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delmar
03-23-2009, 05:56 PM
I read somewhere that shooting a few zinc bullets through your gun will clean the lead out of the barrel. Does anyone know if this is true? How much of a pain is casting zinc?

Leftoverdj
03-23-2009, 06:09 PM
Casting zinc is a terrible pain, not only to do, but casters who use range scrap. Your zinc bullets contaminate their casting material. Please do not do it.

delmar
03-23-2009, 06:20 PM
That someone might dig it of of a hill and try to recycle it, seems like a pretty week reason not to try it, if it is otherwise practical.

docone31
03-23-2009, 06:23 PM
I use a large amount of zinc in my melt. I also paper patch.
The round corners on the lube lands are not an issue, my sizing die takes them out. At our range we are not allowed to berm mine. They have a contractor who pays to mine our berms, and redo the range every other year.
Zinc needs lots of heat. It clogs bottom pour spouts. It is miserable stuff to cast with. With paper however, it works well for me. I only target shoot and I have not yet recovered a fired casting. They powder when they hit the range. I would not use these as an hunting round.
When I am done firing only castings, I do fire a few rounds of jacketeds through my firearm.
So far, no issues with leading.

leadman
03-23-2009, 08:42 PM
I read an article in an old book about using zinc for casting. Pretty much what others have said about contamination. That said, the article stated zinc needs no lube and will cast a bullet much lighter than the lead slug. IIRC a 158 gr. mold cast about a 90 or 100 grain slug.
The article also said the zinc bullets are not good for longer ranges because of the lighter weight.

454PB
03-23-2009, 09:29 PM
Firing a couple of gas checked cast boolits clears all visible leading, and is less hassle than dealing with zinc.

delmar
03-26-2009, 05:49 PM
I use a large amount of zinc in my melt. I also paper patch.
The round corners on the lube lands are not an issue, my sizing die takes them out. At our range we are not allowed to berm mine. They have a contractor who pays to mine our berms, and redo the range every other year.
Zinc needs lots of heat. It clogs bottom pour spouts. It is miserable stuff to cast with. With paper however, it works well for me. I only target shoot and I have not yet recovered a fired casting. They powder when they hit the range. I would not use these as an hunting round.
When I am done firing only castings, I do fire a few rounds of jacketeds through my firearm.
So far, no issues with leading.

I read that if I wanted to cast with zinc, it would help to enlarge the hole in the mold. What else makes casting with zinc a pain?

Also I don't understand why paper patching is advantageous for zinc bullets?

sheepdog
03-27-2009, 11:11 AM
Not sure at yours but at my range shooting zinc will get you the boot.

1z-bar
03-27-2009, 11:22 AM
I've seen a few old boolet molds that were made to put a zinc washer in the back of the boolet to use as a wipe. :neutral:

odoh
03-27-2009, 11:41 AM
One of our club members used cast zinc in his 50BMG rifle. Picked up a few of those nuggets from the berm but wasn't usable to me.

StarMetal
03-27-2009, 11:52 AM
I read that if I wanted to cast with zinc, it would help to enlarge the hole in the mold. What else makes casting with zinc a pain?

Also I don't understand why paper patching is advantageous for zinc bullets?


A few things that makes zinc a pain are for one you have to keep zinc separate from your lead alloy or it will contaminate the lead alloy most likely making it unusable. Another is that cutting the sprue off is pretty hard to do because zinc is really hard..much harder the even linotype. Because of the just mentioned hardness you would destroy an aluminum or brass mould....and be very hard on a cast iron or steel mould. Probably the only practical way to size them would be with a push through die on a reloading press.

Joe

delmar
03-28-2009, 01:31 PM
Casting zinc is a terrible pain, not only to do, but casters who use range scrap. Your zinc bullets contaminate their casting material. Please do not do it.
I have decided that I won't be casting with zinc. At least not any time soon. Thanks for the input everyone!

evan price
11-16-2011, 04:44 AM
One thing about zinc- if you breathe zinc oxide vapors it will make you very sick, we had that problem when welding galvanized metal. You feel like you have a really bad case of flu. It sucks.

MikeS
11-16-2011, 05:16 AM
I wonder if zinc will alloy with tin? I was trying to figure out a good lead free alloy that I could cast for when shooting at indoor ranges that don't allow cast lead boolits. When casting with zinc I guess I would have to stay with iron or steel moulds, I have a couple of Lyman 2 cavity moulds that I was thinking of trying this with, and I also have a bunch of extra sprue plates, as before I sold off most of my Lyman 2 cavity moulds I had changed them all over to using the newer thicker sprue plate, so if I reinstall one of the older thinner sprue plates on the mould, then if the plate gets ruined by casting zinc, it wouldn't really matter. I wonder how much zinc and/or a zinc-tin alloy would shrink? They might come out of the mould under size, and that would make them useless.

x101airborne
11-16-2011, 08:00 AM
I make my offshore fishing weights out of my left over zinc. I heat them in a cast iron pot with a cutting torch, ladle them with an old stainless measuring cup on a stick and cast in a home made mold. I make 10 ounce weights to drop snapper rigs to the bottom. Make dang sure you dont breathe that stuff. Make DANG sure.

williamwaco
11-16-2011, 10:31 AM
Firing a couple of gas checked cast boolits clears all visible leading, and is less hassle than dealing with zinc.




Works for me !

BAGTIC
11-20-2011, 12:26 PM
If you want zinc bullets just for bore cleaning it is not worth the trouble and expense casting your own when they can be bought cheaply enough from ZEE Bullets.