range it would be a dandy defensive boolit and you don't have to worry about expansion.

At any rate, I would probably be in for about any design HP for the .41 since I don't have one.

[Cayoot]

I will most likely be in on it for a 41 cal mold. Either 200 or 210 is just fine with me but I prefer a gas check base. How do you 41 lovers feel about a 41 cal Spire point similar to the Lyman 429303.


The round was loaded before I managed to find the proper size nose punch. The tip is much sharper than shown in the picture.

I'd be interested in that, but I'd really rather that you post that in a seperate thread.

This thread is only about the Hollow Point .41.

[Cayoot]

In my M657 an RCBS 41-210 has been the best shooting boolit I've found. I have a Lee 410-195SWC & that boolit just hasn't preformed as well as the RCBS. Whether or not the weight has anything to do with it, I honestly can't say. I also have a Saeco #411 (230grs) that isn't as accurate either.

The 210gr weight of the RCBS is the only reason I suggested that. I can go with the 200gr if that's what is decided upon, no problem.
Rick

After reading your reply and that of JudgeBAC, I think you fellas have a very good point.

I've asked 45 2.1 to draw up a 210 grain boolit with a crimp groove and no gas check, then alter it with a hollow point and post it here.

As I said before, he has a hollow pointed round nose that has proven successful in the past.

The reason I'm considering a round nose HP instead of the SWC HP is that the tapering of the RN at the nose serves to further move the center of gravity to the back of the boolit. It has been my understanding that moving it further back stabilizes the boolit more.

[45 2.1]

Something to look at. It weighs 196.75 gr. as cast. It would weigh 211.5 gr. if it were a solid. 0.411" diameter and has a meplat to crimp groove length of 0.385". 60% of the boolit length is bearing surface, from just behind the hollow point cavity to the base. With this you don't need full magnum velocities to get expansion and killing power.

[mtgrs737]

I like the design in post 16, I would rather it be 210 - 220grs. though. I would like a little more meat in each of the bands and I am assuming that the portion just ahead of the crimp groove is full dia. like the dirving bands. I would like a minimum diameter of .413". Depending on the price I would be in for one if funds allow.

[Clyde]

I am interested and would prefer a plain base.

[Cayoot]

I like the design in post 16, I would rather it be 210 - 220grs. though. I would like a little more meat in each of the bands and I am assuming that the portion just ahead of the crimp groove is full dia. like the dirving bands. I would like a minimum diameter of .413". Depending on the price I would be in for one if funds allow.

Yes, the area just north of the crimp groove is full diameter.

As far as increasing the specs to an as cast diameter to .412 or .413, this boolit is designed to be used with soft alloy (after all...we want the hp to expand). Thus it will be easy to bump up a bit if needed.

Also, keep in mind that most moulds tend to come out just a tad oversized from the maker, even MiHec (see his thread).

So this is looking pretty good to me..I'll give it a couple of days to get further thoughts, then I'll probably take it to a new thread (if it appears that we have enough interest).

[GLynn41]

Is the thinking self defense or hunting-- reloads can get one in trouble if the critter is two legged-(the law in Tn does preclude but they can look bad in court so I have been told by attorneys)- and a different kind of trouble with say pig or bear- if deerish type hunting I am not again 200gr I'd guess I'd prefer a little more around 220 @1200
-- plain base is fine dia .412 good too-- I already make 230 Soft points 410459--either way this could be interesting

[Cayoot]

GLynn41, that claim (of legal issues connected with handloads) has been around for quite a long time, but has never been substainated.

But more to the point, this thread is for people who might be interested in a .41 cal hollow point mould. It is not about moral/legal ramafications.

If you want to post your comments on why someone should not have a hollow point cast boolit or to otherwise disuade people from being a part of a group buy, please start your own thread.

Don't try to ruin another person's gb idea by posting such statements in their thread.

[Lloyd Smale]

id be in if it were a gas check mold. A gas check would insure you could shoot it at high enough velocity to get expansion without problems with leading. A shrunk down copy of the lyman devestator would be ideal in my opinion. that bullet shoots exceptionaly well and opens up well too.

[putteral]

I agree with you Cayoot. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6! I wish I could a .41 hollow point. Can't wait to try the .45 version.

[Cayoot]

As always Lloyd, your comments make alot of sense and are very thought provoking.

Thanks for the input putteral.

[McKee Boykin]

I'm in, so what kind of $ are we talkin'?

[GLynn41]

My apology-- I had no intent to ruin anything for any one- it never occurred to me that my comments be a bother or change any ones mind-- I was going to join in but- I will go away quietly--good luck on your group buy

[Cayoot]

My apology-- I had no intent to ruin anything for any one- it never occurred to me that my comments be a bother or change any ones mind-- I was going to join in but- I will go away quietly--good luck on your group buy

Thanks Glynn41, I appreciate your apology...and where you are coming from.

We're all in this together.

Bary

[Cayoot]

I'm in, so what kind of $ are we talkin'?
McKee Boykin, I get the impression that the cost is somewhat determined by the number of moulds ordered. As soon as I can get an idea on the cost, I'll post it here and in a new thread that will announce taking orders.

[bcarver]

I like it but only in plain base.

[45 2.1]

A gas check would insure you could shoot it at high enough velocity to get expansion without problems with leading.

Some folks don't shoot hard alloys like you Lloyd........:wink: I' ve shot a truck load of deer out of a S&W 41 Mag mountain gun with stuff just like whats drawn. If it didn't work, I wouldn't post it. :mrgreen:

[azrednek]

Cayoot, if you're going to chastise posters in an attempt to censor what they post. I suggest next time you merely open a thread you advise anybody that might respond that you expect all responses to fit into parameters you've designed. If you don't care to read what I've posted you can use the ignore user feature but please don't tell me what I can or can not say.

[mtgrs737]

I guess I forgot to say in my #17 post that I would want the plain base boolit instead of the gas checked style. I'm just too cheap to buy them for anything but rifle boolits.

[Mohillbilly]

I'm in I have a 6 1/2, 4 5/8 new model blkhwk, and a marlin fg and this is bound to fit one of them..

[MiHec]

Read this

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?p=535405#post535405

[McKee Boykin]

Is there a final design or are there several designs to be had?

[RGS]

This is interesting. I'd like to see what the mold looks like. Also how many holes will it have? Lee handles work okay?

Rick

[MiHec]

Yes - this will fit Lee 6 cavity handle

Otherwise keep tracking this post

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...405#post535405

Miha

[Lloyd Smale]

his 45acp molds are so nice that ill take a 41 plain based or gas checked! dont hesitate worrying about quality here guys.

[Cayoot]

I'm sorry that I've been off the site for the past few days. I'm a bean counter by vocation and this has been a really busy time.

However, our mould manufacturer of choice (MiHec) has quoted me a cost of $85 for a single cav hollow point mould. We would need a minimum of 20 moulds.

Let me say this...I just received my first mould from MiHec in the mail today. It is a .45 HP and all I can say is WOW!!!! I'm loving this!

The quality of workmanship and the very short turn around time makes $85 (IMO) a very fair price!

I think we will be going with the plain base design as that is what most folks are asking for.

Saturday I'm hoping to have the time to come on and start an new thread to start the "buyers list".

Thanks for all the feed back guys.

[arcticbreeze]

I'm sorry that I've been off the site for the past few days. I'm a bean counter by vocation and this has been a really busy time.

However, our mould manufacturer of choice (MiHec) has quoted me a cost of $85 for a single cav hollow point mould. We would need a minimum of 20 moulds.

Let me say this...I just received my first mould from MiHec in the mail today. It is a .45 HP and all I can say is WOW!!!! I'm loving this!

The quality of workmanship and the very short turn around time makes $85 (IMO) a very fair price!

I think we will be going with the plain base design as that is what most folks are asking for.

Saturday I'm hoping to have the time to come on and start an new thread to start the "buyers list".

Thanks for all the feed back guys.

I will 2nd that. I will be purchasing every caliber I can use (maybe a few I can't). You can see my comments here

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=46544&page=15

[RJM52]

45 2.1...your design looks much like an old Lyman mold that I used to cast .41s for back in the 1970s. Will have to see if I can find the number but it was a Cowboy type RN FP bullet. It was also a plain base design.

As to that Spire Point bullet...I would love one. A friend who used to be Secretary of the Cast Bullet Association, Vern Dual of Dallas, had one of those .44 molds that had been damaged. He milled off the base so it threw a 170 grain flat base bullet and cast out of Linenotype metal would run 1700 fps with no leading...I may still have some around here...

Bob

[JudgeBAC]

Is this group buy a go or not?

[MiHec]

Is this group buy a go or not?

As I'm aware it is a go

Miha

[Lloyd Smale]

not to be critical but after casting with your 45 mold for a day it would be nice if you put a screw in it to lock the spruce plate hold down bolt simular to what other molds have. It is constantly loosening.

[MiHec]

not to be critical but after casting with your 45 mold for a day it would be nice if you put a screw in it to lock the spruce plate hold down bolt simular to what other molds have. It is constantly loosening.

I will consider that

Anyone else experience that?

[MiHec]

Done!

Additional screw to secure.

[joey02g]

I'm in on this one!

[Mohillbilly]

Me Too

[45 2.1]

I'm having computer mouse problems, will have to buy a new one as this one barely works. I will send Mihec some drawings to look at as soon as I get this problem fixed and have time to do that.

[luv44mag]

sounds interesting..... I am thinking I need one too. have you started the other thread yet?

Is this mold also used to cast solids... can the center cavity thingie be turned around to make a flat nose?..Sorry I've never cast with a hollow point and trying to figure out is this mould a Cramer-style .....or does it use an awl type center ....which will this be?

[Triggerhappy]

MiHec,

Yep, I had the same problem with the sprue pivot screw loosening up. Otherwise it was simple to cast with.

[Mohillbilly]

Bump, is this a go yet ?

[Lloyd Smale]

perfect!Done!

Additional screw to secure.

[Mohillbilly]

I hope these mods (lock screw, steel spru plate, steelscrew block reinforcment for spru cutter handel) are standard on all mihecs goods .....

[Hackleback]

I am interested in this mould as well, but it would be a bit before I can scratch up the funds. Currently I have too many irons in the fire. If we are looking at a quick turnaround on this, sadly I would have to bow out. If it is going to be a couple of months, I could swing it.

[MiHec]

I hope these mods (lock screw, steel spru plate, steelscrew block reinforcment for spru cutter handel) are standard on all mihecs goods .....

Where design allows that - yes it will be standard

Miha

[McKee Boykin]

Is this one ready to start yet? I just sent an email for the 453 Cramer and would like to get this one at the same time.

[Boomer Mikey]

I would like to see this design in a two cavity cramer style mold at 0.413" diameter.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6297&d=1202630316
It weighs 225 grains with a 0.400" long nose and feeds fine in the lever guns. With a hollow point it might weigh??? 200-210 grains? This is the scaled down 41 magnum version of the Lyman 429640 44 devastator design that 45 2.1 designed for our 413640 group buy; it's an outstanding bullet.

It would also be wonderful to make the hollow point pins reversible to produce flat nose or hollow point bullets from the same mold.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4926&d=1190450525 http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12700&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1238922195

MiHec is making his 0.453 cramer style molds this way, maybe he can do the same with this design.

my 2 cents,

Boomer :Fire:

[bgokk]

I am interested in a 2 cavity Cramer style both hollow points. I like the design from 45 2.1 post #16. PB only I don't want to have to buy gas checks. I'm in for 1.

[warriorsociologist]

!!! Wow - BoomerMikey - that's what I'm talking about (post #58)!
I'd be in for a PB HP mould like that.

[MiHec]

It's possible to make that

[smilie=1:

[Heavy lead]

!!! Wow - BoomerMikey - that's what I'm talking about (post #58)!
I'd be in for a PB HP mould like that.

Me too.

[Tristan]

I would like to see this design in a two cavity cramer style mold at 0.413" diameter.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6297&d=1202630316
It weighs 225 grains with a 0.400" long nose and feeds fine in the lever guns. With a hollow point it might weigh??? 200-210 grains? This is the scaled down 41 magnum version of the Lyman 429640 44 devastator design that 45 2.1 designed for our 413640 group buy; it's an outstanding bullet.

It would also be wonderful to make the hollow point pins reversible to produce flat nose or hollow point bullets from the same mold.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4926&d=1190450525 http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12700&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1238922195

MiHec is making his 0.453 cramer style molds this way, maybe he can do the same with this design.

my 2 cents,

Boomer :Fire:

Sorry to quote a long post, but I definitely would be in for one of these...

[Boomer Mikey]

IMO this is the only 41 Magnum bullet mold you need. I've been shooting the 225 grain bullet with a full case of 296 and full power loads of 2400 as well as a 6.5 grain load of TiteGroup and the bullet shoots as good as any. No need for a gas check... no leading at 1700 fps in my Marlin 1894 using LBT Blue.

The ability to cast 200 and 225 grain bullets from a $100 mold makes it a bargan indeed.

Boomer :Fire:

[Dennis Eugene]

even I might be able to swing the funds for one like that Dennis

[MiHec]

Do we go wit this design then?

It's fine with me

[Boomer Mikey]

This is Cayoot's thread and his baby, I don't want to step on any toes here... if he likes the idea and Bob (45 2.1) likes the idea (his design) we can go ahead.

I've asked 45 2.1 if we can use the design, and if he will supply the new design drawing with a cavity to produce 200 grain bullets.

Boomer :Fire:

[Thaine]

You can count me infor one of these, my only 41 mold is a DC 410610 and this 200HP/225FP would bracket it nicely.

Thaine

[GLynn41]

Me two--+ the mo can in the po this afternoon -- I would like this one -- and this would my first group buy mold

[azrednek]

Is this group buy on and has a design been adopted?? I really like the Cramer style but I prefer a gas check base. Is it possible the group buy could be for both plain and gas check base??

[Heavy lead]

All in on this one regardless of gas check or not. 41 moulds are too darn hard to come buy to worry about whether to check or not. Mine don't seem to lead now with a plain base.
I like the design.

[Heavy lead]

Me two--+ the mo can in the po this afternoon -- I would like this one -- and this would my first group buy mold

Mihec's 45 group buy was my first one, I've never had the patients for the 1 year Lee wait, but you will not be disappointed in Mihec's work.

[McKee Boykin]

I'm in on this one!

[Boomer Mikey]

Is this group buy on and has a design been adopted?? I really like the Cramer style but I prefer a gas check base. Is it possible the group buy could be for both plain and gas check base??

This one would be a plain base.

45 2.1 is working on the design drawing and will post an image when it's done.

0.413" diameter is necessary for the Marlin 1894FG's. The orignal 413640's size down to 0.411" easily without distortion.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8982&d=1223070106

BTW a Lyman 429 nosepunch fits the nose perfectly.


Boomer :Fire:

[Mack Heath]

Times are real tight right now, but you could count me in for this one. Wouldn't miss out on this.

[McKee Boykin]

The suspense on this is killing me. I want, no need a mold!

[Corky]

I would like to get in on this one also.

Jeff

[azrednek]

This one would be a plain base.

45 2.1 is working on the design drawing and will post an image when it's done.

Boomer :Fire:

Thanks!! I appreciate you letting me know. If you or another poster following this thread don't mind a couple more questions. Is this group buy going to be for the Cramer style as pictured earlier in this thread? If not is the buy going to be for a flat or hollow point nose? Can you give me an estimate of the boolit's weight?

I really like to Cramer style. I have never used one or did I even know they existed but I'm kind of excited about trying one. I prefer a gas check base but will most likely go with what ever design is chosen. I have numerous 44 and 45 molds but only have a couple I'm currently using for 41 mag. I'm always open to trying something else. Nice thing about bullet molds, if one needs to part with it, be it because the gun has been sold, prefers another or just gets out of the casting hobby. It is easy to recoup the cost as the price of used molds really hold their value and if one gets lucky on Ebay they might get more than they originally paid.

[Boomer Mikey]

[QUOTE=azrednek;550015]Thanks!! I appreciate you letting me know. If you or another poster following this thread don't mind a couple more questions. Is this group buy going to be for the Cramer style as pictured earlier in this thread? If not is the buy going to be for a flat or hollow point nose? Can you give me an estimate of the boolit's weight? QUOTE]

OK,

Look at post 63 above... this is for a Cramer style, brass, 2 cavity mold with reversible pins to produce a 0.413 diameter plain base 225 grain flat nose and/or a 200-210 grain hollow point bullets for the 41 Magnum. The flat nose solid bullet will look like the bullets in post 74 and the hollow points will look the same with a cavity similar to the hollow point bullet in post 63. The weight is a guesstimate; our bullet designer (45 2.1) will post a sketch of the final design and the particulars when he finishes the drawing in this thread. After all of that is finalized; MiHec will open a new thread announcing the group buy, how to purchase the mold, mold options, price, and the estimated delivery date.

Boomer :Fire:

[GLynn41]

Boomer Mikey thanks for the info--aka 411-- even 411 is good for a .41

[Boomer Mikey]

Boomer Mikey thanks for the info--aka 411-- even 411 is good for a .41

Yes,

A 0.411" bullet is good for many 41's but not the Marlin 1894FG Lever Gun. You can size a 0.413" bullet down to 0.411" or 0.412" but it's hard to make a 0.411" bullet fit a rifle that needs a 0.413" bullet.

Boomer :Fire:

[azrednek]

THX!! Boomer

[warriorsociologist]

Dang...this is a tough one. I have the last GB 413640 mould and I had thought of hollow-pointing a few of those bullets for the times I'd want some HPs....but this one looks just about perfect (maybe even worth losing the 6-cav. in favor of it).

Hmmm.....

[GLynn41]

it was a joke:-D-- I hope to get a .41 Marlin

[45 2.1]

Something to look at:
0.413" diameter, 200 gr. HP, 225 gr. Solid

[mtgrs737]

I could wrap some brass around one of those!

Where do I sign up?

[Boomer Mikey]

Something to look at:
0.413" diameter, 200 gr. HP, 225 gr. Solid

Perfect!

Thanks 45 2.1!

As far as I'm concerned this is a go...


Boomer :Fire:

[GLynn41]

good -now what

[MiHec]

Now if we all agree it's a go.......

But I will start collecting orders after 1.May if it is ok with you boys

Stay tuned....


P.s.

I have a fair this week (all week - all day) - so i'm not at home


Regards

[cavemike]

That works for me Miha. The May 1 date will give me time to scrounge up some money after getting one of your .45 Cramer moulds


Mike

[GregP42]

Now if we all agree it's a go.......

But I will start collecting orders after 1.May if it is ok with you boys

Stay tuned....


P.s.

I have a fair this week (all week - all day) - so i'm not at home


Regards


How long do you think this will run? I am moving to a different state right now and starting a new job, but I think that one really needs to be in my collection!

Greg

[MiHec]

How long do you think this will run? I am moving to a different state right now and starting a new job, but I think that one really needs to be in my collection!

Greg

Hmmm...

Now first i must finish .45 and HG#68 and get payed - so i will have money for next run. (this should be done in two weeks)

I'm counting 5-6 weeks to finished molds (but this is not 100%)

Hope it's ok with you boys


Miha

[Tomhorn]

I would prefer a gas check version, but either way I am in.

[GLynn41]

all sounds very good so far -- a lot of the time
I shoot GC 255 mold with out the GC and it does well-- this one should do just just fine

[Mohillbilly]

So little time, so many nice things to choose from, .....I'll just get one of each!!!

[hamour]

I am new to the board, obviously this would be my first participation in a group buy. .

Do I just indicate a desire to buy one of these reversable pin molds at this time? If so you can count me in.

From my reading it seems MiHec will post on or about May 1st the actual info on where and when to send payment, to actually be a part of the buy.

Any way great site fellows.

[Dennis Eugene]

Hamour, Welcome home, and yep you got it I'm paceing the floor untill the 1st or there abouts. Dennis

[Springfield]

The way it has worked in the past is, when we all decide on a design, which it looks like we have, we wait for Mihec to say he is ready to take orders. You send him an e-mail commiting yourself to a mould. When he gets enough takers he declares a cut-off date, and starts making the moulds. When he gets them all done you Paypal him the money, and he ships. Unlike LEE where they have our money forever before they make the moulds.

[RGS]

Only problem, I don't do Paypal. Cashier's check will have to do.

Rick

[Springfield]

He may not take it as he is in Slovenia. Would you take a Slovenian Cashier's check? Paypal is much easier and safer, but you two will have to work it out. Do you not do Paypal or just don't have an account? If the latter maybe somebody else could buy your mould for you via Paypal and you get it from them.

[Heavy lead]

I know some of you don't like paypal, but Mihec using PayPal will take all the accounting grief right out of group buys.
Gotta be a pain for you honcho's.

[RGS]

Slovenia? That's news to me. I suppose I'd take a Slovenian cashiers check if my bank could turn it into American money. I've never thought about it. Why, is Slovenia going broke too?

As for paypal I think I tried to open an account a few years ago but couldn't quite manage it. Don't remember why at the moment. Its never been a problem as I never was much of an ebay shopper.

Maybe I'll sit this one out. I'm sure it will be a nice mold and all, but I'm happy with the molds I have.

Rick

[Springfield]

I use Paypal all the time, and 90% of the transaction have nothing to do with e-bay. You might want to try again. Money Orders are counterfeited all the time, even USPS Money Orders. At least with Paypal, you know if you really got the money.

[GLynn41]

may 1 is this going to go any where?

[bgokk]

may 1 is this going to go any where?

I'm ready to get in this GB.:drinks:

[MiHec]

Hi

Yes we are moving....

First i must finish HG68 and .45 hp

As we speak I'm trying to find additional ways to pay me (paypal is pain for me right now)

Stay tuned

Miha

[GLynn41]

no problem --sorry you have hassles-- life is too short for many of those hope you get it worked out

[azrednek]

Hi

Yes we are moving....

First i must finish HG68 and .45 hp

As we speak I'm trying to find additional ways to pay me (paypal is pain for me right now)

Stay tuned

Miha

Miha how about US Post Office International Money orders?? You might have to check with the post office or bank in your country to see if you can cash them there. I used to sell things on Ebay to foreign buyers and I never had any trouble with the international money orders. The international money orders are more expensive than the regualr type but they can be purchased at any US Post Office.

[azrednek]

Miha, I can send you an international money order and you can see if your post ofice or bank will accept them. I used to get them from Japan, Briton and Germany and I never had any trouble cashing them either at the bank or Post Office.

[Springfield]

I know my bank(Citibank) wouldn't accept a Canadian MO, but the Post Offfice gladly took it. I assume it would be the same for other countries, so worth checking into.

[Lloyd Smale]

cancel mine here id rather the gas checked vesion on the other post.

[MiHec]

I'm thinking to open Us Account for non residents at etrade.com

What do you think about that? Any experience??

About checks and money orders - they took to long in Slovenia

Time here means more molds [smilie=1:

[cavemike]

Miha,

Are you still open to using Western Union for payment?
I don't know if you have offices in Slovenia, but here (in the USA) it is as easy as stopping at the Post Office.

I do not know how much fees are, but for the convienance it works for me

Mike

[Heavy lead]

MiHec,
Are you not going to be accepting paypal anymore? Sort of sounding that way. Or am I getting crossways in another parallel discussion?

[cavemike]

When the group buy was opened I expressed my dislike for Paypal.

I suggested to Miha the possibility of using Western Union as an alternative.

He was open to the suggestion but asked that I not say anything about it.

Since Miha is talking about alternatives, I thought it would be ok to mention WU .

[Springfield]

Never used Western Union, but there is no way that going to a WU office to get a Money Order is more convenient then using Paypal from the convenience of my home. So Miha, what exactly is the problem with Paypal?

[McKee Boykin]

Yep, nearest WU has to be over an hour away from me!

[MiHec]

Hi

I'm not thinking about dropping paypal. I'm just looking for alternatives
My problem with Paypal is withdrawing money to my account. It's taking me too long
(First they withdraw to my visa and later on my bank. Time for this is month and a half)

If I have US account there is no problem with withdraw and later on I can wire transfer to my bank.

It's nothing to worry - I just want to optimize process

[cajun shooter]

Go to a WU and see what the fees are!! You will get sticker shock. Springfield is correct as far as Pay Pal goes. It's very easy for a buyer to use. The problem that most sellers have is the fees that they charge them. I myself have always been willing to pay the fee for the buyer. Like I told one seller; it's still cheaper for me to give you a extra 3-$4 than it is for me to drive to the local PO, pay for a MO and Confirmation and then pay postage to send it. Some people that sell still demand MO and the buyer be damed.

[GLynn41]

i too do not mind Paypal--but mo are fine too as my bank gives them to us at no extra charge

[MiHec]

Go to a WU and see what the fees are!! You will get sticker shock. Springfield is correct as far as Pay Pal goes. It's very easy for a buyer to use. The problem that most sellers have is the fees that they charge them. I myself have always been willing to pay the fee for the buyer. Like I told one seller; it's still cheaper for me to give you a extra 3-$4 than it is for me to drive to the local PO, pay for a MO and Confirmation and then pay postage to send it. Some people that sell still demand MO and the buyer be damed.

Yes WU fees will kill you ;)

[warriorsociologist]

Ok, so this mould will be a 2-banger with reversable pins - right?
Very tempting.....

[only1asterisk]

If you’re serious about getting one of these molds, please go to the poll thread and choose the boolit designs that interest you. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=53235

[azrednek]

Has anybody come up with a drawing for this group buy??

[mag44uk]

Just a suggestion.
Why dont you take a look at NOCHEX as an easy alternative.
I did sign up for this many years ago but never used it.
HTH
Tony

[dutch41]

Is there any option other than than paypal available? I'm interested in one, but don't do paypal.

Thanks.

[mtgrs737]

bump to keep this up closer to the top! I like the style of this mould and would like to see it built soon. How about an update?

[alamogunr]

I too hope this is a go. I don't really need another .41 mold much less a hollow point but I do want at least one example of the Cramer type mold. It would be fun to shoot in either the S&W 657 or the stainless Bisley .41 Mag.

John
W.TN

[45 2.1]

Has anybody come up with a drawing for this group buy??

Post #85

[azrednek]

Post #85

Don't know how I missed it, thanks for the assistance.

[dutch41]

Would it be possible to receive an extra set of reversible pins for the mold. Say something that has 4 - 6 flats on them; or extra blanks that could be modified to suit the owner?

Thanks.

[mtgrs737]

Any Idea when this one kicks off? I could use one.

[ddixie884]

I really would like to have one of these!

[azrednek]

Any Idea when this one kicks off? I could use one.

Is anybody here working on or will make the a drawing for Miha to build the mold??

[45 2.1]

Is anybody here working on or will make the a drawing for Miha to build the mold??

Yes......... The details are all ready when MiHec wants it.

[bgokk]

I am aware that Mihec is a busy man and I am still looking forward to the forty five Cramer mold.:-D

He has a couple of others ahead of the 41 Cramer. I for one do not mind waiting for a MiHec mold.

I do not have a MiHec mold yet, but after seeing the praise bestowed on his molds by those on this site. I can wait for this to happen.:Fire:

[mtgrs737]

I hope he gets to this one soon! It looks like a mighty fine boolit!

[azrednek]

Yes......... The details are all ready when MiHec wants it.

THX!! 45 2.1!!

Like many other I'm anxiously awaiting and really looking forward to my first Miha mold.

[hamour]

Since we are talking about a "Brass" mold, are there any special techniques with brass?

Any info would be apreciated.

Hank

[mtgrs737]

Since we are talking about a "Brass" mold, are there any special techniques with brass?

Any info would be apreciated.

Hank

ditto: Me too!

[GLynn41]

I have a brass Mountain Mold-- they warm up a little slower than aluminum molds- but they also cool down slower also-- mine will cast wonderfully- it is almost rare to cast a bad boolit -- they are heavier though -- do not much else to tell you -- I use a dipper and I can pour- I can hold close and let it run in or hold the mouth of the dipper against spure plate -- it all works well

[Blammer]

brass moulds, clean them well, then heat and cast good boolits from the git go! :)

[mtgrs737]

Bump to keep this closer to the top, and forefront of our minds. I hope we get to this soon.

[bgokk]

I have a question. How come the MiHec .41 gas check is a Sticky? It started about 1 month after this one and was actually a spinoff from this thread

[mtgrs737]

That's a good question!

[Bodydoc447]

When and where are we going to send payments? I'd like to get in on this one but I am unclear on the when and where to send my money. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Doc

[mag44uk]

I do believe this mould is in the holding pen at the moment!

Tony

[bgokk]

When and where are we going to send payments? I'd like to get in on this one but I am unclear on the when and where to send my money. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Doc

You will receive a PM from MiHec or an email with payment details. Once this one is in the works.

I hope it's soon.:)

[MiHec]

In a day or two

But now for 100%

you will be ordering on my web page

[azrednek]

In a day or two

But now for 100%

you will be ordering on my web page

Miha, do you want to take orders for the gas check base mold at the same time??

[azrednek]

I have a question. How come the MiHec .41 gas check is a Sticky? It started about 1 month after this one and was actually a spinoff from this thread

Did you contact a moderator and ask him to sticky this thread?

[dutch41]

Miha

Have you came up with a optional way of sending money for those of us who don't do paypal?

Thanks.

[MiHec]

Miha

Have you came up with a optional way of sending money for those of us who don't do paypal?

Thanks.

Not really :???:

Via pay pal you can pay with e-check or with credit card and don't need to be a member



You can send me money via Western Union - but for sending 100$ to me you will pay 115$ :???::???::???:



P.s. I just received Drawings from 45 2.1

[dutch41]

Is this the final drawing? And if so, please post it.

I will look into paying with a credit card thru paypal ( any and all help would be appreciated ).

Is there any extra fee's to pay this way?

Thanks.

[45 2.1]

Is this the final drawing? And if so, please post it.

Post#85

[MiHec]

Is this the final drawing? And if so, please post it.

I will look into paying with a credit card thru paypal ( any and all help would be appreciated ).

Is there any extra fee's to pay this way?

Thanks.

No extra fees

[Heavy lead]

Any closer, I want a plain base and the gas check version. And I just bought another 657 guys, I need boolits, at least 41 boolits. Ugh.

[MiHec]

Link to order page

Link (http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php?pr=41HP_order&nosessionkill=1)

[azrednek]

I took the liberty of posting here to get this thread up near the top. Miha is ready to start taking orders for both the plain and gas check base 41. Use the link from the previous post and get your's ordered asap. The sooner we get our orders in the sooner we get our molds.

[alamogunr]

OK! I got mine ordered.

John
W.TN

[Heavy lead]

Got both ordered.

[skeet028]

I like the fact you can reverse and cast a solid point bullet too

[Groo]

Groo here
MiHec I would like a pb 41 bullet mold.
on your sight I loged in as Groo01
That works on other sights but here I am Groo.
Trying to wait I just got a marlin 1894FG ...
Thanks to you and others here!!!!

[dutch41]

Just curious how to order extra hollow point pins?

I was thinking about a 4 - 5 sided pin.

Thanks.